Other Division Series games

[jersey cubs fan]

i'm kind of rooting for the yankees and i don't really know why

 

my preferences for winning World Series

 

1. Cubs

 

 

 

 

2. Yankees

3. Astros

 

 

4. Indians

 

5. Dodgers

6. Nationals

Terrible people

[LeonDurham]

Brett freaking Gardner had an epic at bat. Better than any cub has had the entire series.

[LeonDurham]

Chapman 2 innings is a mistake. He has the most hittable 99 mph fastball ever.

[Soul]

That’s it. CLE is done. Up 2-0 and considered a powerhouse, they blow 3 games and are DONE.

[Brian]

Ouch @ Indians last 2 playoff series

[Derwood]

Yikes. Bye, tribe

[Brian]

HOLY horsefeathers at that slo-mo close up of Chapman's scream

[Cubswin11]

Cleveland sucks Edited October 12, 2017 by Cubswin11

[CubInOK]

HOLY horsefeathers at that slo-mo close up of Chapman's scream

That's what he looks like when he's mad at his woman.

[We Got The Whole 9]

Yanks have reminded me of our 2015 team all year. Not in how the team is constructed but in how they are supposedly a 'year early' and are just loaded with mostly young, quality players.

 

That trade for Gregorius is turning into quite a shrewd move by Cashman and that pen is just filthy. Wish we had it, honestly.

[17 Seconds]

i wouldn't say they're "loaded" with young players, as least not compared to what the cubs had

[We Got The Whole 9]

i wouldn't say they're "loaded" with young players, as least not compared to what the cubs had

They're just constructed differently but they did get 20 fWAR out of Judge, Sanchez, Severino, Montgomery. They have several young players ready to step into starting roles next year as well, like Frazier, Bird, Torres - all look to be impact players not JAGs.

 

They're pretty loaded, as is, with young talent, and they're about to add a lot more over the next couple seasons.

 

Way I see it. Again, comparing them to 2015 Cubs, and even stretching to include Rizzo and Hendricks who were 25 and 26

 

Judge vs Bryant

Sanchez vs Rizzo

Severino vs Hendricks

Montgomery vs Russell

Bird vs Schwarber

Torres vs Baez

Frazier vs Soler

 

They stack up very well on a war basis IMO

[Cubswin11]

Also, Sanchez is only a catcher by proxy. He's going to have to move off the position

[We Got The Whole 9]

Also, Sanchez is only a catcher by proxy. He's going to have to move off the position

Even so, he hit 50 HR in his first 160 career games. DH, 1B, who GAF - that's a very special hitter.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Gary Sanchez as a first baseman would have been tied for 11th among qualifying first basemen in wRC+

 

Greg Bird is a worse hitter than that and is definitely a first baseman

 

Torres is going to be the definition of just another guy

 

Frazier is ginger Almora

 

Jordan Montgomery has more in common with Mike Montgomery than any core Cubs player you want to compare him to

[We Got The Whole 9]

Gary Sanchez as a first baseman would have been tied for 11th among qualifying first basemen in wRC+

 

Greg Bird is a worse hitter than that and is definitely a first baseman

 

Torres is going to be the definition of just another guy

 

Frazier is ginger Almora

 

Jordan Montgomery has more in common with Mike Montgomery than any core Cubs player you want to compare him to

Hendricks put up 3.5 in 180 IP at 25 y/o

 

J Montgomery put up 2.7 in 150 IP at 24

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Gary Sanchez as a first baseman would have been tied for 11th among qualifying first basemen in wRC+

 

Greg Bird is a worse hitter than that and is definitely a first baseman

 

Torres is going to be the definition of just another guy

 

Frazier is ginger Almora

 

Jordan Montgomery has more in common with Mike Montgomery than any core Cubs player you want to compare him to

Hendricks put up 3.5 in 180 IP at 25 y/o

 

J Montgomery put up 2.7 in 150 IP at 24

 

He only had 150 IP because he averaged like 3 innings per start. Montgomery isn't garbage, but he's not Kyle Hendricks(who is an outlier of outliers). He's a guy you hope you don't need to start Game 4 of a playoff series.

[We Got The Whole 9]

Gary Sanchez as a first baseman would have been tied for 11th among qualifying first basemen in wRC+

 

Greg Bird is a worse hitter than that and is definitely a first baseman

 

Torres is going to be the definition of just another guy

 

Frazier is ginger Almora

 

Jordan Montgomery has more in common with Mike Montgomery than any core Cubs player you want to compare him to

Hendricks put up 3.5 in 180 IP at 25 y/o

 

J Montgomery put up 2.7 in 150 IP at 24

 

He only had 150 IP because he averaged like 3 innings per start. Montgomery isn't garbage, but he's not Kyle Hendricks(who is an outlier of outliers). He's a guy you hope you don't need to start Game 4 of a playoff series.

 

This simply isn't even close to true

 

JM 2017 - 5.3 IP per start

KH 2015 - 5.6 IP per start

 

On a strictly FWAR basis, these groups of players are very comparable and that's even with me stretching to include a couple of 26 y/o

 

I also don't know how we can proclaim any prospect to be a JAG in a topsy-turvy league in which Didi Gregorius and Scooter Gennett hit more HR in a single season than they did in their entire milb careers combined.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

5.3 IP/start is like 10th percentile for qualified starters, 5.6 IP/start is like 50th. And again, Kyle Hendricks' 2015 also looks like a guy who belongs at the end of a rotation. The fact that Hendricks took a stratospheric leap forward is not a positive thing for Montgomery, who lacks Hendricks' super-elite command(which leads to his soft contact and HR suppression that Montgomery has never demonstrated at any level).

 

If you're talking about Torres, you can look back through 3 years of the minor league forum of me talking up Torres as overrated. He's probably not a shortstop, and he doesn't have a great hit tool, game power, or plate discipline. Just like Montgomery he's probably going to be a perfectly cromulent player, but those types of players are the ones that are freely available on the market every year. It's great when you can have them for cheap like the Yankees do and the Cubs do with say, Happ, but they are not pillars of future pennant winners.

[Ding Dong Johnson]