Rizzo

[mookie]

http://www.mywrigleyville.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Anthony-Rizzo-finally-gets-the-call-Getty-Images-300x225.jpg

[neely crenshaw]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/bryce-harper-vows-to-play-as-relentless-as-ever--and-what-s-not-to-like-about-that--045257558.html

 

God, I wonder what they can do to save this kid from himself.....any ideas?

[Tracer Bullet]

Why save Rizzo from himself?

[Banedon]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/bryce-harper-vows-to-play-as-relentless-as-ever--and-what-s-not-to-like-about-that--045257558.html

 

God, I wonder what they can do to save this kid from himself.....any ideas?

 

What does that link have to do with Rizzo?

[neely crenshaw]

When we were talking about Rizzo possibly being a "generational" first baseman. I simply said it's hard to say when there could be many guys currently not playing first base that become first basemen like Pujols did. I mentioned several possible names, one being Harper and was scoffed at for such a crazy thought. I think that if Moore does anything, you could see this move very soon especially with LaRoche nearing the end of his deal (2014).

[Banedon]

When we were talking about Rizzo possibly being a "generational" first baseman. I simply said it's hard to say when there could be many guys currently not playing first base that become first basemen like Pujols did. I mentioned several possible names, one being Harper and was scoffed at for such a crazy thought. I think that if Moore does anything, you could see this move very soon especially with LaRoche nearing the end of his deal (2014).

 

Oook. How does that article corroborate your theory?

[abuck1220]

NAILED IT

[Tracer Bullet]

When we were talking about Rizzo possibly being a "generational" first baseman. I simply said it's hard to say when there could be many guys currently not playing first base that become first basemen like Pujols did. I mentioned several possible names, one being Harper and was scoffed at for such a crazy thought. I think that if Moore does anything, you could see this move very soon especially with LaRoche nearing the end of his deal (2014).

 

 

So you wanted someone to respond to your post by suggesting that they move him to first so you could say "Told you Rizzo wasn't a generational player!" So tricky.

[Guest]

I have worked with a lot of people with mental issues and seem to be good at following twisted logic. I think the line crenshaw is trying to draw is that the Nats shut down Strasburg for his own good, and could move Harper away from the OF for his own good.

 

The only problem with that is the fence runs all the way around the field, and he's just as likely to injure himself chasing a foulball into the stands at 1B or run into the C.

[sneakypower]

Cubs Get A Steal With Anthony Rizzo Again

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/cubs-get-a-steal-with-anthony-rizzo-again/

 

In his prime, Rizzo should develop into a +4 to +5 win first baseman. In terms of overall value, he projects to be not that different from what Prince Fielder is right now, with his better defense making up for the lower walk rate.

 

[...]

 

Rizzo is the potential superstar of the trio, and had the Cubs not locked him up, he was probably headed for a monster paycheck in several years.

 

[...]

 

If he turns into the franchise first baseman that he looks like right now, the Cubs will be huge winners in the final three years of this deal, potentially saving $50+ million in just those last three years.

[neely crenshaw]

When we were talking about Rizzo possibly being a "generational" first baseman. I simply said it's hard to say when there could be many guys currently not playing first base that become first basemen like Pujols did. I mentioned several possible names, one being Harper and was scoffed at for such a crazy thought. I think that if Moore does anything, you could see this move very soon especially with LaRoche nearing the end of his deal (2014).

 

 

So you wanted someone to respond to your post by suggesting that they move him to first so you could say "Told you Rizzo wasn't a generational player!" So tricky.

 

No not at all. I actually asked Tim, who started the thread, how that( potential changes) might effect the thoughts on being generational because there are so few young first basemen. I also mentioned Davis and Goldschmidt, who are 26 and 27, and wondered if they would be part of that "generation".

I was really trying keep a decent conversation going, rather than have a thread dedicated to blowing kisses at Rizzo.

 

So how about this-

Does being the best at the position for time span(5-6 seasons) make you generational? or does it take something more special? More of a HOF type stat run (even if it isn't long enough to be elected-ala Josh Hamilton or Matt Kemp currently)

[sneakypower]

i'd actually love a thread dedicated to blowing kisses at Rizzo

[neely crenshaw]

I have worked with a lot of people with mental issues and seem to be good at following twisted logic. I think the line crenshaw is trying to draw is that the Nats shut down Strasburg for his own good, and could move Harper away from the OF for his own good.

 

The only problem with that is the fence runs all the way around the field, and he's just as likely to injure himself chasing a foulball into the stands at 1B or run into the C.

 

Far less likely to have anything happen at first, but it could even happen being a dh and running the bases hard.

This move has happened quite a bit in history, sometimes because of not being able to play defense at another spot, sometimes because of age and sometimes because of wear and tear on good offensive player.

I simply thought of some big time young offensive players, that would probably have big time contracts coming and thought perhaps their teams might maximize their offense, while easing the wear on them. I really didn't think it was such a crazy theory that Harper, Stanton or several good offensive catchers might be moved to first during this generation.

