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the way this season has gone, i'm glad i consider all these pandemic seasons to be fake so my emotional investment is minimal. it's just mindless entertainment for me when they actually play the games, and after those 3 hours i don't care at all. is this how casual fans do sports fanning?

 

fantasy and the occasional sports bets are the only things getting me emotionally invested in games at all this year.

 

it's almost a relief my teams suck rn. example - i kinda would've hated if the Cubs had broken the drought this year (granted, at least football is playing something resembling a full season).

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Allen Robinson is the only valuable player on offense, and he won't be here next year. There is a slight chance Lawrence stays in school to avoid being drafted by the Jets. He won't have that option the following year, even though he may not favor being drafted by a team that has an even worse QB history than the Jets. So while it is unlikely, there is a chance the Bears could be tanking for Trevor for 2022. Even if he comes out, they could be putting themselves in position to get the best QB prospect in that draft.

 

So over the next year, they should bring in a new GM and coach and draft OLine heavily and then start trading off defensive assets for draft capital in preparation to make a big splash in the 2022 draft. I see nothing on this roster that leads me to believe they should prepare to be competitive next year. That ship has sailed. Last night's game was one of the most difficult offensive games I've had the displeasure to put myself through. I'm ready to move on from this disaster, blow it up and start over.

 

I'd keep the secondary intact, they are young and good. draft oline, find a taker for Smith, Hicks, and possibly Mack. Dump Travathian, Quinn. If you can draft the Lance, then try him. need a rb in the mid rounds, and a speed rusher, #1 wr next year

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the way this season has gone, i'm glad i consider all these pandemic seasons to be fake so my emotional investment is minimal. it's just mindless entertainment for me when they actually play the games, and after those 3 hours i don't care at all. is this how casual fans do sports fanning?

sure, but its a slippery slope before you're just going to the opera

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Allen Robinson is the only valuable player on offense, and he won't be here next year. There is a slight chance Lawrence stays in school to avoid being drafted by the Jets. He won't have that option the following year, even though he may not favor being drafted by a team that has an even worse QB history than the Jets. So while it is unlikely, there is a chance the Bears could be tanking for Trevor for 2022. Even if he comes out, they could be putting themselves in position to get the best QB prospect in that draft.

 

So over the next year, they should bring in a new GM and coach and draft OLine heavily and then start trading off defensive assets for draft capital in preparation to make a big splash in the 2022 draft. I see nothing on this roster that leads me to believe they should prepare to be competitive next year. That ship has sailed. Last night's game was one of the most difficult offensive games I've had the displeasure to put myself through. I'm ready to move on from this disaster, blow it up and start over.

 

I'd keep the secondary intact, they are young and good. draft oline, find a taker for Smith, Hicks, and possibly Mack. Dump Travathian, Quinn. If you can draft the Lance, then try him. need a rb in the mid rounds, and a speed rusher, #1 wr next year

 

I wouldn't waste draft capital on an RB. Pierce showed some burst. Give him a bigger look. Miami tossed an UDFA on his third or fourth team into their backfield yesterday and he looked like a first round draft pick. Countless RB's have stepped out of the shadows this year while many of the top RB's sit on IR and have helped keep their team's offense keep moving. What the Bears need is draft picks during a rebuild.

 

The real frustrating part of yesterday's game for me was Minny and their atrocious defense blitzing time and again, and the Bears offense unable to counter with passes over the middle. They didn't even try that. Then Pagano rushes 4 every single play and gives the opposing offense all the time in the world to find an open receiver. When Skrine is the guy covering Thielen, he's bound to get burned when given time for the play to develop. Pathetic on both sides of the ball. Some well planned blitzes by the Bears defense could have stalled many drives. Instead, the vanilla "bend but don't break" defensive scheme allowed first down after first down and enough points to put the game out of reach.

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Allen Robinson is the only valuable player on offense, and he won't be here next year. There is a slight chance Lawrence stays in school to avoid being drafted by the Jets. He won't have that option the following year, even though he may not favor being drafted by a team that has an even worse QB history than the Jets. So while it is unlikely, there is a chance the Bears could be tanking for Trevor for 2022. Even if he comes out, they could be putting themselves in position to get the best QB prospect in that draft.

