Bulls offseason

[davell]

They'll probably go out and add horsefeathers in FA that puts us in the 10-15 range next year. Selling Bell is so horsefeathering dumb.

[WrigleyField 22]

Oh and that pick was from the Deng trade which was made just to avoid the luxury tax. Rofl, we're so good at saving money, guys.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

 

This I'll actually debate, without conceding I'm auto-wrong lol.

 

We very well MAY have overvalued Jimmy. Again, my honest guess is we chose the wrong deal to accept. But, at mid season, or after the season, I honestly doubt we'd have received THIS much. And I'm OK with moving him now, instead of another middling, at best year.

 

Jimmy is a top 10-15 player in the league, one of the 5 or so best players to ever put on a Bulls uniform, and the best Bull since MJ and Pippen. Our sorry ass front office, who you admit is terrible and needs to go, just traded him for a pile of flaming garbage, and your like "cool guess we overvalued him. But what a breath of fresh air this is."

 

This is so bizarre I can barely handle it.

 

Come on, the package isn't great. But, its not a flaming pile of garbage. If it PROVES to be, then fine. But, its not right now. There's possibilities with them. And as much as I hate Rose, he won a horsefeathering MVP. Jimmy is NOT the best Bull since Mike and Scottie.

 

The one thing I honestly don't get is standing pat with being .500. I'd much prefer trying to be great than being average. This gets us on an actual path. Probably won't work with these guys running the show, but its better than running the risk of getting even less for him later.

 

Rose's two year peak during which he won an MVP that he almost definitely didn't deserve was nice and all, but I'll take the bigger, stronger, more complete, more durable Butler who's hung around the top of the league for like 5 years now.

[SpongeWorthy]

Sell the pick for cash cuz this is the year we finally stop filling up the UC right?

[UMFan83]

Oh and that pick was from the Deng trade which was made just to avoid the luxury tax. Rofl, we're so good at saving money, guys.

 

Haha didn't think about it that way. We actually bought the pick that was used to draft Deng too. So we gave some cash to Phoenix and then 10+ years later it was given back to us by Golden State. No other players involved (besides Bynum).

 

I can't not be a Bulls fan but this is the closest I could probably get to disowning one of my favorite teams. There is no excuse for what occurred tonight.

Edited June 23, 2017 by UMFan83

[davell]

 

Jimmy is a top 10-15 player in the league, one of the 5 or so best players to ever put on a Bulls uniform, and the best Bull since MJ and Pippen. Our sorry ass front office, who you admit is terrible and needs to go, just traded him for a pile of flaming garbage, and your like "cool guess we overvalued him. But what a breath of fresh air this is."

 

This is so bizarre I can barely handle it.

 

Come on, the package isn't great. But, its not a flaming pile of garbage. If it PROVES to be, then fine. But, its not right now. There's possibilities with them. And as much as I hate Rose, he won a horsefeathering MVP. Jimmy is NOT the best Bull since Mike and Scottie.

 

The one thing I honestly don't get is standing pat with being .500. I'd much prefer trying to be great than being average. This gets us on an actual path. Probably won't work with these guys running the show, but its better than running the risk of getting even less for him later.

 

Rose's two year peak during which he won an MVP that he almost definitely didn't deserve was nice and all, but I'll take the bigger, stronger, more complete, more durable Butler who's hung around the top of the league for like 5 years now.

 

They're both 3 time All Stars. Rose has an MVP. This is kind of a silly thing to argue, so I'll stop here on it. But, I'd say Rose is the best Bull since the 90's, whether he deserved the MVP or not.

[WrigleyField 22]

Oh and that pick was from the Deng trade which was made just to avoid the luxury tax. Rofl, we're so good at saving money, guys.

 

I can't not be a Bulls fan but this is the closest I could probably get to disowning one of my favorite teams. There is no excuse for what occurred tonight.

I mean just in the past three trades we've basically just thrown away 3 picks.

[Andy]

I don't know anything about Bell but I was just about to think 'well at least we grabbed someone everyone on NBA Twitter thinks should've gone several picks ago' and, nope, just sold him off. What an absolute travesty this franchise has become.

[davell]

Selling the pick shows they aren't even committed to rebuilding. I'm guessing we'll hear some sort of comment from them. But that's just horsefeathering pitiful. My guess is they'll add some guys and wind up retooling. Now that'd piss me off, because we downgraded from Jimmy.

 

I honestly thought by trading him, that meant they're committed to rebuilding. Selling off a guy who probably was a top 25ish talent shows they aren't.

[David]

 

This I'll actually debate, without conceding I'm auto-wrong lol.

 

We very well MAY have overvalued Jimmy. Again, my honest guess is we chose the wrong deal to accept. But, at mid season, or after the season, I honestly doubt we'd have received THIS much. And I'm OK with moving him now, instead of another middling, at best year.

 

Jimmy is a top 10-15 player in the league, one of the 5 or so best players to ever put on a Bulls uniform, and the best Bull since MJ and Pippen. Our sorry ass front office, who you admit is terrible and needs to go, just traded him for a pile of flaming garbage, and your like "cool guess we overvalued him. But what a breath of fresh air this is."

 

This is so bizarre I can barely handle it.

 

Come on, the package isn't great. But, its not a flaming pile of garbage. If it PROVES to be, then fine. But, its not right now. There's possibilities with them. And as much as I hate Rose, he won a horsefeathering MVP. Jimmy is NOT the best Bull since Mike and Scottie.

