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Well crap. The stats are pretty uninspiring. So, I guess this means he's much closer to a sub 10 mill talent, than a 30+ mill type. Excitement just dissolved.
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@JesseSanchezMLB TX, BOS, Cubs, LAD among 7 teams with serious interest in Cuban pitching prospect Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez
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Well crap. The stats are pretty uninspiring. So, I guess this means he's much closer to a sub 10 mill talent, than a 30+ mill type. Excitement just dissolved.

 

What were Chapman's numbers like, just out of curiosity?

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Well crap. The stats are pretty uninspiring. So, I guess this means he's much closer to a sub 10 mill talent, than a 30+ mill type. Excitement just dissolved.

 

What were Chapman's numbers like, just out of curiosity?

 

Sneakypower's link has Chapman's stats - use the drop-down menu and check out 2007-2009.

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Well crap. The stats are pretty uninspiring. So, I guess this means he's much closer to a sub 10 mill talent, than a 30+ mill type. Excitement just dissolved.

 

What were Chapman's numbers like, just out of curiosity?

 

Sneakypower's link has Chapman's stats - use the drop-down menu and check out 2007-2009.

 

His 2009 numbers: 118.1 IP, 4.7 BB/9, 9.9 K/9, 4.26 ERA

 

http://claydavenport.com/stats/webpages/2009ppageCBArealALL.shtml

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Jesse Sanchez tweeted Gonzalez has been declared a free agent and will have a showcase on 6/20 in Tijuana.
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Jesse Sanchez[/url]"]Gonzalez still has to be cleared by the U.S. government before he can enter into an agreement with a Major League club. The unblocking process could be resolved immediately, or last several months.

 

A full-fledged showcase is expected once he becomes eligible to sign with a Major League club.

 

The hard-throwing right-hander has a fastball in the mid-90s, a changeup, fork and a curveball. He made a splash on the international scene at the 2010 University Baseball Championships in Tokyo, and also shined at the Baseball World Cup in '09 and '11. He was suspended from Cuba's national team for most of the past two seasons for trying to leave the island.

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Jesse Sanchez[/url]"]Gonzalez still has to be cleared by the U.S. government before he can enter into an agreement with a Major League club. The unblocking process could be resolved immediately, or last several months.

 

A full-fledged showcase is expected once he becomes eligible to sign with a Major League club.

 

The hard-throwing right-hander has a fastball in the mid-90s, a changeup, fork and a curveball. He made a splash on the international scene at the 2010 University Baseball Championships in Tokyo, and also shined at the Baseball World Cup in '09 and '11. He was suspended from Cuba's national team for most of the past two seasons for trying to leave the island.

 

Just pointing out that this article predates the Tweet that Raisin posted about earlier.

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Cubs amongst teams interested in another Cuban defector:

 

Jesse Sanchez[/url]"]Right-handed pitcher Dalier Hinojosa, former star for the Cuban national team, defected from the island in February and began petitioning Major League Baseball to become a free agent last month, according to an industry source. Hinojosa still has to be cleared by the U.S. government before he can enter into an agreement with a Major League club.

 

The Cubs, Dodgers, Red Sox and Yankees are among the teams that have expressed interest in the pitcher, according to the source. Hinojosa, 27, throws a fastball in the low-to-mid 90s, and his repertoire also features a slider, a curve, a two-seam fastball and a changeup.

 

Also in that link:

 

Last week, right-handed pitcher Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez, Hinojosa's 2011 Baseball World Cup teammate, was declared a free agent. Gonzalez, who throws a fastball in the mid-90s, a changeup, a forkball and a curveball, is scheduled to throw three innings for Mexico's Toros de Tijuana in front of scouts as part of his showcase on Thursday in Tijuana.
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@JesseSanchezMLB: Source: Cuban RHP Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez has another showcase next Friday in Tijuana. He could pitch 5 innings. He touched 97 mph yesterday

 

@JesseSanchezMLB: Gonzalez is a free agent & hopes to be cleared by OFAC next week. He can't enter agreement until he's cleared by U.S. government. #Cuba
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Jeff Passan @JeffPassan

Bidding on Cuban Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez is gonna be wild. Teams think it may be more like a Japanese veteran -- who keeps the posting fee.

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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/10-degrees-trade-deadline-frenzy-041914872.html

 

Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez and his array of stuff that wowed scouts at a showcase this week in Mexico. The 26-year-old Cuban defector's fastball sat at 94-95 mph, topping out at 97, according to one official in attendance. The right-hander also threw a 91-mph cutter and mixed in a curveball, changeup and splitter for good measure, striking out six in three innings against Ensenada in a Mexican League game.

Once Gonzalez gets unblocked by the Office of Foreign Assets Control – something expected to happen within the next two weeks but always at the whim of strict government regulations – the bidding for Gonzalez will ramp up fast and could thrust into Aroldis Chapman, Yoenis Cespedes and even Yasiel Puig territory.

Not only does Gonzalez represent a potential season-changing arm, he does so with a singular cost: money. No prospects. No worries about losing him to free agency. Because of his experience and success internationally – he outdueled Gerrit Cole in the gold medal game of the World University Championship in 2010 – Gonzalez could argue he is more like a seasoned Japanese star coming to MLB than an unproven Cuban. And seeing as Fidel Castro isn't taking any posting fee, it's conceivable Gonzalez could land the biggest contract ever for a Cuban.

Remember, with the limits on draft-pick spending and international amateurs, the market for veteran international free agents better resembles free agency. And considering the teams involved – the Dodgers, Red Sox, Giants and another half-dozen serious suitors – the price will be high. It won't just be the contenders, either. Even a team like the Cubs could sneak in a bid while trying to offload their best trade candidate …

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I want this to happen way too much... like I know it's gonna be an outrageous number but [expletive] it.

 

Adding a good or possibly very good 26 year old arm is something we really need to do.

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I want this to happen way too much... like I know it's gonna be an outrageous number but [expletive] it.

 

Adding a good or possibly very good 26 year old arm is something we really need to do.

I agree, but his stats don't show him as a dominant type guy. We've got Shark, Edwin, and Wood here longterm, with a definite need for a TOR type. Hopefully that piece is dealt for somehow. No clue what type of money Gonzalez will get, but no first Cuban player contract has been ridiculous either. If they feel he'll at least be a 4th starter type for a while, 6-8 mill a year isn't a horrible investment to lock in a spot.

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Who's going to outbid the Dodgers?

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