 

So over the next year, they should bring in a new GM and coach and draft OLine heavily and then start trading off defensive assets for draft capital in preparation to make a big splash in the 2022 draft. I see nothing on this roster that leads me to believe they should prepare to be competitive next year. That ship has sailed. Last night's game was one of the most difficult offensive games I've had the displeasure to put myself through. I'm ready to move on from this disaster, blow it up and start over.

 

I'd keep the secondary intact, they are young and good. draft oline, find a taker for Smith, Hicks, and possibly Mack. Dump Travathian, Quinn. If you can draft the Lance, then try him. need a rb in the mid rounds, and a speed rusher, #1 wr next year

 

Secondary isn't really that young. Skrine is 31. Gipson is 30 and a FA. Fuller will be 29 next year. And I don't know why the hell you'd trade Smith. This is his 3rd season and he's younger than all but 5 players on the team, and all 5 of them are rookies. He's a building block.

 

Also, the big issue with blowing things up is that nobody wants Quinn and pay him 24Mil over the next 2 years guaranteed for his 1 sack of production. It would also cost the Bears more for him not to be on the team than it would to keep him. Also long shot that anyone wants a 30+ year old LB in Trevathan. I'm sure someone would take Mack, but you aren't getting anything near franchise changing for him. You're probably looking at a package similar to either of the Ngakoue trades (2nd/3rd and a 5th).

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I was curious why there wasn't a 10 second run off on the Foles injury. Is a QB injury exempt from the 10 second run off when you have no time outs?
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Allen Robinson is the only valuable player on offense, and he won't be here next year. There is a slight chance Lawrence stays in school to avoid being drafted by the Jets. He won't have that option the following year, even though he may not favor being drafted by a team that has an even worse QB history than the Jets. So while it is unlikely, there is a chance the Bears could be tanking for Trevor for 2022. Even if he comes out, they could be putting themselves in position to get the best QB prospect in that draft.

 

So over the next year, they should bring in a new GM and coach and draft OLine heavily and then start trading off defensive assets for draft capital in preparation to make a big splash in the 2022 draft. I see nothing on this roster that leads me to believe they should prepare to be competitive next year. That ship has sailed. Last night's game was one of the most difficult offensive games I've had the displeasure to put myself through. I'm ready to move on from this disaster, blow it up and start over.

 

I'd keep the secondary intact, they are young and good. draft oline, find a taker for Smith, Hicks, and possibly Mack. Dump Travathian, Quinn. If you can draft the Lance, then try him. need a rb in the mid rounds, and a speed rusher, #1 wr next year

 

 

 

Secondary isn't really that young. Skrine is 31. Gipson is 30 and a FA. Fuller will be 29 next year. And I don't know why the hell you'd trade Smith. This is his 3rd season and he's younger than all but 5 players on the team, and all 5 of them are rookies. He's a building block.

 

Also, the big issue with blowing things up is that nobody wants Quinn and pay him 24Mil over the next 2 years guaranteed for his 1 sack of production. It would also cost the Bears more for him not to be on the team than it would to keep him. Also long shot that anyone wants a 30+ year old LB in Trevathan. I'm sure someone would take Mack, but you aren't getting anything near franchise changing for him. You're probably looking at a package similar to either of the Ngakoue trades (2nd/3rd and a 5th).

 

Pace really has poorly spent on FAs. Smith has the best player on the team this year along with Fuller.

 

Unfort the Bears have a GM who was in job saving mode one year too late.

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I was curious why there wasn't a 10 second run off on the Foles injury. Is a QB injury exempt from the 10 second run off when you have no time outs?

 

Incomplete pass stops clock. Injury can stop play clock without run off.

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I was curious why there wasn't a 10 second run off on the Foles injury. Is a QB injury exempt from the 10 second run off when you have no time outs?

 

Incomplete pass stops clock. Injury can stop play clock without run off.

 

That's right. It was an imcomplete pass. Thanks!

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Re: The offseason.

