College football hindsight season

[jersey cubs fan]

Ryan Day has been a John Lackey-esque red-ass about playing this season, and he's influencing people to make really bad decisions.

 

What's the possible harm in at least trying to play a season? What if the ACC, SEC, and Big 12 have somewhat normal seasons and the Big 10 ends up sitting on their butts?

 

The students are mostly on campus, the players have BEEN on campus for months. Hell they are even playing intramural sports up there. It was an extremely knee jerk reaction by the Big 10 to cancel that quickly. It's going to cost tens and tens of millions of dollars for those programs. Those athletic departments are going to have to cut numerous sports due to not playing. The only reason the Olympic sports are funded is because of football TV money. Given that the players were ALREADY THERE for the past few months, why in the world would they not even do a cursory attempt to play and see if it works out.

 

Oh, and here's the kicker, they want the players to STILL stay on campus and STILL do workouts and STILL go to team meetings because they might have a spring season when everyone knows they won't.

 

It was foolish to at least not TRY to have a season. If it doesn't look like it's going to work out then fine, shut it down, but to not even attempt it is a terrible mistake IMO.

 

I mean, the answer to this question is fairly obvious, right?

[OleMissCub]

 

I mean, the answer to this question is fairly obvious, right?

 

Not really.

 

You think football players are less safe from Covid because they're playing football as opposed to doing what college kids do like go out to bars or house parties or have sex with people off Tinder or whatever the hell they do these days? Considering that football players during a season spend almost all of their time in the athletic facility, I'd say they are much, much safer than a regular student. Not sure about the other schools but at Ole Miss they do 4 Covid tests every week. Does the general student population have access to those measures? Hell no.

 

All they had to do was push back the "season" like the other conferences did and wait and see what happens with the NFL because if the NFL can't pull it off then college football programs certainly can't.

[jersey cubs fan]

 

I mean, the answer to this question is fairly obvious, right?

 

Not really.

 

You think football players are less safe from Covid because they're playing football as opposed to doing what college kids do like go out to bars or house parties or have sex with people off Tinder or whatever the hell they do these days? Considering that football players during a season spend almost all of their time in the athletic facility, I'd say they are much, much safer than a regular student. Not sure about the other schools but at Ole Miss they do 4 Covid tests every week. Does the general student population have access to those measures? Hell no.

 

All they had to do was push back the "season" like the other conferences did and wait and see what happens with the NFL because if the NFL can't pull it off then college football programs certainly can't.

I'm saying the possible harm is further spreading a disease that has killed 175,000 americans and is still spreading and closing down schools left and right with outbreaks.

[NOLA]

 

I mean, the answer to this question is fairly obvious, right?

 

Not really.

 

You think football players are less safe from Covid because they're playing football as opposed to doing what college kids do like go out to bars or house parties or have sex with people off Tinder or whatever the hell they do these days? Considering that football players during a season spend almost all of their time in the athletic facility, I'd say they are much, much safer than a regular student. Not sure about the other schools but at Ole Miss they do 4 Covid tests every week. Does the general student population have access to those measures? Hell no.

 

All they had to do was push back the "season" like the other conferences did and wait and see what happens with the NFL because if the NFL can't pull it off then college football programs certainly can't.

I'm saying the possible harm is further spreading a disease that has killed 175,000 americans and is still spreading and closing down schools left and right with outbreaks.

Of course, but if students are going to be allowed on campus, then players are much better off in a structured setting with constant testing and reporting to coaches daily. If campuses are closed, that’s another story.

[OleMissCub]

 

I mean, the answer to this question is fairly obvious, right?

 

Not really.

 

You think football players are less safe from Covid because they're playing football as opposed to doing what college kids do like go out to bars or house parties or have sex with people off Tinder or whatever the hell they do these days? Considering that football players during a season spend almost all of their time in the athletic facility, I'd say they are much, much safer than a regular student. Not sure about the other schools but at Ole Miss they do 4 Covid tests every week. Does the general student population have access to those measures? Hell no.

 

All they had to do was push back the "season" like the other conferences did and wait and see what happens with the NFL because if the NFL can't pull it off then college football programs certainly can't.

I'm saying the possible harm is further spreading a disease that has killed 175,000 americans and is still spreading and closing down schools left and right with outbreaks.

 

Then completely shut college campuses down if that's your concern. Shut all schools down while you're at it. Less than 5,000 people under the age of 45 have died of Covid in America...out of 190,000,000 Americans in that age range. College kids are going to get Covid. You cannot stop it. Schools being open isn't the issue with the spread, it's the fact that 15 or 20 year old kids are going to congregate and do whatever they do.

