NFL Week 5

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As for the Dak contract, I feel like people tend to take sides one way or the other, and I'm not sure that's warranted here. Dallas by all accounts offered him a very good deal. He was well within his rights to want an even better one and he was prepared to take some risk in order to get it.

 

I feel sad for him for the timing when he got hurt, but I don't feel he was cheated. And thankfully from what I heard about his injury today, it should be something that still lands him a good long-term contract. He might not be quite the same guy next year, but he should get back to full health eventually.

 

I think you have to consider the situation. Jerry Jones throws money at everyone. Made Amari Cooper the 2nd highest paid WR (at the time) in the same offseason. The money for Dak was "very good", but he wanted "great" money. The Cowboys were trying to pay him like Wentz/Goff, when he wanted to get paid between Watson and Mahomes (who signed after Dak was franchised). He proved in the first 4 games he's way closer to those 2 than he is to Wentz. He did gamble on himself. But Jerry Jones has a history of paying players much more, who are much less deserving.

 

And I know you can't pay for past performance, but Dak was a 4th round pick. He was getting a 4th round salary for years as a top 10 QB.

[CubColtPacer]

As for the Dak contract, I feel like people tend to take sides one way or the other, and I'm not sure that's warranted here. Dallas by all accounts offered him a very good deal. He was well within his rights to want an even better one and he was prepared to take some risk in order to get it.

 

I feel sad for him for the timing when he got hurt, but I don't feel he was cheated. And thankfully from what I heard about his injury today, it should be something that still lands him a good long-term contract. He might not be quite the same guy next year, but he should get back to full health eventually.

 

I think you have to consider the situation. Jerry Jones throws money at everyone. Made Amari Cooper the 2nd highest paid WR (at the time) in the same offseason. The money for Dak was "very good", but he wanted "great" money. The Cowboys were trying to pay him like Wentz/Goff, when he wanted to get paid between Watson and Mahomes (who signed after Dak was franchised). He proved in the first 4 games he's way closer to those 2 than he is to Wentz. He did gamble on himself. But Jerry Jones has a history of paying players much more, who are much less deserving.

 

And I know you can't pay for past performance, but Dak was a 4th round pick. He was getting a 4th round salary for years as a top 10 QB.

 

Did he though? The key QB metrics have him 6th, 7th, 8th, and 13th through the first four games. He's kind of in between those two tiers, which is where the QB market gets very tricky. Not good enough to really throw whatever money he wants at him, but good enough that some team will likely do exactly that, and so he doesn't want to really take a decent bit less.

 

I agree that Jerry tends to throw money around. I'm not sure why he's taken a harder line towards Dak's contract. And maybe that makes me feel more bad for Dak. It just doesn't make me feel he's been wronged in some way.

[NOLA]

Holy crap, Justin Herbert just made a great throw for a TD.

 

The MNF booth is not good.

[OleMissCub]

Holy crap, Justin Herbert just made a great throw for a TD.

 

The MNF booth is not good.

 

Yah that was a CRAZY good throw.

 

Oh look, Taysom Hill is in the game and we lost a down because of it. Shock

[Cubswin11]

Has a play with Tasyum Hill ever worked? One shitty shotgun run tonight and a dropped pass

[Cubswin11]

PUT IN JAMEIS YOU COWARDS

[OleMissCub]

PUT IN JAMEIS YOU COWARDS

 

It's sad. "I'd rather have Jameis than Brees" is something I could not ever imagine myself saying in my lifetime. But it's the truth. Drew won’t ever get benched though.

[NOLA]

Has a play with Tasyum Hill ever worked? One horsefeathers shotgun run tonight and a dropped pass

He was a great change of pace for the last two seasons, but maybe one good gain this year.

 

I always knew that Drew was going to slip, but I never expected it to be field vision and awareness. He’s ready to check down every single play call.

[soccer10k]

Zimmer is an idiot. Should've gone for two to put them up by 6. If he misses the 2-pt conversion, there's really no difference between being up by 4 or 5. A TD still beats you. And then it would've made the 4th down call easy -go for the FG and be up 7 or 9. But that jacka$s made the wrong decision twice and it cost his team the game.

 

I didn’t watch but why not go for the FG anyway at the end? At least then worst case scenario is you go to OT if Seattle gets a TD and the 2 point.

 

That’s not to say they shouldn’t have gone for 2 earlier though. I get you want to kill the game if you have the chance but the ability to not just lose in regulation seems valuable.

 

It is valuable, but so is 1) the chance to end the game right there, which is a pretty good one and 2) the field position difference witch is especially significant with that amount of time left.

 

It's a wash math wise, it's pretty much personal preference.

 

I figured it was probably pretty close on which choice is more likely to result in your team winning the game. My personal preference is definitely to just take the 3, especially because of the 2-point conversion. If they were up 4, I’d probably want them to go for it.

Edited October 13, 2020 by soccer10k

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Holy crap, Justin Herbert just made a great throw for a TD.

 

The MNF booth is not good.