 

The cap could drop down to like 175M. If that happens, to even fill the roster, you're probably looking at;

 

Cut: Massie, Leno Jr, Skrine, Graham

Trade: Hicks (I think you could maybe get a 6th or 7th and the trading team would try and extend him). If not, cut as well

 

I don't know what the market for Fuller or Mack would actually be. I'm not sure it'd be worth dumping them for a late pick. They're older, but could still have some legs for 2 or 3 years down the line if you're trying to compete again relatively soon. Fuller's deal is up after 2021 though, so that does play a factor.

 

Stuck with Quinn and Trevathan pretty much. Their 2021 base salaries are both guaranteed, so there is almost no value to cutting them.

 

That would get them about 25M under the cap, but with only like 30 roster spots filled, so with the draft and minimum signings, that basically uses up your cap. If you actually did that, you're also letting Arob, RRH, Patterson, Trubisky, O'Donnell, Edwards Jr, Bush, Mingo, Gipson, Urban, Houston-Carson, Santos all walk. Maybe a couple of those guys come back at small salaries, but I'd feel pretty confident in netting the max 4 comp picks, including a decent one for ARob.

 

They did trade away their 4th this year, but should get 3 comp picks (2 6ths and 1 7th projected). Then I think they send a 7th to OAK for Piniero and get one back from Shaheen (possibly a 6th). So I think they're at 9 picks potentially; 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6/7, 7. Then all their picks in 2022 still intact, if they netted 4 comp picks from this FA, that's 11 more draft picks in 2022.

 

Then in 2022 the weight of a lot of their dead cap hits is lifted and they could have a very healthy FA splurge along with the 20 recent draft picks just mentioned. So a new GM could remake the roster to his liking a lot very quickly. Fuller, Smith, Daniels, and Miller would be the FA of note that year. Obviously QB would be the big elephant in the room, but basically nothing else on the roster should be a major hindrance to build back in that timeframe. Even without cutting guys they could probably have big cap room and could open up a lot more with aging guys like Quinn, Goldman, Trevathan who's dead hits largely drop off.

 

If Pace stays, I'm guessing they'll figure out some crazy ways to leverage the future 2022/23 space with a lot of salary cap tricks and maybe trade away more future picks. I have grown accustomed and comfortable with some amount of silly cap manipulation because it is basically play money, but at some point, it usually leads to a need to take all the hits you've been moving around. 2021 just looks like that year, especially with a dropping cap due to covid. The only chance of getting out of it most the time is banking on rising cap numbers. So unless you felt really strong about Pace, it make sense to make a move. I still think Pace is okay, and maybe he'll get another shot one day as there's some positives, but I don't like him enough to stick out a transition at this point, and going in again on 2021 is dumb.

 

I'm walking myself into saying Champ Kelly (current assistant director of player personnel) could be that guy, as he could keep whatever is good of the current FO and get some of that continuity benefit, but perhaps put a guy at the top who might do better picking in the top 10 and understand resource allocation/risk better than Pace has (apparently he's something of an analytics/scouting bridge guy on the staff). I'd presume to move on from Nagy, but a lot depends on how you feel about the current QB class in 2021. If you feel relatively certain you'll target one of the QBs, probably best to move on. If you think you may not draft a high pick QB, not a lot of harm in letting him be a placeholder for a year if you want. I suppose part of me just isn't ready for another big tear down like there was between Emery and Pace again. I guess a qualified guy like Dodds could come in for a mini rebuild instead of complete overhaul too, but... I don't know, its never easy for fans to figure out the "hot" FO hires, but apparently one of the hot names is already on the staff, seems convenient.

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Pace really has poorly spent on FAs. Smith has the best player on the team this year along with Fuller.

I'd say Pace's FA has been a mixed bag, but overall good. Hicks has been one of the most successful FA signings of the past several years. I think he made many of the right calls on many internal FAs as well (Fuller, Amos, Callahan, Meredith are all plus decisions that come to mind). He's gotten a seemingly endless supply of qualified replacement DL bodies to flow through FA. ARob will have been a great value signing. He didn't go crazy investing in safeties opposite Jackson, which again I think is smart.

