NFL week 12

[WrigleyField 22]

I mean Super Bowls are obviously great because it means you won 3-4 straight games, but in the context of defending my team, I'd feel pretty shameful about being the worst SB winner ever, specifically having a losing or 500 overall record. At that point your only option is to troll hard and act like you are actually the greatest SB winner ever for overcoming adversity.

 

 

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[jersey cubs fan]

I mean Super Bowls are obviously great because it means you won 3-4 straight games, but in the context of defending my team, I'd feel pretty shameful about being the worst SB winner ever, specifically having a losing or 500 overall record. At that point your only option is to troll hard and act like you are actually the greatest SB winner ever for overcoming adversity.

 

Or just realize there's no need to defend your team's history against the arguments of others and enjoy the win.

[Sammy Sofa]

No kidding; this Bears team is humiliatingly bad, but if they fell into the playoffs ass backwards and went on some kind of miracle run it wouldn't be tainted at all by how terrible they are.

[WrigleyField 22]

It wouldn't take away from the the awesome 4 weeks, but at least part of the fun of sports and winning championships is bragging rights and every non-Bears fan would try to discredit it at every chance

 

That being said a Bears run right now would actually conclude with like 2.5 months of straight winning and an overall 14 win record and at least half those over good teams so that's more than a little different than a hypothetical 5-11 Falcons who literally stumble into the playoffs despite losing for nearly 1.5 straight months.

 

 

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[UMFan83]

No kidding; this Bears team is humiliatingly bad, but if they fell into the playoffs ass backwards and went on some kind of miracle run it wouldn't be tainted at all by how terrible they are.

 

Yeah I don't get this at all. The point of following a team is to watch them win a Super Bowl. Of course there's a limit where I might choose long term success over 1 Super Bowl (ie one guaranteed super bowl vs a 50% chance of winning each Super Bowl for the next 5 years) but almost always you take the title.

 

A smaller scale example is the Giants 2 Super Bowls where they were 9-7, snuck into the playoffs and no one gave them any chance of winning. When they won, haters tried to downplay their run as lucky but I know no Giants fan gives a [expletive] because they got to celebrate, they got the parade and they got the banner.

[Sammy Sofa]

It wouldn't take away from the the awesome 4 weeks, but at least part of the fun of sports and winning championships is bragging rights and every non-Bears fan would try to discredit it at every chance

 

So let them try; the damn thing would still be won.

[Cubswin11]

It wouldn't take away from the the awesome 4 weeks, but at least part of the fun of sports and winning championships is bragging rights and every non-Bears fan would try to discredit it at every chance

 

That being said a Bears run right now would actually conclude with like 2.5 months of straight winning and an overall 14 win record and at least half those over good teams so that's more than a little different than a hypothetical 5-11 Falcons who literally stumble into the playoffs despite losing for nearly 1.5 straight months.

 

 

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A run like that would be similar to what the Packers did in their super bowl run, iirc.

[Splendid Splinter]

It wouldn't take away from the the awesome 4 weeks, but at least part of the fun of sports and winning championships is bragging rights and every non-Bears fan would try to discredit it at every chance

 

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People tried to discredit the Cardinals back in 2006 when they won the WS even though they had only 83 wins. It didn't work as they didn't care just like every Bears fan if they won it all somehow this year.

[Andy]

It wouldn't take away from the the awesome 4 weeks, but at least part of the fun of sports and winning championships is bragging rights and every non-Bears fan would try to discredit it at every chance

 

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People tried to discredit the Cardinals back in 2006 when they won the WS even though they had only 83 wins. It didn't work as they didn't care.

Barely anyone remembers how terrible Arizona was the year they got to the Super Bowl (9-7, but I believe they were outscored for the season by a relatively significant margin). They only remember how great that Super Bowl was. In the long run, most people really only remember the banner.

[jersey cubs fan]

It wouldn't take away from the the awesome 4 weeks, but at least part of the fun of sports and winning championships is bragging rights and every non-Bears fan would try to discredit it at every chance

 

you'll grow out of that

[WrigleyField 22]

It wouldn't take away from the the awesome 4 weeks, but at least part of the fun of sports and winning championships is bragging rights and every non-Bears fan would try to discredit it at every chance

 

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People tried to discredit the Cardinals back in 2006 when they won the WS even though they had only 83 wins. It didn't work as they didn't care just like every Bears fan if they won it all somehow this year.

Yea I still try to discredit that [expletive] to my Cardinals friends. That team sucked and had no business even being there just like a 5-7 win NFL team.

