Diving into first

[Banedon]

a new way of thinking about the physical effects on the runner as he dives through the bag — pioneered by the father/son duo that make up “Baseball con Ciencia” — shows that the diving runner could close the distance to the first base bag at a faster rate. Theoretically.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/diving-into-first-base-maybe-not-crazy/

 

As the link notes, this is not about injuries. This is purely about whether diving or running through the bag is faster. Take your injury arguments elsewhere.

 

I've long been in the minority (I think) by believing that diving could be (theoretically) slightly faster than running through the bag, but I know everyone has strong opinions on this.

[Guest]

To counter Stone's "do you see sprinters diving across the finish line" argument, maybe they would if they were diving into a bunch of pillows and not a track

[Banedon]

To counter Stone's "do you see sprinters diving across the finish line" argument, maybe they would if they were diving into a bunch of pillows and not a track

 

Right. They don't dive, but they sure as hell lean forward in an attempt to get more horizontal.

[jersey cubs fan]

a new way of thinking about the physical effects on the runner as he dives through the bag — pioneered by the father/son duo that make up “Baseball con Ciencia” — shows that the diving runner could close the distance to the first base bag at a faster rate. Theoretically.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/diving-into-first-base-maybe-not-crazy/

 

As the link notes, this is not about injuries. This is purely about whether diving or running through the bag is faster. Take your injury arguments elsewhere.

 

I've long been in the minority (I think) by believing that diving could be (theoretically) slightly faster than running through the bag, but I know everyone has strong opinions on this.

It feels like it could be, if done perfectly by a guy with the right body type who practices it regularly. But it also seems like it just happens willy nilly a lot of the time which negates the likelihood that the diver is doing it the optimal way.

 

 

Also if you do it enough to make sure you are doing it the optimal way, that probably increases your chances of injury.

[Banedon]

a new way of thinking about the physical effects on the runner as he dives through the bag — pioneered by the father/son duo that make up “Baseball con Ciencia” — shows that the diving runner could close the distance to the first base bag at a faster rate. Theoretically.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/diving-into-first-base-maybe-not-crazy/

 

As the link notes, this is not about injuries. This is purely about whether diving or running through the bag is faster. Take your injury arguments elsewhere.

 

I've long been in the minority (I think) by believing that diving could be (theoretically) slightly faster than running through the bag, but I know everyone has strong opinions on this.

It feels like it could be, if done perfectly by a guy with the right body type who practices it regularly. But it also seems like it just happens willy nilly a lot of the time which negates the likelihood that the diver is doing it the optimal way.

 

 

Also if you do it enough to make sure you are doing it the optimal way, that probably increases your chances of injury.

 

No doubt, injury risk is the trump card that really invalidates the rest of the argument.

[Guest]

I saw the Twitter convo a couple nights ago, and I think the guy really undersells how difficult it would be to time with consistency. It's talking about an advantage of 4 inches, so you need to be able to time your stride pretty well to avoid slowing down at the start, compared to running through where it's far easier to adjust your foot mid-stride to make sure you hit the base at the end of the stride. I'm also not sure that you aren't making it more difficult for the umpire to call you safe too. Oh, and of course you'll probably kill yourself doing it enough times.

[ConstableRabbit]

To counter Stone's "do you see sprinters diving across the finish line" argument, maybe they would if they were diving into a bunch of pillows and not a track

 

Right. They don't dive, but they sure as hell lean forward in an attempt to get more horizontal.

Besides, they are trying to break a plane, not make contact with something on the ground.

[SouthSideRyan]

Free deucebaseman

[Banedon]

Free deucebaseman

 

Man, some of you guys have incredible memories for these banned posters. That was 7 years ago.

[Guest]

what was baseball78978723948707's deal again?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

That was 7 years ago.

Holy. [expletive].

[Guest]

That was 7 years ago.

Holy. [expletive].

 

When the 2003 run became 10 years ago is when I officially went into [expletive] everything mode

[SouthSideRyan]

what was baseball78978723948707's deal again?

 

DICK MILLS

[Guest]

what was baseball78978723948707's deal again?

 

That he could throw hard enough to pitch at a junior college so his opinions immediately were more valuable than yours.

[Guest]

what was baseball78978723948707's deal again?

 

That he could throw hard enough to pitch at a junior college so his opinions immediately were more valuable than yours.

 

That's rightttt

[NonProfitCow]

a new way of thinking about the physical effects on the runner as he dives through the bag — pioneered by the father/son duo that make up “Baseball con Ciencia” — shows that the diving runner could close the distance to the first base bag at a faster rate. Theoretically.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/diving-into-first-base-maybe-not-crazy/

 

As the link notes, this is not about injuries. This is purely about whether diving or running through the bag is faster. Take your injury arguments elsewhere.

 

I've long been in the minority (I think) by believing that diving could be (theoretically) slightly faster than running through the bag, but I know everyone has strong opinions on this.

But did the author hit .500 in HS?

[Sammy Sofa]

Free deucebaseman

 

Man, some of you guys have incredible memories for these banned posters. That was 7 years ago.

 

Yeah, but that was easily a top 10 thread; maybe top 5.

[imb]

[expletive] me i posted here for 12 years

[Sammy Sofa]

I'm going to celebrate my 10th anniversary with a diabolical orgy with 10 stunningly beautiful people. That's how it works, right?

[Guest]

I'm going to celebrate my 10th anniversary with a diabolical orgy with 10 stunningly beautiful people. That's how it works, right?

 

or a world series berth

[imb]

I'm going to celebrate my 10th anniversary with a diabolical orgy with 10 stunningly beautiful people. That's how it works, right?

 

I'm here for the gang bang

[Sammy Sofa]

http://33.media.tumblr.com/4d11b0459067a189a219d4ee36859c67/tumblr_mjonc2NWfl1rciqrco1_400.gif

[Derwood]

 

Right. They don't dive, but they sure as hell lean forward

 

yes

 

in an attempt to get more horizontal.

 

no

[Sammy Sofa]

a new way of thinking about the physical effects on the runner as he dives through the bag — pioneered by the father/son duo that make up “Baseball con Ciencia” — shows that the diving runner could close the distance to the first base bag at a faster rate. Theoretically.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/diving-into-first-base-maybe-not-crazy/

 

As the link notes, this is not about injuries. This is purely about whether diving or running through the bag is faster. Take your injury arguments elsewhere.

 

I've long been in the minority (I think) by believing that diving could be (theoretically) slightly faster than running through the bag, but I know everyone has strong opinions on this.

 

It's pointless to discuss this if you're throwing down the absurd caveat that is in bold up there. It's impossible to separate the ridiculous jump in the chances of the runner injuring themselves from the act itself, so what does it matter if it's technically faster? There's basically zero chance that any benefit would come even remotely close to offsetting the spike in injuries if players were encouraged to do this.

[Guest]

Because the argument is about whether or not it's possible to get there faster by diving, not whether it's a good thing to do or not.