Will Lee have a better year than Pujols?

[Roast]

A couple weeks into the season I made a bet with my moron friend that Pujols would finish with a higher batting average, considering the huge advantage Pujols held over Lee career wise. Of course I didn't forsee Lee staying so hot and now I feel like the moron :oops:

 

Make a bet that the cubs will lose every game from here on out, plz.

[gus_dog]

Here we are, and it has been over a month since my last post on this thread. D. Lee has been tailing off.

 

         G   AB R   H  2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG   
A Pujols 99 375 80 126 24 0 27 79 231 51 40 9 0 .423 .616 .336 
D Lee    98 373 81 137 31 2 32 82 268 51 65 12 2 .445 .718 .367 

 

Judge for yourself where they stand right now.

 

Look at the walks...., very interesting

[imb]

If Lee turned the 25 extra K's he has into balls in play, about 9 of them would fall in for hits (theoretically speaking, anyway). This would make his average .391, instead of .367.

[SouthSideRyan]

If Lee turned the 25 extra K's he has into balls in play, about 9 of them would fall in for hits (theoretically speaking, anyway). This would make his average .391, instead of .367.

 

That's Brenly-speak IMB, I didn't expect that from you.

[Sammy Who]

2 months left and D-Lee is still en flambo Pujols has some nagging foot and shoulder injuries, and w/ the Cards running away w/ the division, LaRussa will rest him down the strecth to keep him fresh for the post-season.

[gus_dog]

Here's the latest. I would call this a dead heat.

 

        G   AB   R  H     2B  3B HR   RBI   TB   BB  SO SB   CS   OBP   SLG   AVG
Pujols 130  485 105 162  31   1  35   99  300   74  52 11   2   0.428  0.619  0.334
Lee    127  481 103 168  42   2  39   94  331   69  82 15   3   0.432  0.688  0.349

[Tim]

Here's the latest. I would call this a dead heat.

 

        G   AB   R  H     2B  3B HR   RBI   TB   BB  SO SB   CS   OBP   SLG   AVG
Pujols 130  485 105 162  31   1  35   99  300   74  52 11   2   0.428  0.619  0.334
Lee    127  481 103 168  42   2  39   94  331   69  82 15   3   0.432  0.688  0.349

69 points of slugging is quite a difference between the two. Ignoring team-reliant stats (RBI), Lee has more hits, more doubles, more triples, more HR, more TB. Add in the fact that he's a better defender and I think it's easy to say that Lee has clearly been the better player up to this point in 2005.

 

However, Pujols will get the MVP because:

 

1) He's earned it in past years by being the best non-Bonds player on the planet

2) He's playing for a winning team

[goonys evil twin]

However, Pujols will get the MVP because:

 

1) He's earned it in past years by being the best non-Bonds player on the planet

 

I hate that silly line of reasoning. Tim Krzikstan said something to the effect of "Pujols has to win the MVP this year because he didn't the past couple years." That's as insane as Joe Morgan saying Roger Clemens has pitched better than anybody in baseball but he shouldn't win the Cy because his teammates don't score enough runs for him. It's not a lifetime achievement award. If you want to give it to Pujols you are more than justified in doing so, but don't make up silly stuff like that voters.

[gus_dog]

However, Pujols will get the MVP because:

 

1) He's earned it in past years by being the best non-Bonds player on the planet

 

I hate that silly line of reasoning. Tim Krzikstan said something to the effect of "Pujols has to win the MVP this year because he didn't the past couple years." That's as insane as Joe Morgan saying Roger Clemens has pitched better than anybody in baseball but he shouldn't win the Cy because his teammates don't score enough runs for him. It's not a lifetime achievement award. If you want to give it to Pujols you are more than justified in doing so, but don't make up silly stuff like that voters.

 

I agree. Last year, or any other previous year should have absolutely no bearing on this season's award.

 

Notice that I wrote 'should'.

 

If you want to say Pujols is the driving force behind the Cardinals winning the division, then that argument has some merit.

 

The other argument flies in the face of logic.

[imb]

I wish they would just call it the most outstanding player. Throwing the word "valuable" in there confuses all the idiot sports writers.

[gus_dog]

Here's the latest.

 

        G   AB   R  H     2B  3B HR  RBI   TB   BB  SO SB   CS   OBP   SLG   AVG
Pujols 145  533 117 180  35   2  39  108  336   85  61 15  2   0.434 0.630  0.338
Lee    141  536 111 182  45   3  42  100  354   74  92 15  3   0.420  0.670  0.340

 

They keep getting closer. By the end of the season, Pujols may match or be ahead. Total Bases & SLG are really where Lee still has a substantial lead.

[gus_dog]

Here's the finals.

 

        G   AB   R  H     2B  3B HR  RBI   TB   BB  SO SB   CS   OBP   SLG   AVG
Pujols 161  591 129 195  38   2  41  117  360   97  65 16  2   0.430 0.609  0.330
Lee    158  594 120 199  50   3  46  107  393   85 109 15  3   0.418  0.662  0.335

 

Very close at the end.

 

I have to say that Lee's strikeout total is a bit high, but that's not unexpected. His power numbers, IMO, give him the edge.

 

I believe that he did indeed have a better year than Pujols, by just a bit.

 

Congrats to D. Lee on winning the major league batting title.