 

TE and QB decisions have pretty much all sucked (FA or trade). Outside of ARob, WR hasn't been great in FA either, bu no killer deals handed out. OL has been okay FA wise, I'd just have preferred more draft investment. RB he hasn't done much in FA, but that's probably what I'd prefer. He committed to it in the draft generally with mid round picks... that's what you want to see at that spot.

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Re: The offseason.

 

The cap could drop down to like 175M. If that happens, to even fill the roster, you're probably looking at;

 

Cut: Massie, Leno Jr, Skrine, Graham

Trade: Hicks (I think you could maybe get a 6th or 7th and the trading team would try and extend him). If not, cut as well

 

I don't know what the market for Fuller or Mack would actually be. I'm not sure it'd be worth dumping them for a late pick. They're older, but could still have some legs for 2 or 3 years down the line if you're trying to compete again relatively soon. Fuller's deal is up after 2021 though, so that does play a factor.

 

Stuck with Quinn and Trevathan pretty much. Their 2021 base salaries are both guaranteed, so there is almost no value to cutting them.

 

That would get them about 25M under the cap, but with only like 30 roster spots filled, so with the draft and minimum signings, that basically uses up your cap. If you actually did that, you're also letting Arob, RRH, Patterson, Trubisky, O'Donnell, Edwards Jr, Bush, Mingo, Gipson, Urban, Houston-Carson, Santos all walk. Maybe a couple of those guys come back at small salaries, but I'd feel pretty confident in netting the max 4 comp picks, including a decent one for ARob.

 

They did trade away their 4th this year, but should get 3 comp picks (2 6ths and 1 7th projected). Then I think they send a 7th to OAK for Piniero and get one back from Shaheen (possibly a 6th). So I think they're at 9 picks potentially; 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6/7, 7. Then all their picks in 2022 still intact, if they netted 4 comp picks from this FA, that's 11 more draft picks in 2022.

 

Then in 2022 the weight of a lot of their dead cap hits is lifted and they could have a very healthy FA splurge along with the 20 recent draft picks just mentioned. So a new GM could remake the roster to his liking a lot very quickly. Fuller, Smith, Daniels, and Miller would be the FA of note that year. Obviously QB would be the big elephant in the room, but basically nothing else on the roster should be a major hindrance to build back in that timeframe. Even without cutting guys they could probably have big cap room and could open up a lot more with aging guys like Quinn, Goldman, Trevathan who's dead hits largely drop off.

 

If Pace stays, I'm guessing they'll figure out some crazy ways to leverage the future 2022/23 space with a lot of salary cap tricks and maybe trade away more future picks. I have grown accustomed and comfortable with some amount of silly cap manipulation because it is basically play money, but at some point, it usually leads to a need to take all the hits you've been moving around. 2021 just looks like that year, especially with a dropping cap due to covid. The only chance of getting out of it most the time is banking on rising cap numbers. So unless you felt really strong about Pace, it make sense to make a move. I still think Pace is okay, and maybe he'll get another shot one day as there's some positives, but I don't like him enough to stick out a transition at this point, and going in again on 2021 is dumb.

 

I'm walking myself into saying Champ Kelly (current assistant director of player personnel) could be that guy, as he could keep whatever is good of the current FO and get some of that continuity benefit, but perhaps put a guy at the top who might do better picking in the top 10 and understand resource allocation/risk better than Pace has (apparently he's something of an analytics/scouting bridge guy on the staff). I'd presume to move on from Nagy, but a lot depends on how you feel about the current QB class in 2021. If you feel relatively certain you'll target one of the QBs, probably best to move on. If you think you may not draft a high pick QB, not a lot of harm in letting him be a placeholder for a year if you want. I suppose part of me just isn't ready for another big tear down like there was between Emery and Pace again. I guess a qualified guy like Dodds could come in for a mini rebuild instead of complete overhaul too, but... I don't know, its never easy for fans to figure out the "hot" FO hires, but apparently one of the hot names is already on the staff, seems convenient.

 

Fuller's cap hit is 20M next year, you can save a ton by restructuring/extending him. And it probably won't kill you in the future because he's playing at a high level. Hicks is more interesting. I don't think they can really afford to cut him because he means a lot to this defense, but do they really want to extend a guy that turned 31 last night? 12Mil cap hit, save 10.5 by cutting him. If you are stuck with Quinn, Mack and Trevathan contracts, you might as well give Hicks like a 3/36 deal and lower the cap hit to like 8 next year and an our after 2022.