[Derwood]

A study predicted that Penn State will (conservatively) see 2500 cases and 2 deaths this fall. If any of those 2500 are football players, and those players travel to another state and sweat/spit/breathe on other players who then infect THEIR campus.....this isn’t hard to figure out, OMC

[OleMissCub]

A study predicted that Penn State will (conservatively) see 2500 cases and 2 deaths this fall. If any of those 2500 are football players, and those players travel to another state and sweat/spit/breathe on other players who then infect THEIR campus.....this isn’t hard to figure out, OMC

 

Literally the same could be said for ANY OTHER COLLEGE STUDENT. You don't think college students travel to other college campuses and hang out? Good grief. Better ban automobiles. Don't want to make it any easier for this thing to spread.

[Derwood]

A study predicted that Penn State will (conservatively) see 2500 cases and 2 deaths this fall. If any of those 2500 are football players, and those players travel to another state and sweat/spit/breathe on other players who then infect THEIR campus.....this isn’t hard to figure out, OMC

 

Literally the same could be said for ANY OTHER COLLEGE STUDENT. You don't think college students travel to other college campuses and hang out? Good grief. Better ban automobiles. Don't want to make it any easier for this thing to spread.

 

Oh, you’re that guy

[OleMissCub]

A study predicted that Penn State will (conservatively) see 2500 cases and 2 deaths this fall. If any of those 2500 are football players, and those players travel to another state and sweat/spit/breathe on other players who then infect THEIR campus.....this isn’t hard to figure out, OMC

 

Literally the same could be said for ANY OTHER COLLEGE STUDENT. You don't think college students travel to other college campuses and hang out? Good grief. Better ban automobiles. Don't want to make it any easier for this thing to spread.

 

Oh, you’re that guy

 

Yes, a guy who realizes that college football being played is actually keeping these guys and, by proxy, their campuses safer by the fact that they are tested FOUR horsefeathering TIMES A WEEK

 

What other 20 years olds in the rest of the world get that sort of testing and oversight??

[jersey cubs fan]

Then completely shut college campuses down if that's your concern. Shut all schools down while you're at it. Less than 5,000 people under the age of 45 have died of Covid in America...out of 190,000,000 Americans in that age range. College kids are going to get Covid. You cannot stop it. Schools being open isn't the issue with the spread, it's the fact that 15 or 20 year old kids are going to congregate and do whatever they do.

 

It's this moronic "just open everything and deal with the fallout no healthy young people are dying so who cares" ignorant conservative nonsense that is the reason we have been dealing with this problem non stop for 5 months.

[jersey cubs fan]

 

Not really.

 

You think football players are less safe from Covid because they're playing football as opposed to doing what college kids do like go out to bars or house parties or have sex with people off Tinder or whatever the hell they do these days? Considering that football players during a season spend almost all of their time in the athletic facility, I'd say they are much, much safer than a regular student. Not sure about the other schools but at Ole Miss they do 4 Covid tests every week. Does the general student population have access to those measures? Hell no.

 

All they had to do was push back the "season" like the other conferences did and wait and see what happens with the NFL because if the NFL can't pull it off then college football programs certainly can't.

I'm saying the possible harm is further spreading a disease that has killed 175,000 americans and is still spreading and closing down schools left and right with outbreaks.

Of course, but if students are going to be allowed on campus, then players are much better off in a structured setting with constant testing and reporting to coaches daily. If campuses are closed, that’s another story.

How naive are you to think players are better off in structured setting of college freaking football? These programs are run by neanderthals that think catching covid will only make you tougher. The only structure is coach worship idiocy.

[OleMissCub]

Then completely shut college campuses down if that's your concern. Shut all schools down while you're at it. Less than 5,000 people under the age of 45 have died of Covid in America...out of 190,000,000 Americans in that age range. College kids are going to get Covid. You cannot stop it. Schools being open isn't the issue with the spread, it's the fact that 15 or 20 year old kids are going to congregate and do whatever they do.

 

It's this moronic "just open everything and deal with the fallout no healthy young people are dying so who cares" ignorant conservative nonsense that is the reason we have been dealing with this problem non stop for 5 months.

 

Well that's not my mindset. We've had dozens of deaths on the Reservation. It's been devastating. Lots and lots of people I knew. My whole point is that if you aren't going to shut the colleges down then don't shut football down because the players are much, much safer than your average college student. I don't see how that's even debatable.

[OleMissCub]

I'm saying the possible harm is further spreading a disease that has killed 175,000 americans and is still spreading and closing down schools left and right with outbreaks.

Of course, but if students are going to be allowed on campus, then players are much better off in a structured setting with constant testing and reporting to coaches daily. If campuses are closed, that’s another story.

How naive are you to think players are better off in structured setting of college freaking football? These programs are run by neanderthals that think catching covid will only make you tougher. The only structure is coach worship idiocy.

