Chicago Bulls offseason

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NBA Mock Draft 2019

 

7 BULLS

Coby White | N. Carolina | Fr | PG | 6-5

 

Perhaps it should be unsurprising that the leading scorer in the history of North Carolina high school basketball scored big as a freshman at UNC. But, still, I'm not sure many expected White, a sub-20 prospect in the Class of 2018, to pass Michael Jordan on the school's freshman scoring list in early March and play as big of a role as he played for a North Carolina team that earned a No. 1 seed in the NCAA Tournament. Before the season, White was considered a 6-5 shooting guard. But he showed the ability this season to effectively play with or without the ball, which made him an even more intriguing prospect and an obvious one-and-done player.

This may not be a bad pick.

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Who doesn't love that hair???????????

 

[UMFan83]

I look at picks 3-9 (mostly) as players that have superstar upside but low floor so I'd be happy if it was Garland or White. Heck I wouldn't even be angry with Reddish I don't think.

[UMFan83]

I typed up this suggestion for NBA Draft reform on realgm and no one really bit on it. To me this makes so much sense to completely kill tanking yet still give teams not only a fair shot at getting a top pick but the ability to anticipate years ahead of time when you will be getting a top pick. Similar to the "Draft Wheel" that Simmons always talks about but adds a luck factor into it.

 

I would put it in 5 groups of 6 teams, and within those tiers you have a mini lottery to determine your pick.

 

Example:

 

Group 1: Milwaukee, Phoenix, Toronto, Dallas, Philadelphia, New Orleans

Group 2: Boston, Memphis, Indiana, Minnesota, Brooklyn, Los Angeles Lakers

Group 3: Orlando, Sacramento, Detroit, Los Angeles Clippers, Charlotte, San Antonio

Group 4: Miami, Oklahoma City, Washington, Utah, Atlanta, Houston

Group 5: Chicago, Portland, Cleveland, Denver, New York, Golden State

 

The groups would rotate each year and teams stay grouped together

 

Example: Group 1 gets picks 1-6, Group 2 gets picks 7-12, Group 3 gets picks 13-18, Group 4 gets picks 19-24, Group 5 gets picks 25-30

 

And then the next year group 1 moves to the back, and Group 2 has a shot at 1-6. Then within the groups there is a lottery to determine draft slots.

 

Because I'm a nerd I am going to use a random number generator to show how the draft order would look with my sample groups

 

1. Toronto

2. Dallas

3. Milwaukee

4. Philadelphia

5. New Orleans

6. Phoenix

7. Minnesota

8. Boston

9. Indiana

10. Memphis

11. Los Angeles Lakers

12. Brooklyn

13. Detroit

14. Charlotte

15. Orlando

16. San Antonio

17. Los Angeles Clippers

18. Sacramento

19. Miami

20. Utah

21. Oklahoma City

22. Washington

23. Atlanta

24. Houston

25. Chicago

26. Portland

27. Denver

28. New York

29. Golden State

30. Cleveland

[Old Style]

No offense but that's a stupid horsefeathering idea.

[UMFan83]

No offense but that's a stupid horsefeathering idea.

 

None taken. Why?

[Andy]

If you want to get rid of the draft (which would be interesting for a whole host of reasons), then just get rid of it. These insanely convoluted 'solutions', which included that stupid wheel (the league is going to expand at some point, what then?), never come close to making any sense.

[squally1313]

The only good draft idea is the one where, from the moment you are mathematically eliminated, you start counting your wins, and whoever has the most wins under that rule gets the number 1 pick in the draft.

 

Also would be fine getting rid of it. You'd have to eliminate individual salary limitations, but would make it super interesting.

[WrigleyField 22]

The only good draft idea is the one where, from the moment you are mathematically eliminated, you start counting your wins, and whoever has the most wins under that rule gets the number 1 pick in the draft.

 

Also would be fine getting rid of it. You'd have to eliminate individual salary limitations, but would make it super interesting.

That still induces a pretty good incentive to tank really hard for a good chunk of the season. Isn't the worst team still not mathematically out of it until like February usually?

[WrigleyField 22]

Basketball's real issue is that nothing in draft or FA can really solve for parity issues. The best thing they could do in that regards is a premier league style club demotion scenario and let crappy teams loan out star players as well.

[squally1313]

The only good draft idea is the one where, from the moment you are mathematically eliminated, you start counting your wins, and whoever has the most wins under that rule gets the number 1 pick in the draft.

 

Also would be fine getting rid of it. You'd have to eliminate individual salary limitations, but would make it super interesting.

That still induces a pretty good incentive to tank really hard for a good chunk of the season. Isn't the worst team still not mathematically out of it until like February usually?

 

There aren't many teams that are going to tank straight out of the gate. And if you're bad enough to get eliminated super early in the season, you probably aren't suddenly going to become good enough to rack up enough wins to get much of a head start.

[UMFan83]

If you want to get rid of the draft (which would be interesting for a whole host of reasons), then just get rid of it. These insanely convoluted 'solutions', which included that stupid wheel (the league is going to expand at some point, what then?), never come close to making any sense.

 

Point taken about expansion. There would have to be something built in to account for that.

