Chicago Bears offseason

[BigbadB]

I have never understood the argument, at least in the first few rounds of the draft, of risking losing a player you really like and you have a need for by trading down a few spots with the hope that he's still there and getting another later pick. If Kmet is your guy, it's too risky to lose him for a late round pick someone would have given you.

 

Which was a question I pondered before the draft began. If Kmet is there, do you pass him by given the instability of the TE position on this team. I read that there were rumors that Pace was thinking about trading up to get someone. Whether that was Kmet or not, I'm not sure. Maybe it was Hurts. I'm just glad he didn't do that, especially if it was Kmet that he didn't want to risk being drafted before 43.

 

I don't blame Pace for drafting Trubisky. I do blame him for trading up to get him. That was a foolish move considering that if someone did jump the Bears to take him, Watson still would have been there to take with the 3rd pick. Maybe Watson wasn't the right kind of pedigree for the style offense they wanted. Maybe then you trade down and pick up some picks and then get Mahomes a bit later. I don't think there is any way to possibly defend the trade up, so I'm not going to say Pace does no wrong. But, at least he didn't give up more draft capital to move up to draft someone this time. At least not yet.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I dont get the hate towards Kmet. I may be higher on him then I should be, but he was far from a reach at 43, and like others have pointed out, we have no bona fide #1 at the pos

As a "hater" I think the thing thats tough about him, as a fan, to get excited about is lack of anything that really stands out. Like he doesn't appear to have tons of weaknesses, but also nothing that goes wow.

 

 

his size doenst stand out? Hes the same size as Gronkowski

[WrigleyField 22]

I dont get the hate towards Kmet. I may be higher on him then I should be, but he was far from a reach at 43, and like others have pointed out, we have no bona fide #1 at the pos

As a "hater" I think the thing thats tough about him, as a fan, to get excited about is lack of anything that really stands out. Like he doesn't appear to have tons of weaknesses, but also nothing that goes wow.

 

 

his size doenst stand out? Hes the same size as Gronkowski

Well size is most useful in context with the athletic testing. Together I think he checks the mark in both categories, but not like "wow" combination of size/athleticism.

[Wilson A2000]

I have never understood the argument, at least in the first few rounds of the draft, of risking losing a player you really like and you have a need for by trading down a few spots with the hope that he's still there and getting another later pick. If Kmet is your guy, it's too risky to lose him for a late round pick someone would have given you.

 

I don't blame Pace for drafting Trubisky. I do blame him for trading up to get him. That was a foolish move considering that if someone did jump the Bears to take him, Watson still would have been there to take with the 3rd pick. Maybe Watson wasn't the right kind of pedigree for the style offense they wanted. Maybe then you trade down and pick up some picks and then get Mahomes a bit later. I don't think there is any way to possibly defend the trade up, so I'm not going to say Pace does no wrong. But, at least he didn't give up more draft capital to move up to draft someone this time. At least not yet.

 

I didn’t mind Pace moving up to get a QB. The problem was that he passed on two potential HOF QBs. I wouldn't have drafted Maholmes where Trubisky was picked because he wasn’t on my radar, but Watson was and Pace never really had him in mind. It’s going to cost Pace his job and will set back the team 7-10 years.

[UMFan83]

Bears don’t have a glaring need at WR but what’s the view on Donovan Peoples-Jones? 5 star talent that never quite hit his potential at Michigan partly due to injuries, sometimes iffy QB play and his own inconsistencies.

 

But I think he’s a good route runner, moderately fast and can makes catches in traffic. I’m surprised he’s lasted this long...production wasn’t completely there in college but all the tools are still there.

[raw]

Best talent on the Board Day 3 for the Bears. Not going to include any TEs or CBs, because I don't see the Bears picking another of either.

 

Curtis Weaver, Edge, Boise State

Akeem Davis-Gaither, LB, Appalachian State

Saadiq Charles, OT, LSU

Bradley Anae, Edge, Utah

Prince Tega Wanogho, OT, Auburn

Kenny Willikes, Edge, Michigan State

Ben Bredeson, OG, Michigan

K'Von Wallace, S, Clemson

Tyler Johnson, WR, Minnesota

Tyler Biadazs, C/OG, Wisconsin

Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR, Michigan

Logan Stenberg, OG, Kentucky

Ben Bartch, OT, St John

Shane Lemieux, OG, Oregon

John Simpson, OG Clemson

Darnell Mooney, WR, Tulane

Geno Stone, S, Iowa

Anthony McFarland, RB, Maryland

 

Kenny Robinson, S, West Virginia

Hakeem Adeniji, OT, Kansas

James Lynch, DL, Baylor

Brycen Hopkins, TE, Purdue. What the hell, I'd take him at this point for the future U. 10 TEs, why not 11?

Natane Muti, OG, Fresno State

Rashad Lawrence, DL, LSU

[WrigleyField 22]

Bears don’t have a glaring need at WR but what’s the view on Donovan Peoples-Jones? 5 star talent that never quite hit his potential at Michigan partly due to injuries, sometimes iffy QB play and his own inconsistencies.

 

But I think he’s a good route runner, moderately and can makes catches in traffic. I’m surprised he’s lasted this long...production wasn’t completely there in college but all the tools are still there.

If they go WR I'd really want it to be a burner type, plus points if they have return potential (Cohen and Patterson will both be FA next year)

[minnesotacubsfan]

Bears don’t have a glaring need at WR but what’s the view on Donovan Peoples-Jones? 5 star talent that never quite hit his potential at Michigan partly due to injuries, sometimes iffy QB play and his own inconsistencies.