 

hahaha good grief.

 

You really think they are at more exposure than the average dopey bong smoking college student or sorority girl who can't wait to go out to the club with her girls??? holy horsefeathers you are way, way off base on that opinion

[NOLA]

I'm saying the possible harm is further spreading a disease that has killed 175,000 americans and is still spreading and closing down schools left and right with outbreaks.

Of course, but if students are going to be allowed on campus, then players are much better off in a structured setting with constant testing and reporting to coaches daily. If campuses are closed, that’s another story.

How naive are you to think players are better off in structured setting of college freaking football? These programs are run by neanderthals that think catching covid will only make you tougher. The only structure is coach worship idiocy.

What in the holy horsefeathers are you talking about? I disagree with some of what OMC is saying but he is dead on with this point. The day to day routine of a college football player in season is structured pretty much all day every day between classes, study halls, practices, weights and conditioning, team meetings and of course, games. This, along with the fact that coaches have an incentive to closely monitor their players to keep them healthy and eligible AND the constant testing, how can you possibly argue that players are better off without all this?

[OleMissCub]

To think that schools with as much as 100 million dollars at stake are going to be flippant with testing and player safety is LUDICROUS.

[NonProfitCow]

To think that schools with as much as 100 million dollars at stake are going to be flippant with testing and player safety is LUDICROUS.

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[OleMissCub]

To think that schools with as much as 100 million dollars at stake are going to be flippant with testing and player safety is LUDICROUS.

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Use your words if you have a point to make

[NonProfitCow]

To think that schools with as much as 100 million dollars at stake are going to be flippant with testing and player safety is LUDICROUS.

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Use your words if you have a point to make

They don't give a horsefeathers about their players.

[NOLA]

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Use your words if you have a point to make

They don't give a horsefeathers about their players.

Even if you think that’s true, you’re missing the point. Coaches, ADs and administrators all have significant interest in keeping their best players on the field, if for no other reasons than financial ones. They’re going to keep the players as safe as they can to keep their guys playing.

[OleMissCub]

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Use your words if you have a point to make

They don't give a horsefeathers about their players.

 

OK, so let’s assume you’re right and 100% of coaches and AD’s are just evil greedy cigar smoking rich dudes who DON’T care about their players. How does that go against my point?

[Janelle-Alexis]

You really think they are at more exposure than the average dopey bong smoking college student or sorority girl who can't wait to go out to the club with her girls??? holy horsefeathers you are way, way off base on that opinion

 

Kids are stupid, they're going to get sick anyway. May as well let them get sick while entertaining me. College football fans are the worst people.

[OleMissCub]

You really think they are at more exposure than the average dopey bong smoking college student or sorority girl who can't wait to go out to the club with her girls??? holy horsefeathers you are way, way off base on that opinion

 

Kids are stupid, they're going to get sick anyway. May as well let them get sick while entertaining me. College football fans are the worst people.

 

Way to miss the point fella. This could be about any sport or any social club or any organization that tests someone 4 times a week and has doctors at their very beck and call. THAT kind of oversight and access to medical attention makes them safer than the average student. How you or anyone else can deny that is merely doing so because they don’t want to admit they’re wrong. And the players themselves WANT to be there. So what could possibly be your problem? Jesus, have you people actually paid attention to what the players are saying about this? They want to be playing and they recognize that they are safer in that environment than sitting on their ass back home.

[jersey cubs fan]

Suggesting players are safer under the care of the people who control college football is next level stupidity.

[OleMissCub]

Suggesting players are safer under the care of the people who control college football is next level stupidity.

 

Doubling down, eh? Who is safer:

 

Student A: tested 4 times a week and is around actual doctors every single day of the week. If he tests positive he is placed under strict monitored quarantine by the school for 14 days.

 

Student B: 0 tests ever. Only sees a doctor every few months to get their adderall refilled. Goes to the bars at night. Never wears his mask because Covid is a hoax. If he feels sick it’s not Covid, it’s just a cold. Goes to the bars.

 

You’re so right, it’s definitely Student B.

[NonProfitCow]

Suggesting players are safer under the care of the people who control college football is next level stupidity.

 

Doubling down, eh? Who is safer:

 

Student A: tested 4 times a week and is around actual doctors every single day of the week. If he tests positive he is placed under strict monitored quarantine by the school for 14 days.

 

Student B: 0 tests ever. Only sees a doctor every few months to get their adderall refilled. Goes to the bars at night. Never wears his mask because Covid is a hoax. If he feels sick it’s not Covid, it’s just a cold. Goes to the bars.

 

You’re so right, it’s definitely Student B.

You seem to have left out lots of other possible student scenarios for some reason.