 

I get this argument gets used on 9-7 teams as well but, that disparity is on a whole other level from even that. The difference between a win here or there can be quite thin.

 

 

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[WrigleyField 22]

It wouldn't take away from the the awesome 4 weeks, but at least part of the fun of sports and winning championships is bragging rights and every non-Bears fan would try to discredit it at every chance

 

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People tried to discredit the Cardinals back in 2006 when they won the WS even though they had only 83 wins. It didn't work as they didn't care just like every Bears fan if they won it all somehow this year.

I hate to repeat myself, but the 2014 Bears winning a SB isn't really what's being talked about because that would involve a team winning a ton of games. Including leading up to a SB run.

 

 

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[WrigleyField 22]

As an example the 2008 Ari Cardinals and 2011 Giants kept no 10 win NFC team out of the playoffs (2008 saw a 11 win Pats held out but also a 8-8 chargers make it in the AFC) so they had decent claims to belonging in the playoff system. The 2006 STL Cardinals kept only one NL team out (and it was very close) but also like 4 significantly better AL teams.

 

 

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[UMFan83]

As an example the 2008 Ari Cardinals and 2011 Giants kept no 10 win NFC team out of the playoffs (2008 saw a 11 win Pats held out but also a 8-8 chargers make it in the AFC) so they had decent claims to belonging in the playoff system. The 2006 STL Cardinals kept only one NL team out (and it was very close) but also like 4 significantly better AL teams.

 

 

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I don't get what your point is? The 2006 Phillies don't recognize the Cardinals championship because their team won more games than them?

 

Again, the end game is a championship. Would I prefer to see the Cubs win the championship after a 105 win regular season over a team that wins 83 games and sneaks in? Yeah...but the difference between the 2 is not very negligable.

[WrigleyField 22]

As an example the 2008 Ari Cardinals and 2011 Giants kept no 10 win NFC team out of the playoffs (2008 saw a 11 win Pats held out but also a 8-8 chargers make it in the AFC) so they had decent claims to belonging in the playoff system. The 2006 STL Cardinals kept only one NL team out (and it was very close) but also like 4 significantly better AL teams.

 

 

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I don't get what your point is? The 2006 Phillies don't recognize the Cardinals championship because their team won more games than them?

Just that they were a pathetic team that was even lucky to have the chance to go on that run. Ie "didn't belong there"

 

 

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[Sammy Sofa]

I don't understand how you possibly think you can use that to somehow "discredit" that they actually won the WS.

[jersey cubs fan]

I don't understand how you possibly think you can use that to somehow "discredit" that they actually won the WS.

 

Plus how sad it is that we're all desperate to see the Cubs rise to the level of pathetic he defined above.

[WrigleyField 22]

I mean obviously it happened but the WS doesn't take away from them being a crappy team.

 

 

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[Sammy Sofa]

It kindasortamaybedefinitely does?

[jersey cubs fan]

I mean obviously it happened but the WS doesn't take away from them being a crappy team.

 

you keep telling yourself that

[Cubswin11]

I know we all want a juggernaut team of dong monsters that wins 120 games and steam rolls through the playoffs and eventual WS title, but I'd be perfectly fine with a Cubs team that struggled to get into the playoffs via the WC and went on to win a WS.

[WrigleyField 22]

I'm gonna laugh if a 5-11 Falcons wins the SB and I don't wanna be the fan of a team that gets laughed at (putting into question my Cubs fandom). At least the 83 win Cardinals had winning records so I can relent on that and just hate the 06 Cardinals cuz of the rivalry. A 5-11 Falcons or even 6-10 would be like the short track speed skater who advances because everyone else wiped out. Yay?

 

 

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Edited November 25, 2014 by WrigleyField 22

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm gonna laugh if a 5-11 Falcons wins the WS

 

I don't know what my reaction would be, but it might be laughing.

[WrigleyField 22]

WS, SB, whatever

 

 

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[Sammy Sofa]

I'm gonna laugh if a 5-11 Falcons wins the WS and I don't wanna be the fan of a team that gets laughed at (putting into question my Cubs fandom). At least the aforementioned 9-7 NFL teams and 83 win Cardinals had winning records so I can relent on that and just hate the 06 Cardinals cuz of the rivalry. A 5-11 Falcons or even 6-10 would be like the short track speed skater who advances because everyone else wiped out. Yay?

 

 

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Except not, because they still have to win the playoff games and Super Bowl.