 

But I think he’s a good route runner, moderately and can makes catches in traffic. I’m surprised he’s lasted this long...production wasn’t completely there in college but all the tools are still there.

If they go WR I'd really want it to be a burner type, plus points if they have return potential (Cohen and Patterson will both be FA next year)

 

Who would that be?

 

also, Brycen is off the board, but interestingly Fromm and Weaver are both still there, but I think I'd still grab Adams from Washington if it were up to the 3, a big run blocking tackle for the future

[UMFan83]

Bears don’t have a glaring need at WR but what’s the view on Donovan Peoples-Jones? 5 star talent that never quite hit his potential at Michigan partly due to injuries, sometimes iffy QB play and his own inconsistencies.

 

But I think he’s a good route runner, moderately and can makes catches in traffic. I’m surprised he’s lasted this long...production wasn’t completely there in college but all the tools are still there.

If they go WR I'd really want it to be a burner type, plus points if they have return potential (Cohen and Patterson will both be FA next year)

 

Yeah that’s fair, I could accept that. I just think DPJ has the upside of a number 1 but with considerable risk which is definitely something teams look for in the 5th Round. Or at least teams that have no glaring holes that have strangely not been addressed so far (cough OLine)

[WrigleyField 22]

Bears don’t have a glaring need at WR but what’s the view on Donovan Peoples-Jones? 5 star talent that never quite hit his potential at Michigan partly due to injuries, sometimes iffy QB play and his own inconsistencies.

 

But I think he’s a good route runner, moderately and can makes catches in traffic. I’m surprised he’s lasted this long...production wasn’t completely there in college but all the tools are still there.

If they go WR I'd really want it to be a burner type, plus points if they have return potential (Cohen and Patterson will both be FA next year)

 

Who would that be?

 

also, Brycen is off the board, but interestingly Fromm and Weaver are both still there, but I think I'd still grab Adams from Washington if it were up to the 3, a big run blocking tackle for the future

Not sure at this point. But if a 5th or 6th rounder can come in a beat Wims or Ridley, so be it, they're more unknown than anything at this point.

[WrigleyField 22]

Tyler Biadasz is a guy who could still be sitting there and would help out IOL depth.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Tyler Biadasz is a guy who could still be sitting there and would help out IOL depth.

 

yea, I thought about him when I posted about Adams, but Biadasz isn't very quick. I'm not sure I'd take him tbh, I think Adams is a better bet

 

eta: nvm, Biadasz is gone

[raw]

Best talent on the Board Day 3 for the Bears. Not going to include any TEs or CBs, because I don't see the Bears picking another of either.

 

Curtis Weaver, Edge, Boise State

Akeem Davis-Gaither, LB, Appalachian State

Saadiq Charles, OT, LSU

Bradley Anae, Edge, Utah

Prince Tega Wanogho, OT, Auburn

Kenny Willikes, Edge, Michigan State

Ben Bredeson, OG, Michigan

K'Von Wallace, S, Clemson

Tyler Johnson, WR, Minnesota

Tyler Biadazs, C/OG, Wisconsin

Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR, Michigan

Logan Stenberg, OG, Kentucky

Ben Bartch, OT, St John

Shane Lemieux, OG, Oregon

John Simpson, OG Clemson

Darnell Mooney, WR, Tulane

Geno Stone, S, Iowa

Anthony McFarland, RB, Maryland

 

Kenny Robinson, S, West Virginia

Hakeem Adeniji, OT, Kansas

James Lynch, DL, Baylor

Brycen Hopkins, TE, Purdue. What the hell, I'd take him at this point for the future U. 10 TEs, why not 11?

Natane Muti, OG, Fresno State

Rashad Lawrence, DL, LSU

 

Curtis Weaver, Edge, Boise State

Bradley Anae, Edge, Utah

Prince Tega Wanogho, OT, Auburn

Kenny Willikes, Edge, Michigan State

Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR, Michigan

Darnell Mooney, WR, Tulane

Geno Stone, S, Iowa

Kenny Robinson, S, West Virginia

Hakeem Adeniji, OT, Kansas

 

For the love of God, just don't pick Jake Fromm

[minnesotacubsfan]

Thanks for the jinx Raw

[UMFan83]

Bears just traded up 8 spots and on the clock

[UMFan83]

And it’s a DE. Travis Gipson

[WrigleyField 22]

Like the pick. Wonder what they traded.

[Splendid Splinter]

And it’s a DE. Travis Gipson

 

Very similar to RRH when he was drafted.

[jersey cubs fan]

STOP TRADING AWAY PICKS YOU DUMB MOTHER

[UMFan83]

Like the pick. Wonder what they traded.

 

Next years 4th. We keep the upcoming 5th I believe (163)

[WrigleyField 22]

Sounds like we still have the other 5th Rd pick. Traded next year's 4th for this pick.

[WrigleyField 22]

STOP TRADING AWAY PICKS YOU DUMB MOTHER

Meh it's one for one and who knows what the evaluation process looks like next year cuz of covid.

[UMFan83]

Sounds like we still have the other 5th Rd pick. Traded next year's 4th for this pick.

 

I’ll take it. We have a bunch of picks next year I believe

 

Edit: though I guess the value chart shows that the bears lost the trade

[Splendid Splinter]

Sounds like we still have the other 5th Rd pick. Traded next year's 4th for this pick.

 

I’ll take it. We have a bunch of picks next year I believe

 

Edit: though I guess the value chart shows that the bears lost the trade

 

Nope. We just have rd 1-3,5,6 pick for next years draft. We should be getting some comp picks, but I think they're all 6th rounders.

[BigbadB]

If Fromm is still there at 163.....