Rays/Cubs Talking Baez Trade Per Tampa Beat Writer

[KingCubsFan]

Cobb would be okay as a depth addition. Don't love the idea of him and McGee for Baez, wish we could get a pitcher with a little more upside (Odorizzi). But I'd be okay I guess with Cobb/McGee.

 

is odorizzi's upside really any higher?

No. I think he's mixing up the two.

[Cubswin11]

Cobb would be okay as a depth addition. Don't love the idea of him and McGee for Baez, wish we could get a pitcher with a little more upside (Odorizzi). But I'd be okay I guess with Cobb/McGee.

 

is odorizzi's upside really any higher?

I think a little bit, he's about 2.5 years younger, Ks guys at a little bit better rate, plus he throws a cutter so young know Bosio magic (Brewers also drafted Odorizzi when Bosio was there, I believe). I guess ultimately they are about the same, between the two there could be a little more to tap into with Odorizzi. Also, isn't Cobb hurt or has been hurt?

Edited December 7, 2015 by Cubswin11

[Guest]

Will Cobb be ready for the start of the 2016 season?

[Proven Veteran]

I still think Moore would be a good buy. He was almost an unparalleled prospect

about that...

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/rankings/top-100-prospects/2012/2612998.html

#42 and #89 amuse me.

 

Brett Jackson 15 spots ahead of Anthony Rizzo. Javier Baez and Matt Szczur 3 spots apart.

 

We should show the A's and Rays this list, we should be able to snag one of Gray or Archer for Szczur.

[davell]

Will Cobb be ready for the start of the 2016 season?

 

I don't think so. I don't think he had it until the middle of May or so.

[Guest]

Will Cobb be ready for the start of the 2016 season?

 

I don't think so. I don't think he had it until the middle of May or so.

 

Yeah, it was in May. I hadn't seen anything about his rehab so I wasn't sure. I'm not too enthused about trading Baez for a guy coming off TJS who might miss a month or two of the regular season (and might be on an innings limit too). Not the type of trade I'd make for a win-now team.

[Guest]

Will Cobb be ready for the start of the 2016 season?

 

I don't think so. I don't think he had it until the middle of May or so.

 

Yeah, it was in May. I hadn't seen anything about his rehab so I wasn't sure. I'm not too enthused about trading Baez for a guy coming off TJS who might miss a month or two of the regular season (and might be on an innings limit too). Not the type of trade I'd make for a win-now team.

 

yeah, i didn't realize when he had the TJS. less enthused about him, especially since he'd probably need that recovery year (or at least several starts of that).

[Guest]

If Baez is going to be traded for pitching I want Archer or no deal.

[Guest]

If Baez is going to be traded for pitching I want Archer or no deal.

 

i love javy and even i think this is ridiculous

[Guest]

If Baez is going to be traded for pitching I want Archer or no deal.

 

i love javy and even i think this is ridiculous

They can add other minor pieces as well.

[XZero771679666304]

If Baez is going to be traded for pitching I want Archer or no deal.

 

i love javy and even i think this is ridiculous

They can add other minor pieces as well.

 

Baez would have to be the minor piece if you want Archer.

[sweetpeteman]

If Baez is going to be traded for pitching I want Archer or no deal.

 

i love javy and even i think this is ridiculous

They can add other minor pieces as well.

 

Still ridiculous.

 

Archer, much like Fernandez, will not be traded unless the return is insane. Not only is he really good, but his contract is amazing for the Rays ($41mm until 2021).

[Sammy Sofa]

If Baez is going to be traded for pitching I want Archer or no deal.

 

i love javy and even i think this is ridiculous

They can add other minor pieces as well.

 

Even if you're inexplicably talking about some previously unknown third Baez in the Cubs system who was secretly amazing, you could add in the two actual Baezes and you'd still have a scenario where the Rays laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh.

[rawaction]

Why would the Rays trade Snell? Do they really have THAT much pitching and lack hitting that much? I'd gladly take him AND someone else for Baez, but not sure what their incentive would be to make a deal. Anybody more familiar with that roster?

[davell]

Why would the Rays trade Snell? Do they really have THAT much pitching and lack hitting that much? I'd gladly take him AND someone else for Baez, but not sure what their incentive would be to make a deal. Anybody more familiar with that roster?

 

They've had a long time hole of some sorts at SS. They just acquired Miller, but I think the plan is to use him as a Zobrist type. Their rotation is Archer/Odorizzi/Smyly/Moore/Ramirez/Cobb already. And they'd still have Guerrieri too. If they believe in Javy, I could definitely see Snell being on the table, given their pitching depth.

[Tryptamine]

Why would the Rays trade Snell? Do they really have THAT much pitching and lack hitting that much? I'd gladly take him AND someone else for Baez, but not sure what their incentive would be to make a deal. Anybody more familiar with that roster?

 

Archer,Moore,Cobb,Odorizzi,Smyly,Karns,Colome,Erasmo and Snell are all candidates for the rotation this year. They surely don't need to be 9 SP deep.

[Clem Fandango]

Not that it makes a huge difference with that list, but Karns got traded to the Mariners earlier this offseason

[rawaction]

Cool. Make it happen then. This is kind of the reverse Rizzo/Cashner deal for the Cubs.

[Guest]

I meant the Rays could throw in the minor parts.

 

But really I was not serious. I'm not that high on Baez, but I do not want him traded for a bullpen arm.

[Cubbie Swagger]

We better not give Baez away for nothing. A reliever? Really?

[KrisBryantisaBeast]

We better not give Baez away for nothing. A reliever? Really?

 

The Cubs are not giving away Baez and they are not trading him for a reliever. Back away from your keyboard and breathe.

[ctcf]

 

I'm probably one of the very few who prefer Cobb the most. Just love that dude. I get the TJS concerns, though.

[Tryptamine]

 

I'm probably one of the very few who prefer Cobb the most. Just love that dude. I get the TJS concerns, though.

 

When healthy he's the 2nd best pitcher we've been linked to, behind only Carassco.

[Gilby]

Cobb only has two more years of control and won't be ready for the start of the season (plus the potential for the first-year-after-TJ-struggles). I don't love Baez, but that's a deal you can't make.

[davell]

Gordo says the Tampa stuff seems to be coming from their side.....