 

The one thing I honestly don't get is standing pat with being .500. I'd much prefer trying to be great than being average. This gets us on an actual path. Probably won't work with these guys running the show, but its better than running the risk of getting even less for him later.

 

it is absolutely a flaming pile of garbage

 

they got two garbage ass players and a horsefeathering pick swap

[WrigleyField 22]

This trade adds up now

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/ct-jake-burger-draft-white-sox-20170621-story.html

[Bobson Dugnutt]

 

Come on, the package isn't great. But, its not a flaming pile of garbage. If it PROVES to be, then fine. But, its not right now. There's possibilities with them. And as much as I hate Rose, he won a horsefeathering MVP. Jimmy is NOT the best Bull since Mike and Scottie.

 

The one thing I honestly don't get is standing pat with being .500. I'd much prefer trying to be great than being average. This gets us on an actual path. Probably won't work with these guys running the show, but its better than running the risk of getting even less for him later.

 

Rose's two year peak during which he won an MVP that he almost definitely didn't deserve was nice and all, but I'll take the bigger, stronger, more complete, more durable Butler who's hung around the top of the league for like 5 years now.

 

They're both 3 time All Stars. Rose has an MVP. This is kind of a silly thing to argue, so I'll stop here on it. But, I'd say Rose is the best Bull since the 90's, whether he deserved the MVP or not.

 

Eh, it's close, but I very much fall in line with this guy's rankings.

 

[tweet]https://twitter.com/cosmis/status/833382838909227009[/tweet]

[UMFan83]

So in the last 6 months GarPax has...

 

-traded 2 quality players in McDermott and Gibson for Payne and that white stiff. Now Payne has basically been rendered useless with Dunn (and Grant and MCW and maybe Rondo) on the roster. So we just gave away 2 decent trade chips for nothing.

 

-then they take possibly the best available asset in the NBA and trade him for 2 guys who have major red flags and likely neither have a ceiling close to Jimmy's as well as pick up a somewhat 1 dimensional guy whose common comp is Niko

 

-oh and they also gave up their 1st round pick in the trade

 

-then they sell their high 2nd round pick for money

 

I'm concerned that our FO has brain damage. How they turned Deng, Taj, Jimmy, McDermott, the number 16 pick and the number 38 pick into Lavine, Dunn, Maarkenen, Payne and that other stuff is beyond my comprehension.

[SpongeWorthy]

So in the last 6 months GarPax has...

 

-traded 2 quality players in McDermott and Gibson for Payne and that white stiff. Now Payne has basically been rendered useless with Dunn (and Grant and MCW and maybe Rondo) on the roster. So we just gave away 2 decent trade chips for nothing.

 

-then they take possibly the best available asset in the NBA and trade him for 2 guys who have major red flags and likely neither have a ceiling close to Jimmy's as well as pick up a somewhat 1 dimensional guy whose common comp is Niko

 

-oh and they also gave up their 1st round pick in the trade

 

-then they sell their high 2nd round pick for money

 

I'm concerned that our FO has brain damage. How they turned Deng, Taj, Jimmy, McDermott, the number 16 pick and the number 38 pick into Lavine, Dunn, Maarkenen, Payne and that other stuff is beyond my comprehension.

McDermott is butt

[UMFan83]

[Andy]

Paxson said their job is to rebuild through the draft, which should've been followed by 50 questions in a row about why they traded away a horsefeathering first round pick today

[davell]

Paxson said their job is to rebuild through the draft, which should've been followed by 50 questions in a row about why they traded away a horsefeathering first round pick today

 

Unfortunately, they answered that indirectly, when they said Reinsdorf was with them every step of the way.

 

I think their real answer was the wings they wanted were gone. Which is stupid, since they conceivably should know that trading Bell for another pick(s) is more helpful than pocketing cash, for a rebuild.

[Splendid Splinter]

Paxson said their job is to rebuild through the draft, which should've been followed by 50 questions in a row about why they traded away a horsefeathering first round pick today

 

 

Because he would've answered that they didn't traded "away" a 1st which is true. They switched and move up 9 spots.

 

Granted the 16th pick shouldn't have been involved in this deal in the first place.

[davell]

How bad are we currently? Over/Under 25 wins? Figure we'll bring back Mirotic. And I guess we'll use Rondo to bring in a bad contract guy, with something attached.

[Cubswin11]

I mean, could you not of at least gotten Porzingis for Jimmy and 16?

[Cubswin11]

How bad are we currently? Over/Under 25 wins? Figure we'll bring back Mirotic. And I guess we'll use Rondo to bring in a bad contract guy, with something attached.

I'd say definitely under 30 wins

[Derwood]

Mike and Mike, who are the reigning kings of luke warm sports takes, are absolutely destroying this trade. You know its bad when Greenburg has an actual opinion about it

[Bobson Dugnutt]

Is there a single person in the media even kind of defending it? Legitimately asking. I'd love to read it.

[Sammy Sofa]

I stopped paying any real attention to the Bulls a while back, so seeing this thread explode overnight I figured there was going to be something amazingly terrible that happened, because: Bulls. I buckled up to be entertained.

 

I was not let down. They're SO bad that they've seemingly driven davell into complete madness.

[WrigleyField 22]

I stopped paying any real attention to the Bulls a while back, so seeing this thread explode overnight I figured there was going to be something amazingly terrible that happened, because: Bulls. I buckled up to be entertained.

 

I was not let down. They're SO bad that they've seemingly driven davell into complete madness.

Well he is probably still recovering from the extended coma he lapsed into while joining the board.