Week 15: Bears (7-6) @ Browns (4-9) Noon, FOX

[Wilson A2000]

and he just led his team to 3 straight TDs in the 4th quarter against a decent defense when his team needed it most. Jay proved that he is the QB of the present and future today.

 

Weren't they the 17th rated pass defense? No Haden for the 4th quarter?

[Banedon]

Sure will be nice if we can get Briggs back this week.

[Guest]

I swear, I just don't understand the love for Jay Cutler on here, or some Bears fans I meet in person for that matter. I'm not saying that McNown should be starting or anything like that, but is there not a ceiling for how good the Bears can be with Jay at QB? He just makes a ton of terrible Romo-like decisions over and over. I am not trying to trash the guy, but I just genuinely want to understand the defiant love for the guy.

 

I love him because he's extremely talented, and while I'll admit he's not the greatest QB ever and has his issues, at his best he's among the best QBs in the league, a tough SOB and makes throws that I used to have wet dreams about in grade school. But I think really won me over was his personality (which admittedly has little to do with whether he should be the QB). Part because the media has decided that Jay Cutler is an aloof jackass who doesn't care about anything, and hey that's our dude, stfu. Also because his appearances on the Jay Cutler radio show prove that he's actually a pretty cool dude.

 

i've said this before about him, he is the Neo to Aaron Rodgers' Agent Smith. Rodgers is just about the best QB to play the game, but he is bound by the rules of the matrix whereas Jay Cutler can write the code when it all comes together for him.

[BigSlick]

Cowboys just put the dagger in.

 

Do the Packers still need to lose next week to be eliminated? I really want there to be 0 chance of them making the playoffs before the Bears game

[NOLA]

OK. I got it. I am terribly sorry I mixed up McCown with McNown. That doesn't make Jay great.

AGAIN, this isn't about saying Jay should be benched. I wonder going into next year if you guys are that sold on him, and just defending him because meatballs hate him is crazy talk. He is very talented, but he does make terrible mistakes. You can't deny that.

Nope, not "giving up football", but thanks for the insight.

[Guest]

and he just led his team to 3 straight TDs in the 4th quarter against a decent defense when his team needed it most. Jay proved that he is the QB of the present and future today.

 

Weren't they the 17th rated pass defense? No Haden for the 4th quarter?

 

i said decent. and that defense played well against Tom Brady last week.

[WrigleyField 22]

To add to what UMFan and Sulley said, also just throw on top of years of QB abuse. Eric Kramer was our greatest QB ever (not including a guy who transformed NFL offenses with the T formation). I'm gonna stick up for him more just because of that no matter how meatbally it is.

 

But they bring up very good points as well.

 

And I can still empathize with a anti-Cutler movement but the choice isn't McCown, but rather a few years of Cutler under which a guy we draft this year grooms under him.

[Guest]

OK. I got it. I am terribly sorry I mixed up McCown with McNown. That doesn't make Jay great.

AGAIN, this isn't about saying Jay should be benched. I wonder going into next year if you guys are that sold on him, and just defending him because meatballs hate him is crazy talk. He is very talented, but he does make terrible mistakes. You can't deny that.

Nope, not "giving up football", but thanks for the insight.

 

i really think that you should, it obviously doesn't want you around.

[UMFan83]

Boy the Packers suck. If the Lions win tomorow (which we don't want of course but for the sake of discussion), the Packers will be 6-7-1 behind 2 8-6 teams, meaning the only way they make the playoffs is winning next week, the Lions losing out, the Bears losing next week setting up a 'winner goes to the playoffs' game at Soldier Field in week 17.

[Banedon]

OK. I got it. I am terribly sorry I mixed up McCown with McNown. That doesn't make Jay great.

AGAIN, this isn't about saying Jay should be benched. I wonder going into next year if you guys are that sold on him, and just defending him because meatballs hate him is crazy talk. He is very talented, but he does make terrible mistakes. You can't deny that.

Nope, not "giving up football", but thanks for the insight.

 

In all seriousness, if the Bears let Jay go....who is your QB of the future? 34 year old Josh McCown? Do you remember what a truly bad QB looks like? We've had a lot of them. They don't look a thing like Jay Cutler.

[Sammy Sofa]

OK. I got it. I am terribly sorry I mixed up McCown with McNown. That doesn't make Jay great.

AGAIN, this isn't about saying Jay should be benched. I wonder going into next year if you guys are that sold on him

 

Of course, unless he won't bend on wanting crazy money.

[KaiserCesar]

I swear, I just don't understand the love for Jay Cutler on here, or some Bears fans I meet in person for that matter. I'm not saying that McNown should be starting or anything like that, but is there not a ceiling for how good the Bears can be with Jay at QB? He just makes a ton of terrible Romo-like decisions over and over. I am not trying to trash the guy, but I just genuinely want to understand the defiant love for the guy.

Cade McNown is not a better option than Jay Cutler, no matter how many meatballs say differently.

 

OK, like I said, I get that. Going forward, how is Jay definitely your guy though?

 

he is a good quarterback. one does not simply let a good quarterback go without his imminent replacement in hand. mccown is not an acceptable replacement.

