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Brian707 Myrtle Beach Pelicans

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Besides the Cubs, when was the last time a team has made the LCS 3 years in a row?

Cardinals 2011-2014 so 4 years.

 

 

I think the Braves made it several times in a row in the 90's? Not including the 94 strike year.

1991

1992

1993

1995

1996

1997

1998

1999

 

Edited, in Bull's link

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Besides the Cubs, when was the last time a team has made the LCS 3 years in a row?

Cardinals 2011-2014 so 4 years.

 

 

I think the Braves made it several times in a row in the 90's? Not including the 94 strike year.

1991

1992

1993

1995

1996

1997

1998

1999

 

Edited, in Bull's link

 

Not to say that their run was incredible, but the first 3 years included no division series so they were in the CS by default. Though it was harder to make the playoffs back then.

 

8 years straight is mind boggling. Gotta sting to go 1-4 in World Series.

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Sammy Sofa

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No Offense, But Adam Ottavino Would Make Babe Ruth Look Like A Sack Of Pig Assholes

 

Worth it for this guy's comment:

 

I’m picturing some modern American being transported back to 1920's NYC or something. They gotta eat boiled meat or some sort of weird sandwich for food, gotta drink fermented cat piss to get drunk, then they have to fight off an escaped zoo tiger that got into their house because it’s the 1920's. Then they gave to walk to the game, where they’ll gave to bat against a pitcher who is just some guy the other team pulled off the street. Did I mention the pitcher is a white guy with red face paint masquerading as an “Injun” so that the team can sell more tickets? And then after the game you have to go do your second job, which is building a skyscraper, but you have to do it with no safety equipment. And you forgot your boiled meat and your weird sandwich on the ground before you went up, so you can’t even eat.
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I’ll be damned. The video of Ruth they linked in that story was a video I created like ten years ago. Some wanker stole it and put it on their channel apparently.

 

That comment is funny, but not really accurate. Ballplayers back then weren’t just dudes off the street. There were pretty extensive farm teams back then.

 

The point remains though; yes, if you time machined 1918 Babe Ruth into 2018, he’d K almost every time.

 

However, hitting a round ball with a round bat is a translatable skill to some degree. Some people have that skill to an extreme level. Ruth was a ridiculous athlete for his time and if infant Babe Ruth was transported to 1990 and grew up playing ball, I bet he’d be a stud in the MLB.

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I’ll be damned. The video of Ruth they linked in that story was a video I created like ten years ago. Some wanker stole it and put it on their channel apparently.

 

That comment is funny, but not really accurate. Ballplayers back then weren’t just dudes off the street. There were pretty extensive farm teams back then.

 

The point remains though; yes, if you time machined 1918 Babe Ruth into 2018, he’d K almost every time.

 

However, hitting a round ball with a round bat is a translatable skill to some degree. Some people have that skill to an extreme level. Ruth was a ridiculous athlete for his time and if infant Babe Ruth was transported to 1990 and grew up playing ball, I bet he’d be a stud in the MLB.

 

Give Babe Ruth an off season of video, training, etc. and he'd do very well in 2018

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Joe Sewell, the hardest man to K in history, only struck out 114 times in 8,333 PA's. That's only 1.3%. :shock:

 

His 27 season he stole 3 bases and was caught 16 times lol. Career 74 stolen with 72 caught.

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Joe Sewell, the hardest man to K in history, only struck out 114 times in 8,333 PA's. That's only 1.3%. :shock:

 

His 27 season he stole 3 bases and was caught 16 times lol. Career 74 stolen with 72 caught.

 

That may also be a record...

 

Good grief. Adam Dunn probably had a better percentage.

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Joe Sewell, the hardest man to K in history, only struck out 114 times in 8,333 PA's. That's only 1.3%. :shock:

and the craziest thing is chatwood k'd him 8 times alone (still walked him 4 times tho) last year

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Joe Sewell, the hardest man to K in history, only struck out 114 times in 8,333 PA's. That's only 1.3%. :shock:

In 1930 he had 0 HRs and only struck out 3 times. His BA and BABIP nearly one and the same.

