3/3 - Cubs games (Giants/Brewers)

[wekim81]

I don’t know if someone’s mentioned it yet, but Pat is calling new pbp guy Ron Coomer “Ronnie”. Its freaking me out everytime he says it.

[Guest]

well I'm still assuming Castro is going to be the opening day SS.

 

I know...I'm just saying them "letting" him play 2B or 3B isn't what's keeping him out of the big leagues. When it's time for him to play in the big leagues, he'll play at 2B or 3B, probably depending largely on what we see from Mike Olt between now and then.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

well I'm still assuming Castro is going to be the opening day SS.

 

I know...I'm just saying them "letting" him play 2B or 3B isn't what's keeping him out of the big leagues. When it's time for him to play in the big leagues, he'll play at 2B or 3B, probably depending largely on what we see from Mike Olt between now and then.

 

Well, yeah. I'm talking hypotheticals and possibly getting confused.

[Smack]

I don’t know if someone’s mentioned it yet, but Pat is calling new pbp guy Ron Coomer “Ronnie”. Its freaking me out everytime he says it.

 

Yeah, that's going to be hard to get used to.

[Guest]

Imagine how awesome it would be if Mike Olt turned into gold (or at least a productive player) and then we added Javy and Starlin rebounded.

 

This team would get interesting pretty damn quick. Not great, but definitely fun to watch.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Playoff team in 2015 if that happened.

[Gmoney08]

No reason to start his clock in a lost season.

 

 

What is the magic date this year that we would likely want to wait till before starting his clock?

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

I think it's always June 20-something.

[Guest]

I think it's always June 20-something.

 

Wasn't that only the case for Rizzo because he had already used up service time in 2011?

 

I think it's a good amount sooner than that (though I still think Javy stays in AAA until at least June)

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

I think it's always June 20-something.

 

Wasn't that only the case for Rizzo because he had already used up service time in 2011?

 

I think it's a good amount sooner than that (though I still think Javy stays in AAA until at least June)

 

Crap, you're right.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

http://www.fangraphs.com/library/principles/contract-details/service-time-super-two/

A year of service time is equal to 172 days, and there are normally around 183 total days in the major league calendar. This means that if a team wants to keep a prospect from accruing a full year of service time, they simply need to leave that player in the minors for around 15-20 days out of the entire season. For example, the Rays left Evan Longoria in the minors for the first two weeks of the 2008 season; as a result, if Longoria hadn’t signed his long-term contract, he would have been under team control through the 2014 season instead of the 2013 season. Technically, this demotion could happen at any point of the year, but it’s most common for teams to leave a prospect in the minors for the first month or so of the season before calling them up.

[Guest]

http://www.fangraphs.com/library/principles/contract-details/service-time-super-two/

A year of service time is equal to 172 days, and there are normally around 183 total days in the major league calendar. This means that if a team wants to keep a prospect from accruing a full year of service time, they simply need to leave that player in the minors for around 15-20 days out of the entire season. For example, the Rays left Evan Longoria in the minors for the first two weeks of the 2008 season; as a result, if Longoria hadn’t signed his long-term contract, he would have been under team control through the 2014 season instead of the 2013 season. Technically, this demotion could happen at any point of the year, but it’s most common for teams to leave a prospect in the minors for the first month or so of the season before calling them up.

 

Yep, I remembered how crazy it seemed when Jackie Bradley broke camp with the team because of that.

[SouthSideRyan]

It also depends on how cheap were going to be. If we want to avoid super 2 status, 2.5 months seems like the safe play. My fear is they're a held down through late April '15 because...ya know

[Guest]

Imagine how awesome it would be if Mike Olt turned into gold (or at least a productive player) and then we added Javy and Starlin rebounded.

 

This team would get interesting pretty damn quick. Not great, but definitely fun to watch.

 

if Starlin returned to 3-4 WAR form, Javy, Bryant, and Olt all hit for power.........a very fun offense that pounds pitchers into dust.

[Clem Fandango]

Rizzo, too, you guys.

[Guest]

Rizzo, too, you guys.

 

I make a point of it not to include him because I think he was pretty good last year and his disappointing numbers were more luck related than most realize.

[Guest]

Javy defensive highlight

 

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/26663958/v31426427/chcmil-baez-races-for-overtheshoulder-catch

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Javy defensive highlight

 

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/26663958/v31426427/chcmil-baez-races-for-overtheshoulder-catch

Javier Baez makes a slick over-the-shoulder catch to rob Scooter Gennett of a base hit

Dumbest name ever.

[mul21]

Javy defensive highlight

 

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/26663958/v31426427/chcmil-baez-races-for-overtheshoulder-catch

Javier Baez makes a slick over-the-shoulder catch to rob Scooter Gennett of a base hit

Dumbest name ever.

 

I'll raise you a Gookie Dawkins and a Stubby Clapp.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Rusty Kuntz. Or is that the best name ever.