 

Plus, CBS ran a story this morning that the Bears will have no exclusive window to negotiate with McCown. They can only offer him another league-minimum deal before the start of free agency.

 

edit: here's the link http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24375969/the-ironic-reason-why-the-bears-cant-extend-josh-mccown

Edited December 15, 2013 by KaiserCesar

[Wilson A2000]

I swear, I just don't understand the love for Jay Cutler on here, or some Bears fans I meet in person for that matter. I'm not saying that McNown should be starting or anything like that, but is there not a ceiling for how good the Bears can be with Jay at QB? He just makes a ton of terrible Romo-like decisions over and over. I am not trying to trash the guy, but I just genuinely want to understand the defiant love for the guy.

 

I love him because he's extremely talented, and while I'll admit he's not the greatest QB ever and has his issues, at his best he's among the best QBs in the league, a tough SOB and makes throws that I used to have wet dreams about in grade school. But I think really won me over was his personality (which admittedly has little to do with whether he should be the QB). Part because the media has decided that Jay Cutler is an aloof jackass who doesn't care about anything, and hey that's our dude, stfu. Also because his appearances on the Jay Cutler radio show prove that he's actually a pretty cool dude.

 

i've said this before about him, he is the Neo to Aaron Rodgers' Agent Smith. Rodgers is just about the best QB to play the game, but he is bound by the rules of the matrix whereas Jay Cutler can write the code when it all comes together for him.

 

That's so stupid I could have said it. Rodgers has owned Cutler.

[Banedon]

Jeff Dickerson ‏@ESPNChiBears 53m

Cutler still hasn't seen replay of Alshon Jeffery TD. Said first thought when he released the ball after being hit, "there's (INT) No. 3."

[Guest]

OK. I got it. I am terribly sorry I mixed up McCown with McNown. That doesn't make Jay great.

AGAIN, this isn't about saying Jay should be benched. I wonder going into next year if you guys are that sold on him, and just defending him because meatballs hate him is crazy talk. He is very talented, but he does make terrible mistakes. You can't deny that.

Nope, not "giving up football", but thanks for the insight.

 

In all seriousness, if the Bears let Jay go....who is your QB of the future? 34 year old Josh McCown? Do you remember what a truly bad QB looks like? We've had a lot of them. They don't look a thing like Jay Cutler.

 

the meatballs hating him is just a perk to loving Jay so much.

 

AND NO ONE IS SAYING THAT JAY IS GREAT. he is good with the potential to be great, but I'll take good in the meantime.

[rawaction]

The Packers won a [expletive] with Favre throwing INTs left and right. Jay's not as good as Favre, but this is the first time he's had anything resembling the level of talent Favre had around him. The INTs suck. But it's not stupid throws he's making like Romo has done. He's just making bad throws. Both throws today were missed. Behind Marshall in the end zone and obviously way over his head the 2nd time. That seems to be his biggest issue. In the past it was Hester and Knox running wrong/bad routes, combined with a few bad throws. Recently it's been bad throws. Every QB makes a handful of just awful reads per year that get picked. Peyton had one Thursday night.

 

This game was Jay Cutler in a nutshell. A couple bad throws, but when he got in a rhythm he ended up winning the game. And I'm Ok with that.

[Guest]

I swear, I just don't understand the love for Jay Cutler on here, or some Bears fans I meet in person for that matter. I'm not saying that McNown should be starting or anything like that, but is there not a ceiling for how good the Bears can be with Jay at QB? He just makes a ton of terrible Romo-like decisions over and over. I am not trying to trash the guy, but I just genuinely want to understand the defiant love for the guy.

 

I love him because he's extremely talented, and while I'll admit he's not the greatest QB ever and has his issues, at his best he's among the best QBs in the league, a tough SOB and makes throws that I used to have wet dreams about in grade school. But I think really won me over was his personality (which admittedly has little to do with whether he should be the QB). Part because the media has decided that Jay Cutler is an aloof jackass who doesn't care about anything, and hey that's our dude, stfu. Also because his appearances on the Jay Cutler radio show prove that he's actually a pretty cool dude.

 

i've said this before about him, he is the Neo to Aaron Rodgers' Agent Smith. Rodgers is just about the best QB to play the game, but he is bound by the rules of the matrix whereas Jay Cutler can write the code when it all comes together for him.

 

That's so stupid I could have said it. Rodgers has owned Cutler.

 

i think you underestimate your own stupidity.

[Sammy Sofa]

I swear, I just don't understand the love for Jay Cutler on here, or some Bears fans I meet in person for that matter. I'm not saying that McNown should be starting or anything like that, but is there not a ceiling for how good the Bears can be with Jay at QB? He just makes a ton of terrible Romo-like decisions over and over. I am not trying to trash the guy, but I just genuinely want to understand the defiant love for the guy.

