What happens if Schwarber goes on an absolute tear?

[Cubbie Swagger]

What if he just absolutely rakes for the entire week? Do they still send him down, or let him ride it out?

[Guest]

Considering they explicitly said they would still send him down, they will still send him down.

[George Hayduke]

Considering they explicitly said they would still send him down, they will still send him down.

Didn't they say a similar thing with Alcantara last year (that he was definitely just coming up to get a cup of coffee), but then he went on a tear and they decided to keep him up instead?

 

Obviously a different situation with Schwarber trying to improve his catching, I know.

[Guest]

Considering they explicitly said they would still send him down, they will still send him down.

Didn't they say a similar thing with Alcantara last year (that he was definitely just coming up to get a cup of coffee), but then he went on a tear and they decided to keep him up instead?

 

Obviously a different situation with Schwarber trying to improve his catching, I know.

 

very different situation, largely for the reason you stated. he has no position.

[Cubbie Swagger]

Considering they explicitly said they would still send him down, they will still send him down.

Didn't they say a similar thing with Alcantara last year (that he was definitely just coming up to get a cup of coffee), but then he went on a tear and they decided to keep him up instead?

 

Obviously a different situation with Schwarber trying to improve his catching, I know.

 

very different situation, largely for the reason you stated. he has no position.

Yeah this is likely gonna be the bottom line I think.

[TruffleShuffle]

even if he could play a competent lf, coghlan has an .800 ops against RHP despite hitting into a lot of bad luck this year, and denorfia has been raking (and has a career line of .293/.359/.430/.789 against LHP). unless soler is hurt for longer than expected or comes back and struggles (remember, his OPS is just .724 and that's with a babip of .383), there's not really a need for schwarber in the lineup right now. just send him to iowa and keep working on the D.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Stick him in LF. Coghlan sucks.

[Guest]

Stick him in LF. Coghlan sucks.

 

lol

[sontensei]

the only way i see schwarber in the lineup after this week is if montero goes to the DL or if for some reason he is traded at the deadline.

[Gilby]

even if he could play a competent lf, coghlan has an .800 ops against RHP despite hitting into a lot of bad luck this year, and denorfia has been raking (and has a career line of .293/.359/.430/.789 against LHP). unless soler is hurt for longer than expected or comes back and struggles (remember, his OPS is just .724 and that's with a babip of .383), there's not really a need for schwarber in the lineup right now. just send him to iowa and keep working on the D.

 

You're right, but if I can count Schwarber as an outfielder, Soler might be the 4th best corner outfielder on the team.

 

There's my hot take for the evening.

[Cubbie Swagger]

even if he could play a competent lf, coghlan has an .800 ops against RHP despite hitting into a lot of bad luck this year, and denorfia has been raking (and has a career line of .293/.359/.430/.789 against LHP). unless soler is hurt for longer than expected or comes back and struggles (remember, his OPS is just .724 and that's with a babip of .383), there's not really a need for schwarber in the lineup right now. just send him to iowa and keep working on the D.

 

You're right, but if I can count Schwarber as an outfielder, Soler might be the 4th best corner outfielder on the team.

 

There's my hot take for the evening.

Is it really okay to call Schwarber better than Soler at this point? I know Soler is off to a slow start, but I didn't know Schwarber had surpassed him.

[Backtobanks]

What if he just absolutely rakes for the entire week? Do they still send him down, or let him ride it out?

 

Trade him even up for Trout. :clapping:

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Is it really okay to call Schwarber better than Soler at this point? I know Soler is off to a slow start, but I didn't know Schwarber had surpassed him.

 

I don't know if it's OK, but I'm sure it's not definitely not OK. Maybe Schwarber was better all along.

[apete6]

Isn't this a decent comp for Schwarber? http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=11003&position=C/DH

 

Evan Gattis was a terrible defensive catcher last year and was worth 2.2 WAR over 108 games. Extrapolate that out to ~125 games and you're looking at 2.5 WAR or so. If Schwarber is better offensively than Gattis was (which is likely due to OBP), it is likely he could be worth 4 WAR even while being a butcher out there.

