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minnesotacubsfan

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What makes you say this?

 

Ummm, because if you are picking top 5 you most likely sucked the year before, hence plenty of room for improvement

 

And you can't take advantage of plenty of room for improvement by trading down for more picks?

 

 

Suuuuure. That's my question. How many teams do?

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I mean, how often does that happen? Does it even happen every year, and how truly successful is it?

It seems like it happens more years than not for teams trading up to/out of picks between 1-9ish. It happened twice last year with Goff/Wentz.

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I mean, how often does that happen? Does it even happen every year, and how truly successful is it?

 

It seems like it's often, but the problem is that most of the organization who do trade down can't somehow be successful with more picks mainly cuz their org/GM suck balls. Maybe it's also coaching/development on top of that.

 

Pats are pretty much the only team that are successful with the trading down for more picks although their 1st is always 20 or later.

 

I will say that the success rate for the teams that trade UP is like a notch above nil (Julio Jones was worth it IMO).

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We are in a really weird spot, with Pace and Fox. I'm starting to think they're truly tied together. Both signed 4 year deals. So, what happens if we go 5-11? Does Pace get to hire another coach? Or is he stuck with Fox? Because, if we keep Fox in place, it allows for both to be fired simultaneously.

 

I'm bringing it up because if we DO go 5-11 and fire Fox.....It puts a new head coaching hire on Pace, who'd be entering the last year of his deal. And if he doesn't show serious progress himself by year 4, he's likely gone too. And then you've got another coaching change on the horizon, so the new GM can get his guy.

 

So, do you extend Pace, even in a 5-11 year and let him hire a second coach?

 

If you do, then that guy gets his own QB too most likely.

 

I think a lot of this will play itself out, with how we address QB in the draft, personally.

 

1) In order to placate Fox(and attempt to win), I doubt our 1st is a QB. If it is, I honestly don't know if that means Pace is safe or in trouble. Hell, if I'm him and trying to save my job, I'd probably hold off on the 1st round QB, because its a known entity long before his contract is up.

 

2) But, if our 2nd or 3rd is a QB.....I'd say Pace is on the hotseat and needs to show that Glennon OR that 2/3rd round guy IS the QB of the future, to help preserve his own job.

 

3) If the QB drafted is a Dobbs, Rush, Kelly, Knight type, then my guess is Pace knows Fox is gone after 2017 and is safe himself, with his new hire getting to use a top pick on a QB.

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http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5122/ricky-jean-francois

 

Bears just heavily attended Deshaun Watson's pro-day. Now meeting wiith another DL. Nobody will mistake signing Francois for drafting, Allen, but it's fun to try to connect the dots.

 

 

Heard that on my way home. I think they said he had an offer from the Bears, then they signed CJ Wilson.

 

Prediction: RJF will be a "Cardinals style" stud for the Packers this year.

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Lol Bears

 

 

I mean, it doesn't guarantee that the Bears don't draft a QB in the first 2 rounds but it certainly seems less likely

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Lol Bears

 

 

I mean, it doesn't guarantee that the Bears don't draft a QB in the first 2 rounds but it certainly seems less likely

 

 

We may not take one anyway. But, it won't have anything to do with signing Sanchez. He may not even make the roster.

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The bear rightfully fired lovie 6 years ago for winning, but not frequently enough. And now 3 years into Ryan Pac's tenure the quarterback depth chart is mike Glennon and Mark Sanchez.

 

 

 

 

Amazing

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Mark Sanchez is an old man who lives at the school.

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