Samardzija trade rumors

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Levine was on the radio this morning re-hashing this article from a couple days ago, with more focus on a potential trade than the contract negotiation bit: http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/04/05/levine-samardzijas-days-in-chicago-growing-short/

 

He mentioned while early season trades of that magnitude are rare, the rash of injuries this spring might make things happen sooner than later. He reiterated the Blue Jays were the most interested(also mentioning Atlanta), specifically mentioning Sanchez while alluding to two pitching prospects, which to me sounded like a pretty clear reference to Stroman too. The implication was that both need to be included for the Blue Jays to have a chance at Shark.

 

For those looking for more insidery info, Marlin Bystro spoke up on the topic:

 

Yes....not only is the money off, but the years as well. I also think Samardzija wants out too. He should be the first big name player traded this year. The last start count can start right now.

 

[in response to someone hoping he'd get traded to KC or another pitcher friendly park for fantasy purposes] KC is in the mix.

 

Personally, KC and Toronto are the names I want to hear if Samardzija is going to be dealt. Get 2 of Ventura/Duffy/Zimmer or Stroman/Sanchez/Nolin and a 3rd interesting but less important guy, and something could work.

[Banedon]

So, why does Shark want out so bad? Is it that the Cubs won't pay him what he wants, or is there another reason?

[Guest]

Can Manaea be traded yet?

 

Trying to remember the rule on that

[Guest]

Can Manaea be traded yet?

 

Trying to remember the rule on that

 

Not til after this year's draft.

[Guest]

So, why does Shark want out so bad? Is it that the Cubs won't pay him what he wants, or is there another reason?

 

I think the whole losing 90 games a year every year might be getting on his nerves

[jersey cubs fan]

So, why does Shark want out so bad? Is it that the Cubs won't pay him what he wants, or is there another reason?

 

The Cubs don't want to pay him what he thinks he is worth and playing on a team that loses the majority of the time they play is depressing as hell.

[Banedon]

Ok, well that's obviously a decent reason. I just didn't know if the Cubs did something specific that he took personally or something...if there was some bad blood there.

[Guest]

Ok, well that's obviously a decent reason. I just didn't know if the Cubs did something specific that he took personally or something...if there was some bad blood there.

 

However connected you think Levine might be, he calls out specifically that it's not a source of animosity in the article, but just a factual disagreement on the valuation.

 

That there are no real bad guys in this disagreement is factual. Samardzija wants to be paid like the ace of the Cubs staff for now and going forward the next six years. The Cubs want to prorate the pitchers money according to what he has accomplished and what they feel is a reasonable projection of results between now and the pitcher’s 35th birthday.

[Guest]

Ok, well that's obviously a decent reason. I just didn't know if the Cubs did something specific that he took personally or something...if there was some bad blood there.

 

I think it's the combination of the Cubs holding firm in their position in terms of their negotiations, the fact that they're trying to trade him, and the fact that they won't improve the major league team.

[jersey cubs fan]

The Cubs want to prorate the pitchers money according to what he has accomplished and what they feel is a reasonable projection of results between now and the pitcher’s 35th birthday.

 

That's a whole bunch of unnecessary words.

[Guest]

For whatever stock anyone wants to put into what ABTY says at this point, he did say a couple of weeks ago that Samardzija wanted out and that an extension just wasn't happening.

[Banedon]

Ok, well that's obviously a decent reason. I just didn't know if the Cubs did something specific that he took personally or something...if there was some bad blood there.

 

However connected you think Levine might be, he calls out specifically that it's not a source of animosity in the article, but just a factual disagreement on the valuation.

 

That there are no real bad guys in this disagreement is factual. Samardzija wants to be paid like the ace of the Cubs staff for now and going forward the next six years. The Cubs want to prorate the pitchers money according to what he has accomplished and what they feel is a reasonable projection of results between now and the pitcher’s 35th birthday.