 

I love him because he's extremely talented, and while I'll admit he's not the greatest QB ever and has his issues, at his best he's among the best QBs in the league, a tough SOB and makes throws that I used to have wet dreams about in grade school. But I think really won me over was his personality (which admittedly has little to do with whether he should be the QB). Part because the media has decided that Jay Cutler is an aloof jackass who doesn't care about anything, and hey that's our dude, stfu. Also because his appearances on the Jay Cutler radio show prove that he's actually a pretty cool dude.

 

i've said this before about him, he is the Neo to Aaron Rodgers' Agent Smith. Rodgers is just about the best QB to play the game, but he is bound by the rules of the matrix whereas Jay Cutler can write the code when it all comes together for him.

 

That's so stupid I could have said it. Rodgers has owned Cutler.

 

Why do you hate fun?

[Sammy Sofa]

AND NO ONE IS SAYING THAT JAY IS GREAT. he is good with the potential to be great, but I'll take good in the meantime.

 

Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup.

[Wilson A2000]

I swear, I just don't understand the love for Jay Cutler on here, or some Bears fans I meet in person for that matter. I'm not saying that McNown should be starting or anything like that, but is there not a ceiling for how good the Bears can be with Jay at QB? He just makes a ton of terrible Romo-like decisions over and over. I am not trying to trash the guy, but I just genuinely want to understand the defiant love for the guy.

Cade McNown is not a better option than Jay Cutler, no matter how many meatballs say differently.

 

OK, like I said, I get that. Going forward, how is Jay definitely your guy though?

 

he is a good quarterback. one does not simply let a good quarterback go without his imminent replacement in hand. mccown is not an acceptable replacement.

 

Plus, CBS ran a story this morning that the Bears will have no exclusive window to negotiate with McCown. They can only offer him another league-minimum deal before the start of free agency.

 

I want McCown to be back because Jay gets hurt a lot. Backups do matter in the sense that you need one to hold the fort down if a guy like Cutler is out for a few weeks. Josh did that and more. As long as no one gives McCown $5-10 million to start, I'd imagine he'd be back here for $2 million. Campbell did get $3 million I think, but I don't think McCown does.

[Splendid Splinter]

I swear, I just don't understand the love for Jay Cutler on here, or some Bears fans I meet in person for that matter. I'm not saying that McNown should be starting or anything like that, but is there not a ceiling for how good the Bears can be with Jay at QB? He just makes a ton of terrible Romo-like decisions over and over. I am not trying to trash the guy, but I just genuinely want to understand the defiant love for the guy.

 

People like him because he has talent, more than any Bears QB in history. The Bears have been waiting for someone like him for years. I will say that at age 30, people do keep waiting for him to reach his potential. You can say that Flacco finally reached his potential last year and he is a late bloomer so to speak, and maybe with the right staff and offensive weapons Cutler can do the same. I'm sure I will be ridiculed for saying this, but it seems that when Cutler makes interceptions, it isn't like the defender made an incredible play and you just tip your hand to him. Maybe it is the meatball in me, but so many of them seem unavoidable.

 

The meatballs like me have some stupid reasons for hating Cutler and I think people defend him because his haters are just way off most of the time. So the backlash gets reversed into defending him more than he should be. Let's face it, he was a jerk for forcing a trade in Denver, hates the media, and is kind of a prick. You get a ton of hate for doing that.

 

 

Bold #1: While that's true and Cutler tries too much at times, but it seems like this year he had more tipped INTs than usual. That's usually as a result of "luck" instead of Cutler having bad decision making or force something out of nothing like his 1st INT today. The 2nd was mainly on Cutler. It sailed on him a little even though Marshall got a piece of it. I wonder if the S would've had the INT if Marshall didn't tipped it? For me... Cutler's INTs this year has seems like it's a result on bad luck more than Cutler just being horrible and throwing at guys like in the years past.

 

Bold #2: I would've been a jerk as well and force Denver to trade me if I was Cutler. It was a shitty move by McDaniels.

[WrigleyField 22]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ykLzzZhsLls/Uq4UOvQRCxI/AAAAAAAA-SI/-s8lxd06zxA/s1600/0000000000000.gif

 

Sexy Rexy approved

 

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TqOQ05h0pCw/Rx5UljBZp7I/AAAAAAAAADc/pXED5Gf2IQk/s400/rexshirt.jpg

This is exactly the motif I'm thinking for our Jay meatball campaign. Who can make this and say something like "Jay leads 4th quarter comebacks"

[Guest]

 

Plus, CBS ran a story this morning that the Bears will have no exclusive window to negotiate with McCown. They can only offer him another league-minimum deal before the start of free agency.

 

he's definitely a strong backup and capable of great works. however, if some team wants him to start for them, good luck. I think he's spent a lot of time and made good money playing for the Bears, I think he'd stay.

[Guest]

I think Jay Cutler is a cool dude who would be a fun guy to have brews with and make cool fist bumps with

 

If you're cool enough for him to even care that you're in his presence.

[NOLA]

To be fair, again, I posed this as a question. I don't hate Jay and never went full meatball on him, although some of you clearly thought so. He just plays like crap sometimes and I wanted your opinions on why you defend the guy so vehemently. I don't care if he is a jerk. So what?

He is better than most, but while talented, he does make some Sexy Rexy-like choices at times.