 

Derek Norris was also terrible on D, actually worse than Gattis, but had a better OBP, but worse SLG, and was worth 2.6 WAR last year. http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=6867&position=C

 

So, yeah, Schwarber could end up being extremely valuable as long as he's not completely incompetent behind the plate.

[Fro]

Is it really okay to call Schwarber better than Soler at this point? I know Soler is off to a slow start, but I didn't know Schwarber had surpassed him.

 

I don't know if it's OK, but I'm sure it's not definitely not OK. Maybe Schwarber was better all along.

 

Schwarber's not always going to be locked in, but even when he's in a slump I don't anticipate him striking out nearly to the level that Soler has this year.

 

He's a better hitter and more polished at that then Soler is. He has power because he's as strong as @#$%, not because he has a big swing.

[Guest]

He's going to AAA, but if he does tear the cover off the ball maybe he sees a lot of time in LF and is back up sooner than later.

[Gilby]

even if he could play a competent lf, coghlan has an .800 ops against RHP despite hitting into a lot of bad luck this year, and denorfia has been raking (and has a career line of .293/.359/.430/.789 against LHP). unless soler is hurt for longer than expected or comes back and struggles (remember, his OPS is just .724 and that's with a babip of .383), there's not really a need for schwarber in the lineup right now. just send him to iowa and keep working on the D.

 

You're right, but if I can count Schwarber as an outfielder, Soler might be the 4th best corner outfielder on the team.

 

There's my hot take for the evening.

Is it really okay to call Schwarber better than Soler at this point? I know Soler is off to a slow start, but I didn't know Schwarber had surpassed him.

 

I think Schwarber will get on base more and generally be a better hitter. No idea what type of defense he'd provide in the OF. I think Soler will improve, but he showed weaknesses I didn't know he had.

[Sammy Sofa]

I swear more people here are higher on Baez than Soler when you get right down to it, which just seems maximum crazypants to me.

[tfarks]

Soler teased us hitting more dongs last year in half the PA that he's had this year. And we had to watch him Soriano it over & over while wearing a stupid mask. He will be embraced in our good graces again soon enough.

[CubColtPacer]

I swear more people here are higher on Baez than Soler when you get right down to it, which just seems maximum crazypants to me.

 

Hmm, that's an interesting question. They are in many ways very similar players. High power, good defense at their positions. Baez has the big positional edge. Soler had a massive edge in the strikeout category, but this year from him has been worrying in that department while Baez's season was a little encouraging. Soler still has an edge in that area, but it's not nearly as big. Soler also has a bigger injury concern.

 

They're probably pretty close at this point. Soler with a little better chance have a career in the majors, Baez with a better chance to be a massive player. Probably depends on your risk tolerance.

[downsr30]

I think the Cubs will send Schwarber to AAA, give him split time between C and LF and explain it as a move to help them this year but then say the ultimate goal is to keep him behind the plate - which I disagree with and also think they'll move past. If Schwarber can be a serviceable LF, that allows the Cubs to have Coghlan and Soler platoon in right field, potentially platoon Schwarber and Montero at C and have an extremely versatile bench. From there our glaring weakness keeping the Cubs from taking that next step is another arm in the pen.

 

 

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[Guest]

Schwarber's not always going to be locked in, but even when he's in a slump I don't anticipate him striking out nearly to the level that Soler has this year.

 

FWIW, last year in 79 AA PA, Soler struck out 19% of the time and walked 15.2% of the time with a .446 ISO. Smaller sample, but add in his AAA numbers in 127 PA (20.5% K, 13.4% BB, .336 ISO) and they don't really get much worse.

 

Schwarber in 243 AA PA struck out 20.2% of the time and walked 17.3% of the time with a .259 ISO.

[treebird]

i would be very excited about a schwarber/montero offense/defense weirdo matchup platoon next season

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Yeah, but what if he doesn't