2014-15 Chicago Bulls Playoffs Thread - SEE RED

[Sammy Sofa]

I mean, I think McDermott can eventually be a guy that contributes to this team, but I only want to see him on the court in these playoffs if it's a complete blowout, like Game 2.

 

Pretty much; nobody disagrees that it's a war crime that Hinirch got as much time as he did during the season as opposed to McDermott getting more minutes, but it's weird how some people talk about him sometimes like there's potentially this gamechanging talent just rotting on the bench.

 

McDermott got just under the number of minutes that Jimmy Butler got in his rookie season. And as good as Butler has become, he didn't enter the league that way...it took time to develop. Maybe McDermott will end up being awesome, but trying to shoehorn him in to the playoffs with around 300 minutes played in the regular season does nobody any good.

 

Great points.

[Wilson A2000]

The point was to get him meaningful minutes before the playoffs so he could have contributed. He needed minutes to find his rhythm.

 

He really didn't get an unusually low amount of minutes for a rather unremarkable rookie; we were just especially bothered by it because the alternative was the walking pit of despair that is Kirk Hinirch. Odds are Doug McDermott wouldn't be a significant factor in these playoffs even if he had gotten more time.

 

After McDermott got hurt and struggled, he was in Thibs' dog house and had no chance of getting out of it

[Sammy Sofa]

After McDermott got hurt and struggled, he was in Thibs' dog house and had no chance of getting out of it

 

Please fix your quotes.

 

And again, he didn't get an unusually low amount of minutes for a unremarkable rookie. He didn't end up in "the dog house;" he just didn't show much.

[Guest]

After McDermott got hurt and struggled, he was in Thibs' dog house and had no chance of getting out of it

 

Please fix your quotes.

 

And again, he didn't get an unusually low amount of minutes for a unremarkable rookie. He didn't end up in "the dog house;" he just didn't show much.

I may have to uninstall tapatalk.

[Wilson A2000]

It's the Tapatalk app. It's messed up. Time to use the mobile site.

[cubbyvirus00]

The one person in the world violently vomiting over the absence of Doug McDermott. That's quite the scene.

 

Three - GarPax are too

 

And yet they willfully signed Kirk Hinrich.

 

Plus nobody's actually vomiting over basketball games unless they're a [expletive] lunatic.

 

No. I really did vomit repeatedly. Especially when the Bulls were on offense. Good thing I had a bucket nearby.

[Sammy Sofa]

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[Derwood]

The league seriously needs to consider a rule that would prevent getting a free timeout on an official review. I get that both teams get it, but a team that has burned all of its timeouts should have to wait at center court or something

[UMFan83]

The league seriously needs to consider a rule that would prevent getting a free timeout on an official review. I get that both teams get it, but a team that has burned all of its timeouts should have to wait at center court or something

 

The only thing I can think of is a challenge based system like MLB and NFL

[UMFan83]

So Love is out, Kyrie is playing with a foot strain and tendinitis in his knee and LeBron is playing with a sprained ankle. The Stars have aligned Bulls, get it done

[Derwood]

The league seriously needs to consider a rule that would prevent getting a free timeout on an official review. I get that both teams get it, but a team that has burned all of its timeouts should have to wait at center court or something

 

The only thing I can think of is a challenge based system like MLB and NFL

 

How do you mean?

[UMFan83]

The league seriously needs to consider a rule that would prevent getting a free timeout on an official review. I get that both teams get it, but a team that has burned all of its timeouts should have to wait at center court or something

 

The only thing I can think of is a challenge based system like MLB and NFL

 

How do you mean?

 

Reviews aren't automatic. If you want to challenge a play or whatever you are risking losing a TO. If you don't have a TO you can't challenge a play

[ChiCubsFan]

You'd stiill have to have an under 2 minute rule where it's automatic or something...just like the NFL.

 

The easy solution is to force the teams to stay on the court during the review proces.

[Wilson A2000]

David Blatt said that a basketball coach makes 150-200 crucial decisions a game, something only paralleled by a fighter pilot.

 

He's so fired.

[Guest]

@ZachLowe_NBA: The Mirotic/Gibson combo has logged 17 minutes in this series. 17 minutes in 4 games. Bulls are plus-21 in those minutes.

