Marlins (Cabrera) vs Cubs (Hendricks): 4/21/24, 1:20pm, Marquee

[mul21]

14 minutes ago, 1908_Cubs said:

The one caveat I'll add to the HR aspect for Hendricks: while he's not giving up a ton of barrels his xHR on the season is 7.4 and he's given up 8 home runs. To put that in perspective, that's the worst number of any pitcher in the league currently. So while I think the barrel-per-home-runs are low, the xHR and the actual home run data is within a rounding error of each other currently. The xData suggests that while he's been a tad unlucky, he's generally getting beat by the home run within reason. None of this is to ignore the other data only that I think we're in such small sample size territory on Hendricks that the amount of bad luck you find within his data is about the amount of bad luck you want to find. You can point to different numbers to suggest both right now. 

Ultimately, I agree with the overall point that many have suggested that we're kind of on "last chance" for Hendricks for a while. The lack of whiffs is concerning, the statcast data is concerning, the ERA is concerning...I can't find much to point to for hope for improvement unless the control takes a leap forward, and quickly. I want him to succeed, I just don't know if he's capable of it any more. 

That was the striking thing to me.  They scored 3 runs on like 11 pitches or something.  That's insane.

[Brock Beauchamp]

1 hour ago, PackLandVA said:

Who's turn is it?

 Mine?

[thawv]

On 4/21/2024 at 12:27 PM, Brian707 said:

Yes but if anyone deserves the benefit of the doubt it's Kyle. 

So, how long to you give him the "benefit of the doubt?"

[thawv]

On 4/21/2024 at 3:51 PM, UMFan83 said:

I’d love to see what the Cubs % of getting runs home from 3rd and less than 2 outs is compared to the rest of the league. Seems like we’re really failing in those situations often lately. But I could be completely wrong

I personally can't find what you're looking for, but they are hitting .280 with RISP, which is 10th.  They have driven 84 runs, which is 7th.

[Brian707]

15 minutes ago, thawv said:

So, how long to you give him the "benefit of the doubt?"

I mean probably more than you, you went all the way back to Sunday morning to quote me. What options really do the Cubs have at this point? Steele is still a couple weeks away

[LBiittner]

17 minutes ago, thawv said:

So, how long to you give him the "benefit of the doubt?"

Kyle the pitcher or Kyle the poster?

[thawv]

17 minutes ago, Brian707 said:

I mean probably more than you, you went all the way back to Sunday morning to quote me. What options really do the Cubs have at this point? Steele is still a couple weeks away

I just picked up where I left off.  I didn't "go all the way back."  Anyway, I would give him starts until Justin comes back, which could/should be for the Brewers series May 3, 4, 5.

[chibears55]

1 hour ago, Brian707 said:

I mean probably more than you, you went all the way back to Sunday morning to quote me. What options really do the Cubs have at this point? Steele is still a couple weeks away

Yea, I think that when they'll look at everything and everyone to make that decision with Kyle..

He'll have starts against Boston, the Mets, and SD over the next 3 weeks, so, I dont know if he comes away looking better but yea, there's really nobody else available to plug into those starts other the Brown right now, Brown may be better off as a stand by  in those starts to go if Hendricks fails to get to 5 innings.

[Dfan25]

So i was having fun with that trade simulator site and I was wondering what do they have as fair value for Mason Miller . It looks like this : 

Cubs get : Mason Miller

Athletics get : Ballesteros / Arias / Mervis 

 

If the Athletics would make this trade , would you guys do if you were Hoyer ? 

[Stratos]

5 hours ago, thawv said:

So, how long to you give him the "benefit of the doubt?"

The problem is Hendricks has said he has no idea what is wrong with what he's doing, so how do you fix it?  He just isn't inducing swing and miss, that's a problem.  You make contact and balls will fall in.  On Baseball Savant they're hitting over .500 on his fastballs, and the xBA is still over .400.  His FB sucks, it's getting around 6% whiffs, that's horrendous. It was bad last year but not this bad.  The change-up has lost some effectiveness as well.

I'd keep running him out there for now, having him on a short leash, and having another SP like Brown ready on his start days to piggy back.

[Irrelevant Dude]

39 minutes ago, Stratos said:

I'd keep running him out there for now, having him on a short leash, and having another SP like Brown ready on his start days to piggy back.

Ideally though, if Brown isn't starting, it would be nice to have him pitching high leverage innings at the back end of the bullpen rather than having him handcuffed to Hendricks.

[Stratos]

1 hour ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

Ideally though, if Brown isn't starting, it would be nice to have him pitching high leverage innings at the back end of the bullpen rather than having him handcuffed to Hendricks.

I suppose.  Maybe they can use Smyly to piggyback.  Go righty then lefty