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OleMissCub

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https://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1871/B06280TRO1871.htm

 

June 28, 1871, the Philadelphia Athletics defeat the Troy Haymakers 49-33. Both pitchers went the distance, and somehow the game was completed in under 4 hours

 

It’s hard to know when to actually start taking baseball stats seriously and everyone is going to have a different opinion, but it’s definitely not any time before 1903, which is when fouls began counting as strikes.

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https://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1871/B06280TRO1871.htm

 

June 28, 1871, the Philadelphia Athletics defeat the Troy Haymakers 49-33. Both pitchers went the distance, and somehow the game was completed in under 4 hours

 

It’s hard to know when to actually start taking baseball stats seriously and everyone is going to have a different opinion, but it’s definitely not any time before 1903, which is when fouls began counting as strikes.

 

Underhand pitching, no gloves, no stealing, no sliding....yeah, it's barely baseball

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https://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1871/B06280TRO1871.htm

 

June 28, 1871, the Philadelphia Athletics defeat the Troy Haymakers 49-33. Both pitchers went the distance, and somehow the game was completed in under 4 hours

 

It’s hard to know when to actually start taking baseball stats seriously and everyone is going to have a different opinion, but it’s definitely not any time before 1903, which is when fouls began counting as strikes.

 

In this vein, everyone should read Crazy '08. There's great stories like how the outfield in Pittsburgh flooded one day, and instead of canceling the game they just said anything hit to the outfield was a ground rule double. Plus, happy ending with the Cubs winning the title.

OleMissCub Cooperstown

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https://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1871/B06280TRO1871.htm

 

June 28, 1871, the Philadelphia Athletics defeat the Troy Haymakers 49-33. Both pitchers went the distance, and somehow the game was completed in under 4 hours

 

It’s hard to know when to actually start taking baseball stats seriously and everyone is going to have a different opinion, but it’s definitely not any time before 1903, which is when fouls began counting as strikes.

 

In this vein, everyone should read Crazy '08. There's great stories like how the outfield in Pittsburgh flooded one day, and instead of canceling the game they just said anything hit to the outfield was a ground rule double. Plus, happy ending with the Cubs winning the title.

 

100% agree. It’s one of my favorite books ever. Gives such a vivid portrayal of how completely insane the baseball world was. There was talk several years ago about it being made into an HBO mini-series. Too bad that didn’t come into fruition.

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OleMissCub

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Baines' ridiculous induction in the HOF got me thinking about this.

 

Players in the top 10 for JAWS at their position who aren't in the HOF:

 

C: Joe Mauer (8th), Ted Simmons (10th)

1B: Pujols (2nd)

2B: Cano (7th) Grich (8th)

3B: Beltre (4th), Rolen (10th)

SS: A-Rod (2nd), Bill Dahlen (a 19th century dude at 10th)

LF: Bonds (1st), Rose (5th...played more games at 1st, so not sure why he's listed in JAWS for LF), Manny (10th)

CF: Trout (6th), Beltran (9th), Lofton (10th)

RF: Walker (10th)

P: Clemens (3rd)

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cl smooth

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JAWS??

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/about/jaws.shtml

 

The JAWS (Jaffe WAR Score system) was developed by sabermetrician Jay Jaffe — first at Baseball Prospectus in 2004 — as a means to measure a player's Hall of Fame worthiness by comparing him to the players at his position who are already enshrined, using advanced metrics to account for the wide variations in offensive levels that have occurred throughout the game's history. The stated goal is to improve the Hall of Fame's standards, or at least to maintain them rather than erode them, by admitting players who are at least as good as the average Hall of Famer at the position, using a means via which longevity isn't the sole determinant of worthiness.

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