Cole Hamels Traded to Rangers

[Guest]

Nothing about this team screams "playoffs!".

 

How about the 4th best starting pitching in baseball?

 

Or a team that's 53-47 with a lineup with many young hitters that have underperformed?

 

Or the fact that they were like 75% to make the playoffs a week ago (currently a respectable 42% on BP and FG) before their roughest stretch of the season coincided with the Giants getting red hot?

[Guest]

Nothing about this team screams "playoffs!". They haven't won an easy game since two Sundays ago in Atlanta when they won by a whopping 3 runs and this is a stretch against all bottomfeeders. If the Cubs are going to make the playoffs, it's going to need to come from within.

 

Yeah, too bad they're not world-beaters like the 2006 Cardinals or anything. They of the 8 and 7-game losing streaks and going 35-39 in the second half and going 83-78 overall and who went 9-11 in their final 20 games.

 

or the [expletive] 2003 cubs beating the 100 win braves

[Gilby]

I can't believe how many Cubs fans don't think they have a shot to do anything this year. It's funny because this time of the year when fans are discussing playoffs, most like to over-simplify a team's chances based on how good their top of the rotation is, and our 1-2 is as good as, if not better than, every other NL team besides the Dodgers. That type of meatball thinking is more fun than fatalism.

 

I get that the Phillies series really sucked and was damaging, but man, it didn't totally ruin the season.

[ARCubsFan]

Nothing about this team screams "playoffs!".

 

How about the 4th best starting pitching in baseball?

the 4th worst offense in baseball effectively cancels this out

[Guest]

Nothing about this team screams "playoffs!".

 

How about the 4th best starting pitching in baseball?

the 4th worst offense in baseball effectively cancels this out

 

clearly it hasn't

 

also, the cubs are FIFTEENTH in position player WAR, so despite their offensive badness, the other part of the team hasn't been an unmitigated disaster

Edited July 30, 2015 by David

[ARCubsFan]

I mean if the Cubs aren't going to make a move by Friday, clearly they agree with me. And it's dumb to not trust what management has done over the past few years. They know what they're doing and they know where the team stands.

[Guest]

I mean if the Cubs aren't going to make a move by Friday, clearly they agree with me. And it's dumb to not trust what management has done over the past few years. They know what they're doing and they know where the team stands.

 

no, that doesn't necessarily mean that

 

and they probably are going to make a move by Friday

[Guest]

Nothing about this team screams "playoffs!". They haven't won an easy game since two Sundays ago in Atlanta when they won by a whopping 3 runs and this is a stretch against all bottomfeeders. If the Cubs are going to make the playoffs, it's going to need to come from within.

 

Without looking it up, name 5 position players and 3 starting pitchers on the Giants.

[sneakypower]

i always love when mojo starts spazzing out because we can't have one of the like 10 players he knows

[SRQCub]

Nothing about this team screams "playoffs!". They haven't won an easy game since two Sundays ago in Atlanta when they won by a whopping 3 runs and this is a stretch against all bottomfeeders. If the Cubs are going to make the playoffs, it's going to need to come from within.

 

Without looking it up, name 5 position players and 3 starting pitchers on the Giants.

 

So, not trying to be snarky, but what does that prove? Those nameless players are hitting the ball much better than the Cubs are. They are significantly better in the slash categories and are scoring a half run a game more than we are. We are pitching a little better than they are.

 

Is there a reasonably priced starter and a decent bat available? If so, why has the FO not made a move for either? Could it be that money really is keeping us from taking on much salary right now?

[Sammy Sofa]

i always love when mojo starts spazzing out because we can't have one of the like 10 players he knows

 

Where am I spazzing out? All I want them to do is to improve their chances this season because they're a competitive team and it irks me when Cubs fans act like they shouldn't bother because the offense has struggled. The FO has assured us they'd make those type of moves when they were competitive, so it's hardly an unrealistic expectation.

[Guest]

Nothing about this team screams "playoffs!". They haven't won an easy game since two Sundays ago in Atlanta when they won by a whopping 3 runs and this is a stretch against all bottomfeeders. If the Cubs are going to make the playoffs, it's going to need to come from within.

 

Without looking it up, name 5 position players and 3 starting pitchers on the Giants.

