Bears off-season thread 2022

[Brian]

Looks like 2nd and 6th… is that good?

 

I don’t see a scenario where he was a good part of the next good Bears team so this (trading him) is fine to me.

Edited March 10, 2022 by Brian

[David]

ok i'm out on poles

 

this is trash.

 

you don't sell low on mack for ok picks.

 

you try to sell high on quinn.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm sure kyle is excited, but that's a weak ass haul. If the highest you can get is a 2nd, the next pick has to be better than a 6th 2 drafts from now.

[Old Style]

I'm OK trading Mack but I don't think this is enough of a return.

[bjam12]

Mack really hasn't been that good the last two years.

[UMFan83]

Not sure how I feel about it. First reaction is very bad. Second reaction is Poles knows he needs to rebuild and is not in a great cap situation and has no draft picks. Mack is an expensive player and one of our best trade pieces so I guess we should have always expected this to happen.

[jersey cubs fan]

Chargers 2nd was the 48th overall.

[UMFan83]

Yeah I dunno the more I think about it I don't hate it. Certainly not out on Poles. I would have preferred to keep him for sure but it's a sensible move IMO.

[David]

Not sure how I feel about it. First reaction is very bad. Second reaction is Poles knows he needs to rebuild and is not in a great cap situation and has no draft picks. Mack is an expensive player and one of our best trade pieces so I guess we should have always expected this to happen.

 

this doesn't really save money though

[SpongeWorthy]

weak ass return

[UMFan83]

Not sure how I feel about it. First reaction is very bad. Second reaction is Poles knows he needs to rebuild and is not in a great cap situation and has no draft picks. Mack is an expensive player and one of our best trade pieces so I guess we should have always expected this to happen.

 

this doesn't really save money though

 

How so? I'm sure you are right but not sure how trading a huge cap hit doesn't save money? Is there some sort of cap penalty for trading him?

[Derwood]

This guy likes the trade:

 

[Tim]

Not sure how I feel about it. First reaction is very bad. Second reaction is Poles knows he needs to rebuild and is not in a great cap situation and has no draft picks. Mack is an expensive player and one of our best trade pieces so I guess we should have always expected this to happen.

 

this doesn't really save money though

It doesn't save much money this year, but does in the future, correct?

[SpongeWorthy]

mack is gonna eat playing opposite of bosa

[jersey cubs fan]

Not sure how I feel about it. First reaction is very bad. Second reaction is Poles knows he needs to rebuild and is not in a great cap situation and has no draft picks. Mack is an expensive player and one of our best trade pieces so I guess we should have always expected this to happen.

 

this doesn't really save money though

It's what, $6m in cap space this year? Then of course it's off the books for next offseason as well. I don't have a problem moving on from him. It was going to happen either this year or next, might as well pull the bandaid. But a 2nd this year, and a 6th next year is barely anything. It allows you to sign a 3rd receiver type.

 

He and Robinson were the two guys I thought most visibly quit on Nagy, FWIW.

[jersey cubs fan]

Is there some sort of cap penalty for trading him?

Yes.

 

The bonuses that were spread out now get lumped into this year.

[jersey cubs fan]

Interesting to think the newly hired defensive minded head coach most likely signed off on this idea

[UMFan83]

Not sure how I feel about it. First reaction is very bad. Second reaction is Poles knows he needs to rebuild and is not in a great cap situation and has no draft picks. Mack is an expensive player and one of our best trade pieces so I guess we should have always expected this to happen.

 

this doesn't really save money though

It's what, $6m in cap space this year? Then of course it's off the books for next offseason as well. I don't have a problem moving on from him. It was going to happen either this year or next, might as well pull the bandaid. But a 2nd this year, and a 6th next year is barely anything. It allows you to sign a 3rd receiver type.

 

He and Robinson were the two guys I thought most visibly quit on Nagy, FWIW.

 

What do you think we should have gotten for Mack given a couple of down-ish seasons? I think a 2nd and a midround pick is probably his value with the size of his contract. The future 6th rounder not great though. Should have been a 3 or a 4 and preferably in this draft. Couldn't the Bears have thrown in like a 6th round pick to bump the 2nd pick up a few rounds?

 

I do agree that it seems like Mack quit on Nagy to some degree, but I'm not sure the trade market cares about that.

[jersey cubs fan]

 

this doesn't really save money though

It's what, $6m in cap space this year? Then of course it's off the books for next offseason as well. I don't have a problem moving on from him. It was going to happen either this year or next, might as well pull the bandaid. But a 2nd this year, and a 6th next year is barely anything. It allows you to sign a 3rd receiver type.

 

He and Robinson were the two guys I thought most visibly quit on Nagy, FWIW.

 

What do you think we should have gotten for Mack given a couple of down-ish seasons? I think a 2nd and a midround pick is probably his value with the size of his contract. The future 6th rounder not great though. Should have been a 3 or a 4 and preferably in this draft. Couldn't the Bears have thrown in like a 6th round pick to bump the 2nd pick up a few rounds?

 

I would think a late 1st and something later, or a 2nd and 3rd/4th (this year). It's not just that it's a 6th, it's a 2023 6th.

 

I do agree that it seems like Mack quit on Nagy to some degree, but I'm not sure the trade market cares about that.

I think Poles and Eberflus might have cared.

[mias_tisg]

[Bertz]

 

Do this please. Gut the old/expensive portion of the defense to build back the draft capital deficit. Go big on a WR and a LT to support Fields, and otherwise focus on efficiency and depth depth depth.

 

You have this year to evaluate Fields, and assuming he looks good you're in great position to go all in next year.

[raw]

Interesting to think the newly hired defensive minded head coach most likely signed off on this idea

 

Yeah, Eberflus chased pass rush the entire time in Indy. Drafted 2 DEs in the 2nd round of 1st draft (2018-Tyquan Lewis, Kemoko Turay), signed Justin Houston after that, drafted another pair with the 1st 2 picks last year. I thought for sure Eberflus would take the embarrassment of riches the Bears comparatively had at DE.

[Splendid Splinter]

This Mack move also helps with the whole Roquan extension next year if Poles goes that route.

 

That being said, Bears should trade Quinn, cut Goldman (unless you can get a late round pick)/Trev/whoever else that'll give us decent savings. Go in on a LT and Cooper/Godwin/Kirk. Fill out the defense with 2nd/3rd wave FAs and post june cuts. Would be set up for the draft nicely where you can let it come to you instead of trying to make something happen.

[raw]

 

Do this please. Gut the old/expensive portion of the defense to build back the draft capital deficit. Go big on a WR and a LT to support Fields, and otherwise focus on efficiency and depth depth depth.

 

You have this year to evaluate Fields, and assuming he looks good you're in great position to go all in next year.

 

Hell yeah, I'd trade Quinn for sure. See if anyone wants Jackson and Foles.

[minnesotacubsfan]

sad to see Mack go and I'm not at all happy with the return but it is time to rebuild this team quickly