Mock Offseason Thread

[Tim]

Rest of offseason for the Cubs.....

 

3 Way Deal- Cubs get RHP Joe Musgrove, Astros get RHP Jake Odorizzi and Rays get 1B AJ Reed and 2B Ian Happ

 

...

Yes, please. I like Musgrove more than Odorizzi right now.

[Tryptamine]

Rest of offseason for the Cubs.....

 

3 Way Deal- Cubs get RHP Joe Musgrove, Astros get RHP Jake Odorizzi and Rays get 1B AJ Reed and 2B Ian Happ

 

...

Yes, please. I like Musgrove more than Odorizzi right now.

 

No doubt. If the Cubs could get Musgrove and it only cost them Happ, I'd be absolutely thrilled.

[raw]

Rest of offseason for the Cubs.....

 

Minor League Deals

 

C Chris Gimenez, SS Munenori Kawasaki, OF Desmond Jennings, SP Williams Perez, RP Aaron Barrett, RP JJ Hoover, RP Charlie Furbush

 

Free Agent Signings

 

LHRP Jerry Blevins 2/14

 

RHP Tyson Ross 1/8 with team option of 12 for 2018

 

Trades

 

3 Way Deal- Cubs get RHP Joe Musgrove, Astros get RHP Jake Odorizzi and Rays get 1B AJ Reed and 2B Ian Happ

 

OF Matt Szczur for LHP Dillon Overton

 

 

 

C Contreras, Montero (AAA Gimenez)

1B Rizzo

2B Zobrist,La Stella

SS Russell, Baez (AAA Kawasaki)

3B Bryant

LF Schwarber (AAA Jennings)

CF Jay, Almora

RF Heyward

 

Rotation

 

Lester, Arrieta, Hendricks, Lackey, Montgomery (DL Ross)

 

Depth Musgrove, Perez, Zastryzny, Overton

 

Bullpen, Davis, Rondon, Strop, Edwards, Uehara, Grimm, Duensing, Blevins

 

Depth, Pena, Rosario, Leathersich, Barrett, Furbush, Hoover

 

This is rather excellent.

[Post Count Padder]

Rest of offseason for the Cubs.....

 

Minor League Deals

 

C Chris Gimenez, SS Munenori Kawasaki, OF Desmond Jennings, SP Williams Perez, RP Aaron Barrett, RP JJ Hoover, RP Charlie Furbush

 

Free Agent Signings

 

LHRP Jerry Blevins 2/14

 

RHP Tyson Ross 1/8 with team option of 12 for 2018

 

Trades

 

3 Way Deal- Cubs get RHP Joe Musgrove, Astros get RHP Jake Odorizzi and Rays get 1B AJ Reed and 2B Ian Happ

 

OF Matt Szczur for LHP Dillon Overton

 

 

 

C Contreras, Montero (AAA Gimenez)

1B Rizzo

2B Zobrist,La Stella

SS Russell, Baez (AAA Kawasaki)

3B Bryant

LF Schwarber (AAA Jennings)

CF Jay, Almora

RF Heyward

 

Rotation

 

Lester, Arrieta, Hendricks, Lackey, Montgomery (DL Ross)

 

Depth Musgrove, Perez, Zastryzny, Overton

 

Bullpen, Davis, Rondon, Strop, Edwards, Uehara, Grimm, Duensing, Blevins

 

Depth, Pena, Rosario, Leathersich, Barrett, Furbush, Hoover

This is all really on point. No problems here.

 

Was also wondering if we couldn't toss Sczcur and a lottery ticket to the Phillies for Appel if they've soured on him. Their outfield depth is slim and they have a lot of intriguing SP options in the upper minors and on the MLB team.

[imb]

Why would the astros give up Reed and Musgrove for only Odorizzi?

[davell]

Reed has been awful, gained weight, and has all kinds of questions at this point. His value has taken a hit. Musgrove, for as much as I like him......Kind of shocked a few here think he's so valuable. For all of the horsefeathers pitching on here, Musgrove has literally missed time EVERY year he's been a pro(2011) up until 2016. He's currently their 6th starter and their trying to add one more. For what the Astros are doing(going big RIGHT NOW) Odorizzi is more of a known quantity, the Astros would be dealing from depth, in adding a solid guy with control and not having to deal Martes, who they love. He's very likely to put up more value than Musgrove over the next two years.

 

The Astros have already balked at the high prices on Archer and Quintana. And Sale, for that matter. They are really trying to add a starter, Odorizzi is about the closest thing left to something decent. And Tampa is still going to want a big haul for him. I thought about adding Oscar De La Cruz in on our side, going to Tampa, and Boxberger going to Houston, but left it smaller, because a top 50ish type in Happ, and a plug and play 1B, with some issues, seems like fair value in THIS market for a solid mid rotation type with a few years of control. Gives Tampa the hitting they're looking for, us the young, cost controlled guy with options, and Houston more of a sure thing in the middle of their rotation in their push.

 

Perfect? Of course not. Best I can do on trying to get us Musgrove though.

[CubsWin]

Why would the astros give up Reed and Musgrove for only Odorizzi?

 

They wouldn't.

Seem pretty sure of yourself. Been hacking into the Astros computers?