Yeah it's weird because I love Levy for hockey games. Love Riddick's analysis on sportscenter or whatever on ESPN. And Griese was OK calling college games. But I hate them together. Levy not a football guy. Riddick is more of a film guy, IMO and will be a good GM one day. Griese shouldn't even be there.

 

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[NOLA]

[Andy]

Has a play with Tasyum Hill ever worked? One horsefeathers shotgun run tonight and a dropped pass

I don't watch many Saints games, but I can confirm that it at least feels like whatever they tell Taysom Hill to do works 100 percent of the time if they play Carolina.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

That was a big boy catch.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

horsefeathers kickers.

[Omar]

The Bears should consider using Trubisky the way Saints use Hill.

[NOLA]

Bye next week for the Saints. Get healthy, bench Marcus Williams and make a run.

[OleMissCub]

Bye next week for the Saints. Get healthy, bench Marcus Williams and make a run.

 

I’m curious about the Michael Thomas “fight”. Smells like BS to me.

[NOLA]

Bye next week for the Saints. Get healthy, bench Marcus Williams and make a run.

 

I’m curious about the Michael Thomas “fight”. Smells like BS to me.

No, it happened. He punched Gardner-Johnson, probably the second biggest horsefeathers talker in practices behind MT. Nothing to see here.

 

On the other hand, I’ve seen things like this quite a bit this season.

[Derwood]

Bye next week for the Saints. Get healthy, bench Marcus Williams and make a run.

 

I’m curious about the Michael Thomas “fight”. Smells like BS to me.

 

Local radio had a segment yesterday where they said that MT did this all the time at Ohio State (not throw punches, but be a giant crap-talking douche in practice)

[NOLA]

Bye next week for the Saints. Get healthy, bench Marcus Williams and make a run.

 

I’m curious about the Michael Thomas “fight”. Smells like BS to me.

 

Local radio had a segment yesterday where they said that MT did this all the time at Ohio State (not throw punches, but be a giant crap-talking douche in practice)

Just listening to a first hand account. Apparently, MT and CJGJ got into it last season around week 3. Last week, they started jawing at each other and Thomas basically sucker punched him when he was looking the other way. Good on Payton for immediately suspending him. He was healthy enough to start last night.

[Derwood]

 

I’m curious about the Michael Thomas “fight”. Smells like BS to me.

 

Local radio had a segment yesterday where they said that MT did this all the time at Ohio State (not throw punches, but be a giant crap-talking douche in practice)

Just listening to a first hand account. Apparently, MT and CJGJ got into it last season around week 3. Last week, they started jawing at each other and Thomas basically sucker punched him when he was looking the other way. Good on Payton for immediately suspending him. He was healthy enough to start last night.

 

The stories they were telling about OSU practice were that Thomas would endlessly rag on DB's in practice, constantly talking crap, throwing balls at them when they failed to cover him, etc. The guy is extremely talented, but has a typical WR mouth

[NOLA]

Bye next week for the Saints. Get healthy, bench Marcus Williams and make a run.

 

I’m curious about the Michael Thomas “fight”. Smells like BS to me.

 

Here you go:

Multiple sources said the suspension had less to do with Thomas’ role in a fight with teammate C.J. Gardner-Johnson during practice on Saturday than it did his actions after the fracas. Thomas, they said, talked back to coaches, including Payton, and obstinately refused counsel afterward.

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Sources said Thomas barked at team trainers for failing to tape his ankle properly and accused one administrative staffer of illegally going through his mail.

 

Thomas’ unpredictable, aloof personality has alienated members of the team’s public relations staff and led to social media snipes at opposing players and local reporters, frustrating the club’s brain trust.

https://theathletic.com/2135319/2020/10/13/michael-thomas-needs-to-wise-up-wake-up-and-grow-up-before-its-too-late/?source=emp_shared_article

[OleMissCub]

Bye next week for the Saints. Get healthy, bench Marcus Williams and make a run.

 

I’m curious about the Michael Thomas “fight”. Smells like BS to me.

 

Here you go:

Multiple sources said the suspension had less to do with Thomas’ role in a fight with teammate C.J. Gardner-Johnson during practice on Saturday than it did his actions after the fracas. Thomas, they said, talked back to coaches, including Payton, and obstinately refused counsel afterward.

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Sources said Thomas barked at team trainers for failing to tape his ankle properly and accused one administrative staffer of illegally going through his mail.

 

Thomas’ unpredictable, aloof personality has alienated members of the team’s public relations staff and led to social media snipes at opposing players and local reporters, frustrating the club’s brain trust.

https://theathletic.com/2135319/2020/10/13/michael-thomas-needs-to-wise-up-wake-up-and-grow-up-before-its-too-late/?source=emp_shared_article

 

Lovely. Hey Michael, more Marques Colston and less Joe Horn plz.

[OleMissCub]

[NOLA]

I can't believe this hasn't already happened. The NFL has been putting pressure on our mayor for over a month. The Saints have played in Tiger Stadium before, after Katrina in 2005. If that were to happen, she's toast, as if she's not already.