[Banedon]

I think Thibs is terrified of Mirotic's defense.

[Guest]

I think Thibs is terrified of Mirotic's defense.

 

[expletive] it. They have one player to worry about at this point aside from not leaving 3 point shooters wide open.

[SouthSideRyan]

@ZachLowe_NBA: The Mirotic/Gibson combo has logged 17 minutes in this series. 17 minutes in 4 games. Bulls are plus-21 in those minutes.

 

Aren't there a lot of moving pieces going into 17 minutes over 4 games such to make that number damn near worthless?

[Guest]

@ZachLowe_NBA: The Mirotic/Gibson combo has logged 17 minutes in this series. 17 minutes in 4 games. Bulls are plus-21 in those minutes.

 

Aren't there a lot of moving pieces going into 17 minutes over 4 games such to make that number damn near worthless?

 

Pretty much but that doesn't stop anyone from using those. It might be a worth a little more than worthless but not much.

[Guest]

I think Thibs is terrified of Mirotic's defense.

 

[expletive] it. They have one player to worry about at this point aside from not leaving 3 point shooters wide open.

 

Kyrie Irving is going to have an Isiah Thomas in LA game as a result of me posting this now.

[Guest]

@ZachLowe_NBA: The Mirotic/Gibson combo has logged 17 minutes in this series. 17 minutes in 4 games. Bulls are plus-21 in those minutes.

 

Aren't there a lot of moving pieces going into 17 minutes over 4 games such to make that number damn near worthless?

 

Oh, no doubt. That's an incredibly sample size (over the course of a small sample size of four games) with a lot of mitigating factors there.

 

That said, it does feed two into two popular thinking that seem reasonable: Gibson is playing far better than Noah right now and Mirotić does wonders to space the floor when he's in at the 4.

[UMFan83]

@ZachLowe_NBA: The Mirotic/Gibson combo has logged 17 minutes in this series. 17 minutes in 4 games. Bulls are plus-21 in those minutes.

 

Aren't there a lot of moving pieces going into 17 minutes over 4 games such to make that number damn near worthless?

 

Oh, no doubt. That's an incredibly sample size (over the course of a small sample size of four games) with a lot of mitigating factors there.

 

That said, it does feed two into two popular thinking that seem reasonable: Gibson is playing far better than Noah right now and Mirotić does wonders to space the floor when he's in at the 4.

 

What is the best site to get +/- info? I want to see how all the big combos have fared in +/- this postseason. I feel like any combo with Mirotic is going to be a +.

[Banedon]

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[Sammy Sofa]

Gibson is playing far better than Noah right now

 

Well, that's certainly not the case:

 

Noah played 37 minutes last game and Taj played almost 34.

 

Noah ended up with 15 rebounds, 2 steals, 1 block and 8 points for a +4

 

Taj ended up with 8 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal and 6 points for a -1.

 

What about game 2? Both players played just under or over 22 minutes.

 

Noah had 11 rebounds, 3 blocks and 4 points for a -2.

 

Taj had 9 rebounds, 1 block and 9 points for a 0.

 

They were both terrible in game 2, with Noah ending up at -11 and Taj at -15 (Noah played just shy of 30 minutes and Taj only 20).

 

In game 1 Noah was a +13 and Taj was a -13. (Both played just over 28 minutes)

[Sammy Sofa]

@ZachLowe_NBA: The Mirotic/Gibson combo has logged 17 minutes in this series. 17 minutes in 4 games. Bulls are plus-21 in those minutes.

 

Aren't there a lot of moving pieces going into 17 minutes over 4 games such to make that number damn near worthless?

 

Oh, no doubt. That's an incredibly sample size (over the course of a small sample size of four games) with a lot of mitigating factors there.

 

That said, it does feed two into two popular thinking that seem reasonable: Gibson is playing far better than Noah right now and Mirotić does wonders to space the floor when he's in at the 4.

 

What is the best site to get +/- info? I want to see how all the big combos have fared in +/- this postseason. I feel like any combo with Mirotic is going to be a +.

 

There is also a basketball-reference.com that is very handy.