 

I also have the unpopular opinion that they shouldn't cut Leno. They simply can't afford to fix RG, RT and LT while maintaining any form of depth and the defense. I don't know how feasible a paycut is, but Leno has an 11Mil cap hit and would still have to pay him over 1/2 of that to go away. I'd dangle that I'd cut him for the cap space and see if he wants to gamble that he can get more than the 5Mil owed to him on the FA market and a starting spot. It worked with Reiff in Minnesota. Could even give him a non-guaranteed year as his deal is up after 2021 also.

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Fuller's cap hit is 20M next year, you can save a ton by restructuring/extending him. And it probably won't kill you in the future because he's playing at a high level. Hicks is more interesting. I don't think they can really afford to cut him because he means a lot to this defense, but do they really want to extend a guy that turned 31 last night? 12Mil cap hit, save 10.5 by cutting him. If you are stuck with Quinn, Mack and Trevathan contracts, you might as well give Hicks like a 3/36 deal and lower the cap hit to like 8 next year and an our after 2022.

 

I also have the unpopular opinion that they shouldn't cut Leno. They simply can't afford to fix RG, RT and LT while maintaining any form of depth and the defense. I don't know how feasible a paycut is, but Leno has an 11Mil cap hit and would still have to pay him over 1/2 of that to go away. I'd dangle that I'd cut him for the cap space and see if he wants to gamble that he can get more than the 5Mil owed to him on the FA market and a starting spot. It worked with Reiff in Minnesota. Could even give him a non-guaranteed year as his deal is up after 2021 also.

Yea, a Fuller extension is a possibility, for sure.... Really just depends on how risk averse you want to be with soon to be 30 year old CBs. That could maybe get you the cap space you need instead of cutting Leno, to your later point. I'd actually probably prefer to keep Massie and replace Leno, but its a situation where neither is really great. Leno just seems to have more downward trajectory than Massie, IMO.

 

I'd love to see an early investment in the OL with the draft. Pace actually hasn't been horrible finding replacement level OL in FA, with the weird love affair with Coward being probably the biggest stain. You do end up with a little bit of a catch 22 if you invest your first rounder in a QB and totally rebuild the O-line with unknowns. Outside of Fields/Lawrence though, most the other QBs probably aren't day 1 starters though. But you'd also not really trust Foles to stay healthy, especially behind a patchwork OLine. I think you could convince yourself to go with Bars/Mustipher/random vet min FA G as your other interior OLine starter and backups. So it comes down to replacing both tackle spots.

 

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They simply can't afford to fix RG, RT and LT while maintaining any form of depth and the defense.
This actually is somewhat the thesis of my post though too. They're stuck with terrible depth in 2021 unless they turnover every possible stone as far a cap manuevers, but since they don't have a QB, you're probably looking at another losing record and then you're still not in a great cap spot in 2022 since you just shifted all the 2021 hits. If Foles was even looking average I'd say, well you could try and double down on awesome D, game manager offense again... But short of finding an unexpected Day 1 QB contributor from a rookie (like a Prescott), you're horsefeathers out of luck.
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Regarding some of the attempts at offense last night those starting behind or at the LOS are puzzling. You've got an OL struggling to block anything given this, to me, it doesn't make much sense to try running such plays, I don't get it. Did the Vikings give them a look they thought favorable? Even so, with current state of OL, why even consider such plays? I'm just a somewhat OK youth lacrosse coach however, it doesn't take coaching expertise to observe and question these things.
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Allen Robinson is the only valuable player on offense, and he won't be here next year. There is a slight chance Lawrence stays in school to avoid being drafted by the Jets. He won't have that option the following year, even though he may not favor being drafted by a team that has an even worse QB history than the Jets. So while it is unlikely, there is a chance the Bears could be tanking for Trevor for 2022. Even if he comes out, they could be putting themselves in position to get the best QB prospect in that draft.