[Guest]

i'd actually love a thread dedicated to blowing kisses at Rizzo

 

Yes, me too.

[neely crenshaw]

i'd actually love a thread dedicated to blowing kisses at Rizzo

 

This appears to be it...

[Guest]

i'd actually love a thread dedicated to blowing kisses at Rizzo

 

This appears to be it...

 

So try to stay on topic.

[Guest]

i'd actually love a thread dedicated to blowing kisses at Rizzo

 

This appears to be it...

 

So try to stay on topic.

 

YESSSSSSS.

 

Is this whole crusade really just about the semantics of "generational?" Either way, I enjoy that he didn't even try to deny that he had a learning disability.

[dew1679666265]

The only problem with that is the fence runs all the way around the field, and he's just as likely to injure himself chasing a foulball into the stands at 1B or run into the C.

 

While I don't really want to jump into this whole conversation, I'd say it's far less likely a player would get hurt running into the wall from first than from the OF. In the OF you're able to get up to full speed and slam your entire body into padded concrete. At first, most of the time there's not enough room for you to get up to full speed (and you're tracking a popup rather than a hard hit, deep fly ball) before running into the wall and there are typically people who (might, at least) catch you as you flip over the wall.

 

I'm not saying there aren't ways he could get hurt at first, just that it's not as likely there as in the OF.

[Guest]

The only problem with that is the fence runs all the way around the field, and he's just as likely to injure himself chasing a foulball into the stands at 1B or run into the C.

 

While I don't really want to jump into this whole conversation, I'd say it's far less likely a player would get hurt running into the wall from first than from the OF. In the OF you're able to get up to full speed and slam your entire body into padded concrete. At first, most of the time there's not enough room for you to get up to full speed (and you're tracking a popup rather than a hard hit, deep fly ball) before running into the wall and there are typically people who (might, at least) catch you as you flip over the wall.

 

I'm not saying there aren't ways he could get hurt at first, just that it's not as likely there as in the OF.

Bill. Mueller.

 

[Guest]

Yes, I know that was 3b. same play going towards the wall, though

[KaiserCesar]

After some early fretting about the K rate, Rizzo's is now down below 20% through 172 PA's.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

After some early fretting about the K rate, Rizzo's is now down below 20% through 172 PA's.

 

It may be a coincidence, but I loved how it immediately turned around right after there was that story that one of the coaches noticed something in his swing on video and they fixed it. I want our organization to be making players better like that.

 

Outman is kind of an awesome name for a pitcher.

[dew1679666265]

The only problem with that is the fence runs all the way around the field, and he's just as likely to injure himself chasing a foulball into the stands at 1B or run into the C.

 

While I don't really want to jump into this whole conversation, I'd say it's far less likely a player would get hurt running into the wall from first than from the OF. In the OF you're able to get up to full speed and slam your entire body into padded concrete. At first, most of the time there's not enough room for you to get up to full speed (and you're tracking a popup rather than a hard hit, deep fly ball) before running into the wall and there are typically people who (might, at least) catch you as you flip over the wall.

 

I'm not saying there aren't ways he could get hurt at first, just that it's not as likely there as in the OF.

Bill. Mueller.

 

 

Very true, but hence why I made sure to mention that players could get hurt, just not as likely to.

[Guest]

The only problem with that is the fence runs all the way around the field, and he's just as likely to injure himself chasing a foulball into the stands at 1B or run into the C.

 

While I don't really want to jump into this whole conversation, I'd say it's far less likely a player would get hurt running into the wall from first than from the OF. In the OF you're able to get up to full speed and slam your entire body into padded concrete. At first, most of the time there's not enough room for you to get up to full speed (and you're tracking a popup rather than a hard hit, deep fly ball) before running into the wall and there are typically people who (might, at least) catch you as you flip over the wall.

 

I'm not saying there aren't ways he could get hurt at first, just that it's not as likely there as in the OF.

Bill. Mueller.

 

 

Very true, but hence why I made sure to mention that players could get hurt, just not as likely to.

 

Harper's whole point is that he wants to play the game right and play hard. No matter where you put him on the field he is going to chase the ball aggressively, that's who he is and who he wants to be. He's gonna be that guy that charges in and overrides everybody calling him off. IMO he'd be going over the tarp and in to the stands or down the dugout stairs.

 

Throughout Ken Griffey Jr's career he only played 1B for 2 innings according to baseball reference. With his bat and injury problems he should be the perfect poster boy for the position switch, but it never happened.

 

While we're on the topic how could you forget Kerry Wood/Hee Seop Choi or Lee/Furcal?

 

Another random point...Wood and Choi were both 6'5", Bryce Harper and say Jordan Zimmerman are both 6'2". If there were a collision between those two what do you think the reaction in DC would be?

[Guest]

zero strikeouts in his last 7 games is pretty crazy