Blackhawks 2021?

[jersey cubs fan]

 

I’m not really familiar with how the undrafted free agent game works, but this guy seems likely to play for the Blackhawks this season.

[Tim]

Bowman really does have a problem.

[jersey cubs fan]

[jersey cubs fan]

 

The Blackhawks in the odd position to be able to take on cap space while getting a guy they will surely expose to expansion draft. They get some marginal talent as well.

[17 Seconds]

stan is basically West Side Rooter. it's going to work one of these times

[jersey cubs fan]

blackhawks making some trades, they just got patient zero from Vancouver's recent Covid outbreak and got VEgas's 2nd round pick for Janmark.

[Tim]

blackhawks making some trades, they just got patient zero from Vancouver's recent Covid outbreak and got VEgas's 2nd round pick for Janmark.

That's a nice trade for Janmark

[jersey cubs fan]

blackhawks making some trades, they just got patient zero from Vancouver's recent Covid outbreak and got VEgas's 2nd round pick for Janmark.

That's a nice trade for Janmark

Agree, back of the round pick but still some value in getting another 2nd, especially since they do not have a 3rd.

[jersey cubs fan]

[UMFan83]

I'm lost, are the Blackhawks buyers or sellers or a little of both?

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm lost, are the Blackhawks buyers or sellers or a little of both?

Obviously sellers. They've stated all along its about the future. They acquired a couple guys who are unsigned but should/could compete for jobs in the next year or two. They got draft picks and they got guys they can use as their expansion draft bait. The 2021 team is not at all the focus.

[17 Seconds]

I'm lost, are the Blackhawks buyers or sellers or a little of both?

 

they haven't really done anything in terms of buying. the panthers trade was mostly about getting borgstrom

[jersey cubs fan]

Blackhawks suck?

[Tim]

Blackhawks suck?

They're just meh at this point. They're going to have games like this where they can't overcome a couple of mistakes even against a bad team.

 

Of course, Detroit is a bad team that has been playing really well lately, too. They'd recently beaten Carolina twice and Tampa

[jersey cubs fan]

Blackhawks suck?

They're just meh at this point. They're going to have games like this where they can't overcome a couple of mistakes even against a bad team.

 

Of course, Detroit is a bad team that has been playing really well lately, too. They'd recently beaten Carolina twice and Tampa

They were meh for much of the season. But they only won ~5 games in March and are 4-6 in their last 10. They're losing to bottom dwellers. I think they suck.

[Tim]

Blackhawks suck?

They're just meh at this point. They're going to have games like this where they can't overcome a couple of mistakes even against a bad team.

 

Of course, Detroit is a bad team that has been playing really well lately, too. They'd recently beaten Carolina twice and Tampa

They were meh for much of the season. But they only won ~5 games in March and are 4-6 in their last 10. They're losing to bottom dwellers. I think they suck.

For some reason they just don't match up well with Nashville. And they clearly aren't as good as Tampa/Carolina/Florida. Since that was the bulk of their schedule in March, they sucked through that part of their schedule.

 

But yeah, they need progress from the young guys (some of whom also seem to be hitting a wall at this point)

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Well, that settles that

[squally1313]

Well, that settles that

Good news is that the Hawks have now scored 2 or less goals in 20 of the last 22 games played against Nashville, and you have two more games this week to take your free money on Hawks under 2.5.

[17 Seconds]

sounds like toews is back next season

[sweetpeteman]

 

Shaw is retiring due to concussions.

[Tim]

Glad Shaw is doing the right thing - he's had a scary amount of concussions over the years.

 

How does this impact next year? I forget if Shaw was a pending FA or if he had one more year. Will he be "retiring" onto the LTIR? Or is he actually retiring?

[squally1313]

Glad Shaw is doing the right thing - he's had a scary amount of concussions over the years.

 

How does this impact next year? I forget if Shaw was a pending FA or if he had one more year. Will he be "retiring" onto the LTIR? Or is he actually retiring?

This is said with minimal research, but it gives the Hawks a ton of cap room going into next year after he goes onto LTIR (a la Seabrook). However, we're still stuck with the Kane/Toews/Keith deals in a flat cap era, and we're probably more than 2 top players away from being an actual contender, so there's probably going to be a decision made between loading up on a couple top FAs and hoping Toews comes back healthy and everything breaks right, but then having to make tough decisions when Dach/Kubalik/Strome/Suter/Hagel/etc come due in a couple years, or just committing to the rebuild, using the space to take on bad contracts for picks, and letting the kids develop (at the risk of Kane/Keith/Toews declining significantly).

[sweetpeteman]

According to capfriendly he has one more year, so he's probably not officially retiring until after next year and will be on the LTIR next season.

[jersey cubs fan]

Glad Shaw is doing the right thing - he's had a scary amount of concussions over the years.

 

How does this impact next year? I forget if Shaw was a pending FA or if he had one more year. Will he be "retiring" onto the LTIR? Or is he actually retiring?

This is said with minimal research, but it gives the Hawks a ton of cap room going into next year after he goes onto LTIR (a la Seabrook). However, we're still stuck with the Kane/Toews/Keith deals in a flat cap era, and we're probably more than 2 top players away from being an actual contender, so there's probably going to be a decision made between loading up on a couple top FAs and hoping Toews comes back healthy and everything breaks right, but then having to make tough decisions when Dach/Kubalik/Strome/Suter/Hagel/etc come due in a couple years, or just committing to the rebuild, using the space to take on bad contracts for picks, and letting the kids develop (at the risk of Kane/Keith/Toews declining significantly).

I think it's clear they are committing to the future and just hoping for the best with the old guys over the next couple years. They aren't going to give it all up for the next Campbell or Hossa.

[squally1313]

Glad Shaw is doing the right thing - he's had a scary amount of concussions over the years.

 

How does this impact next year? I forget if Shaw was a pending FA or if he had one more year. Will he be "retiring" onto the LTIR? Or is he actually retiring?

This is said with minimal research, but it gives the Hawks a ton of cap room going into next year after he goes onto LTIR (a la Seabrook). However, we're still stuck with the Kane/Toews/Keith deals in a flat cap era, and we're probably more than 2 top players away from being an actual contender, so there's probably going to be a decision made between loading up on a couple top FAs and hoping Toews comes back healthy and everything breaks right, but then having to make tough decisions when Dach/Kubalik/Strome/Suter/Hagel/etc come due in a couple years, or just committing to the rebuild, using the space to take on bad contracts for picks, and letting the kids develop (at the risk of Kane/Keith/Toews declining significantly).

I think it's clear they are committing to the future and just hoping for the best with the old guys over the next couple years. They aren't going to give it all up for the next Campbell or Hossa.

Do you think Kane/Keith have already had that conversation about a trade? Obviously they have their NMC and are very comfortable in Chicago, but both guys are such competitors that I can't see them wanting to spend the next 4 years babysitting an upstart team and hoping they have some magic left the next time they might see a conference final.