 

I don’t to eliminate the draft but I’d like a system where in order to get a superstar you dont have to tank and still get very lucky. If you can find a system that accomplished that I’m all for it. At least in my idea you know that regardless of record, every 5 years you are getting a top 6 pick. You don’t have to sit players out with phantom injuries, or trade away useful players to bottom out. You just wait 5 years and you’ll get your 16.7% chance.

 

If it’s stupid to make complex draft reform that’s fine but I think my idea somewhat makes sense and accomplishes the objectives I mentioned.

Edited May 15, 2019 by UMFan83

[squally1313]

Basketball's real issue is that nothing in draft or FA can really solve for parity issues. The best thing they could do in that regards is a premier league style club demotion scenario and let crappy teams loan out star players as well.

 

I think getting rid of max salaries could make things a lot more interesting. We've seen how important superstars can be, but right now they can only be a certain % of the cap. If someone like Lebron knows he can get a max offer from every team in basketball, of course him and all the other stars are going to flock to the big markets. But if a Detroit or a OKC or whatever wants to throw 75% of their cap space at him, could make the decision a little different.

[WrigleyField 22]

Basketball's real issue is that nothing in draft or FA can really solve for parity issues. The best thing they could do in that regards is a premier league style club demotion scenario and let crappy teams loan out star players as well.

 

I think getting rid of max salaries could make things a lot more interesting. We've seen how important superstars can be, but right now they can only be a certain % of the cap. If someone like Lebron knows he can get a max offer from every team in basketball, of course him and all the other stars are going to flock to the big markets. But if a Detroit or a OKC or whatever wants to throw 75% of their cap space at him, could make the decision a little different.

I've long liked that idea but realistically the vast majority of voting player association members benefit greatly with the max salary. And the owners aren't gonna get rid of the cap.

[Regular Show]

NBA Mock Draft 2019

 

7 BULLS

Coby White | N. Carolina | Fr | PG | 6-5

 

Perhaps it should be unsurprising that the leading scorer in the history of North Carolina high school basketball scored big as a freshman at UNC. But, still, I'm not sure many expected White, a sub-20 prospect in the Class of 2018, to pass Michael Jordan on the school's freshman scoring list in early March and play as big of a role as he played for a North Carolina team that earned a No. 1 seed in the NCAA Tournament. Before the season, White was considered a 6-5 shooting guard. But he showed the ability this season to effectively play with or without the ball, which made him an even more intriguing prospect and an obvious one-and-done player.

This may not be a bad pick.

 

I agree and I've watched him a decent amount. Not a PG really -- he's more of a combo guard. He can make plays and setup teammates, but looks to score first.

 

The jumpshot is inconsistent. Still very raw and has lots of area to improve. He's a good athlete, but not an amazing athlete.

 

I think we're taking Cam Reddish if he's available. GarPax and this Bulls FO loves Duke players. I don't like Reddish and think that would be a mistake.

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Any chance the Bulls can trade for Mike Conley and still keep their 7th pick to draft White?

[Regular Show]

Any chance the Bulls can trade for Mike Conley and still keep their 7th pick to draft White?

 

I seriously doubt it. We don't have that many trade assets unfortunately.

 

Memphis is taking Ja Morant so they have zero interest in Kris Dunn. I like Conley, but I think some other teams will push harder to acquire him like Utah.

[Cubswin11]

Any chance the Bulls can trade for Mike Conley and still keep their 7th pick to draft White?

The Bulls shouldn’t be making a move like this yet, imo. Conley is owed a ton and like 32 with injury history. They aren’t a Conley away. Take a guy at 7, keep trying to figure out what exactly they got in the younger guys and maybe add a middle priced FA or two. Best case things break right and it’s a top ~5 seed in the east, worst case it’s missed playoffs again and try the lottery. They aren’t close to contending (short of being able to recruit a big FA), I don’t see why a Conley move makes sense.

Edited May 20, 2019 by Cubswin11

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Rumor is that the Bulls want to trade the #7 pick for Lonzo Ball. Please no. Hopefully it’s the Lakers leaking false info.

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Rumor is that the Bulls want to trade the #7 pick for Lonzo Ball. Please no. Hopefully it’s the Lakers leaking false info.

 

I hope this is just a rumor. I want nothing to do with Lonzo Ball. He sucks and can't shoot.

 

There's no point in bringing Jason Kidd in as a coach if you plan on moving him.

[Banedon]

Man I miss this era of the NBA....

 

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[Derwood]

Rumor is that the Bulls want to trade the #7 pick for Lonzo Ball. Please no. Hopefully it’s the Lakers leaking false info.

 

And here I thought my interest was already at 0%

[WrigleyField 22]

Yea the Bulls aren't actually dog horsefeathers at drafting so it makes sense they want to trade the pick.

[Brian]

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Jimmy loves hard ass Boylen so much he's going to leave money on the table to come back

[raw]

I actually like the way this draft is setting up for the Bulls. After 2, all these picks are about hunches and fit anyway. At 7, I think the Bulls will end up with their choice of the 2 remaining from Garland, Hunter, Culver, Reddish or White. I'm fine with any of those 5. So, I don't think a trade up would be necessary though I understand if the team really likes Garland or Culver more than the others, which would likely require a move up to 4-5.