 

So, not trying to be snarky, but what does that prove? Those nameless players are hitting the ball much better than the Cubs are. They are significantly better in the slash categories and are scoring a half run a game more than we are. We are pitching a little better than they are.

 

Is there a reasonably priced starter and a decent bat available? If so, why has the FO not made a move for either? Could it be that money really is keeping us from taking on much salary right now?

 

It's illustrating that this particular poster doesn't actually know anything about the quality of the players and teams involved, and is simply reacting based on whatever has happened most recently. Giants had a winning streak and Cubs only treaded water, must mean 'nothing about the Cubs screams playoffs' and 'the Giants look like they're going to roll through the rest of the season'. It's reactionary nonsense.

[Cubswin11]

i always love when mojo starts spazzing out because we can't have one of the like 10 players he knows

 

Where am I spazzing out? All I want them to do is to improve their chances this season because they're a competitive team and it irks me when Cubs fans act like they shouldn't bother because the offense has struggled. The FO has assured us they'd make those type of moves when they were competitive, so it's hardly an unrealistic expectation.

Quit deflecting, damnit and name 10 god damn players

[Sammy Sofa]

i always love when mojo starts spazzing out because we can't have one of the like 10 players he knows

 

Where am I spazzing out? All I want them to do is to improve their chances this season because they're a competitive team and it irks me when Cubs fans act like they shouldn't bother because the offense has struggled. The FO has assured us they'd make those type of moves when they were competitive, so it's hardly an unrealistic expectation.

Quit deflecting, damnit and name 10 [expletive] players

 

Dracula, Blacula and Son of Kong.

[SRQCub]

It's illustrating that this particular poster doesn't actually know anything about the quality of the players and teams involved, and is simply reacting based on whatever has happened most recently. Giants had a winning streak and Cubs only treaded water, must mean 'nothing about the Cubs screams playoffs' and 'the Giants look like they're going to roll through the rest of the season'. It's reactionary nonsense.

 

Oh, okay.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

And it's dumb to not trust what management has done over the past few years.

 

What they've done over the years is prove they can lose a whole lot of baseball games.

[ARCubsFan]

And it's dumb to not trust what management has done over the past few years.

 

What they've done over the years is prove they can lose a whole lot of baseball games.

http://cdn3.teen.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/james-franco-realization.gif

[Hairyducked Idiot]

And it's dumb to not trust what management has done over the past few years.

 

What they've done over the years is prove they can lose a whole lot of baseball games.

http://cdn3.teen.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/james-franco-realization.gif

 

Is that the face Theo makes when he realizes he's in danger of going his 7th straight year without winning a singe playoff game?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Tim is reading this thread and getting the itch to try again with his Sporcle ripoff.

[SRQCub]

And it's dumb to not trust what management has done over the past few years.

 

What they've done over the years is prove they can lose a whole lot of baseball games.

 

While building a system that can win a whole lot of baseball games.

[ARCubsFan]

Yeah Christ, the goal is to be good the next 10 years and beyond. I'm sure you were a big fan of Jim Hendry's splurges such as giving up Chris Archer for Matt Garza for a team that had no chance of competing.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

While building a system that can win a whole lot of baseball games.

 

But not the baseball games on the schedule right now. Just future baseball games where it's really easy to make big promises because there's no accountability until it becomes the present, at which point you can just start pointing to the new future.

[Sammy Sofa]

Yeah Christ, the goal is to be good the next 10 years and beyond. I'm sure you were a big fan of Jim Hendry's splurges such as giving up Chris Archer for Matt Garza for a team that had no chance of competing.

 

What are some of those other splurges.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Yeah Christ, the goal is to be good the next 10 years and beyond.

 

That's a meaningless goal that they have no ability to reasonably carry out, and certainly no history of it. Even the Red Sox' run only lasted 7 years, plus one dead cat bounce a few years later.

 

Saying "we want to be good for 10 years" is just picking a random large chunk of future that sounds impressive.

Edited July 30, 2015 by Hairyducked Idiot

[ARCubsFan]

Yeah Christ, the goal is to be good the next 10 years and beyond. I'm sure you were a big fan of Jim Hendry's splurges such as giving up Chris Archer for Matt Garza for a team that had no chance of competing.

 

What are some of those other splurges.

Signing a 32 year old Alfonso Soriano to a 8 year/$136 million deal with 2 bad knees and no experience in the OF comes to mind as one.