 

I guess I should've read all the words.

[Guest]

Here's the stuff ABTY said. Guess it was only like a week ago.

 

 

 

Ty Youngfelt ‏@TyYoungfelt Mar 29

Cubs twice this offseason thought they had a deal in place to trade Samardzija only to have team back away at 'the goalline'...

 

Ty Youngfelt ‏@TyYoungfelt Mar 29

Shark was more willing to give a little in contract prior to the two deals- now will not budge an inch from # for Cubs, but may for new team

 

Ty Youngfelt ‏@TyYoungfelt Mar 29

Wants badly to stay in NL, a.) Enjoys hitting b.) Feels like he knows the league very well now & c.) Wants to stick it to Theo/team...

 

Ty Youngfelt ‏@TyYoungfelt Mar 29

@TimBernier31 Dunno but given '$3M' per gap between asking & offered, hard to figure asking can be less than Bailey...

[Felix Leiter]

Trade him now while other competitive teams starters are struggling. We're 2-3 years before we're competitive.

[NOLA]

Trade him now while other competitive teams starters are struggling. We're 2-3 years before we're competitive.

NO. Just no.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Trade him now while other competitive teams starters are struggling. We're 2-3 years before we're competitive.

NO. Just no.

 

It's really not impossible to envision.

[Sammy Sofa]

Trade him now while other competitive teams starters are struggling. We're 2-3 years before we're competitive.

NO. Just no.

 

It's really not impossible to envision.

 

It's more sad how many people just accept it.

[Banedon]

Trade him now while other competitive teams starters are struggling. We're 2-3 years before we're competitive.

 

Trade him now...or trade him at the deadline, what's the difference? If you don't get the deal you need now, then wait.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Everyone wears down eventually.

 

If Starlin Castro is really the .280 OBP guy he's been for a year and a week, and Anthony Rizzo is kinda ordinary, then this team's window *still* might be several years away, as depressing as that is.

[NOLA]

I guess if we get down to one's definition of "competitive", but I see that meaning playing meaningful games into August, or within 5 games of the last WC. IMO, we are there next year. If the Cubs lose 90 games next year, I'm not drinking the Kool Aid anymore.

[A New Era]

Everyone wears down eventually.

 

If Starlin Castro is really the .280 OBP guy he's been for a year and a week, and Anthony Rizzo is kinda ordinary, then this team's window *still* might be several years away, as depressing as that is.

 

Please don't. I think this is why I have panic disorder (not you, the Cubs).

[Guest]

Shark is sort of a prima donna, isn't he?

 

At the same time this is probably the last time he will be able cash in on a big contract. I can see him being a late sign when he hits FA if he's demanding ace money.

[SouthSideRyan]

Shark is sort of a prima donna, isn't he?

 

At the same time this is probably the last time he will be able cash in on a big contract. I can see him being a late sign when he hits FA if he's demanding ace money.

 

He's a primadonna because he doesn't want to accept less money than he's worth?

[Guest]

Shark is sort of a prima donna, isn't he?

 

At the same time this is probably the last time he will be able cash in on a big contract. I can see him being a late sign when he hits FA if he's demanding ace money.

 

He's a primadonna because he doesn't want to accept less money than he's worth?

He's a primadonna because he thinks he worth more than he can get. Maybe not the right descriptor for him, but he seems to have an inflated sense of worth. I'm not saying I blame him.

Edited April 7, 2014 by CubinNY

[SABR Gamer]

Shark is sort of a prima donna, isn't he?

 

At the same time this is probably the last time he will be able cash in on a big contract. I can see him being a late sign when he hits FA if he's demanding ace money.

 

He's a primadonna because he doesn't want to accept less money than he's worth?

He's a primadonna because he thinks he worth more than he can get. Many not the right descriptor for him, but he seems to have an inflated sense of worth. I'm not saying I blame him.

 

The Cubs are kind of low-balling him.