 

So over the next year, they should bring in a new GM and coach and draft OLine heavily and then start trading off defensive assets for draft capital in preparation to make a big splash in the 2022 draft. I see nothing on this roster that leads me to believe they should prepare to be competitive next year. That ship has sailed. Last night's game was one of the most difficult offensive games I've had the displeasure to put myself through. I'm ready to move on from this disaster, blow it up and start over.

 

I'd keep the secondary intact, they are young and good. draft oline, find a taker for Smith, Hicks, and possibly Mack. Dump Travathian, Quinn. If you can draft the Lance, then try him. need a rb in the mid rounds, and a speed rusher, #1 wr next year

 

Secondary isn't really that young. Skrine is 31. Gipson is 30 and a FA. Fuller will be 29 next year. And I don't know why the hell you'd trade Smith. This is his 3rd season and he's younger than all but 5 players on the team, and all 5 of them are rookies. He's a building block.

 

Also, the big issue with blowing things up is that nobody wants Quinn and pay him 24Mil over the next 2 years guaranteed for his 1 sack of production. It would also cost the Bears more for him not to be on the team than it would to keep him. Also long shot that anyone wants a 30+ year old LB in Trevathan. I'm sure someone would take Mack, but you aren't getting anything near franchise changing for him. You're probably looking at a package similar to either of the Ngakoue trades (2nd/3rd and a 5th).

 

 

I'd trade Smith because he might be worth the most of any of them outside of Mack and we need draft picks. As for he secondary, Skrine and Gipson specifically are not that critical in the secondary, if you want to find others to fill their rolls go for it. Fuller still plays at a high level, and Johnson and Jackson are studs. As a position group, they are probably the strongest and most likely to stay in tact moving forward based on their level of play and their ages.

 

the quinn deal sucks, I didn't realize it costs more to cut him. Cut Danny outright

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I'd trade Smith because he might be worth the most of any of them outside of Mack and we need draft picks. As for he secondary, Skrine and Gipson specifically are not that critical in the secondary, if you want to find others to fill their rolls go for it. Fuller still plays at a high level, and Johnson and Jackson are studs. As a position group, they are probably the strongest and most likely to stay in tact moving forward based on their level of play and their ages.

 

the quinn deal sucks, I didn't realize it costs more to cut him. Cut Danny outright

The vet trade market is always hard to get a read on, but I just dont see a huge market for Smith compared to the value of locking him on a extension and letting him be the leader of the defense for the next realistic window. I guess if someone comes up with a 1st rounder or multiple top 50 picks I could be swayed, but I don't see it.

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I'd trade Smith because he might be worth the most of any of them outside of Mack and we need draft picks. As for he secondary, Skrine and Gipson specifically are not that critical in the secondary, if you want to find others to fill their rolls go for it. Fuller still plays at a high level, and Johnson and Jackson are studs. As a position group, they are probably the strongest and most likely to stay in tact moving forward based on their level of play and their ages.

 

the quinn deal sucks, I didn't realize it costs more to cut him. Cut Danny outright

The vet FA market is always hard to get a read on, but I just dont see a huge market for Smith compared to the value of locking him on a extension and letting him be the leader of the defense for the next realistic window. I guess if someone comes up with a 1st rounder or multiple top 50 picks I could be swayed, but I don't see it.

Somebody's money will have to come off the books in 2026 when the team is needing to extend this year's draft picks, might as well be Smith.

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I'd trade Smith because he might be worth the most of any of them outside of Mack and we need draft picks. As for he secondary, Skrine and Gipson specifically are not that critical in the secondary, if you want to find others to fill their rolls go for it. Fuller still plays at a high level, and Johnson and Jackson are studs. As a position group, they are probably the strongest and most likely to stay in tact moving forward based on their level of play and their ages.

 

the quinn deal sucks, I didn't realize it costs more to cut him. Cut Danny outright

The vet FA market is always hard to get a read on, but I just dont see a huge market for Smith compared to the value of locking him on a extension and letting him be the leader of the defense for the next realistic window. I guess if someone comes up with a 1st rounder or multiple top 50 picks I could be swayed, but I don't see it.

Somebody's money will have to come off the books in 2026 when the team is needing to extend this year's draft picks, might as well be Smith.

Already predicting a Kyle Trask extension. I like it.

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