Random Cubs Musings

[Guest]

i was at that game too. was a beautiful freaking night in october.

[Guest]

I was in the neighborhood for that but watched from a bar.

 

Cubs dugout side, like 10 rows back behind it.

 

*SIIIIIIIIGH*

Brighter times await us

 

Yeah, but, fingers crossed, I'll be moving back east before next season. Oh well.

 

well that's depressing

[Sammy Sofa]

It could not have possibly been quieter than it was when one pitch Rich gave up the HR to Chris Young on the first effing pitch of the game. That place was a graveyard after that the rest of the night.

 

[expletive], that's how that started? I had a family wedding that day, so I didn't see any of it until the reception and it was already like the 3rd. Kinda had the meatball doom boner going with the the way the series had already gone, so I took a LOT of advantage of that free bar.

Edited July 16, 2014 by Sammy Sofa

[ConstableRabbit]

I got to be there when Mark DeRosa grounded into 8 double plays in NLCS Game 3. So that was pretty sweet.

I've been to several home playoff games, including NLCS game 6 in '03 and the '98 Wild Card clincher.

 

The moment when DeRosa stepped up to the plate is the loudest I've ever heard Wrigley while in attendance. I couldn't hear my own yelling.

 

And when he GIDP, the silence was deafening.

 

It could not have possibly been quieter than it was when one pitch Rich gave up the HR to Chris Young on the first effing pitch of the game. That place was a graveyard after that the rest of the night.

Yeah that sucked too.

[Guest]

that [expletive] team had a negative run differential ffs

 

i was watching at yakzies when soto hit that HR in game 2 i think

 

 

that was the adolfo soriano, rodrigo ramirez series, right?

[Sammy Sofa]

I was in the neighborhood for that but watched from a bar.

 

Cubs dugout side, like 10 rows back behind it.

 

*SIIIIIIIIGH*

Brighter times await us

 

Yeah, but, fingers crossed, I'll be moving back east before next season. Oh well.

 

well that's depressing

 

Eh, we'll still have the tickets and places to stay, so I'll be back plenty once they're good...just kinda bummed that they were so terrible for what turned out to be my last few years here for a while. I hope they string some fun wins together this season so I can get some in.

[mul21]

It could not have possibly been quieter than it was when one pitch Rich gave up the HR to Chris Young on the first effing pitch of the game. That place was a graveyard after that the rest of the night.

 

Goddman, that's how that started? I had a family wedding that day, so I didn't see any of it until the reception and it was already like the 3rd. Kinda had the meatball doom boner going with the the way the series had already gone, so I took a LOT of advantage of that free bar.

 

Yeah, I had paid an exorbitant amount for tickets and drove up from St. Louis the day of the game. Complete and total suck.

[SouthSideRyan]

that [expletive] team had a negative run differential ffs

 

i was watching at yakzies when soto hit that HR in game 2 i think

 

 

that was the adolfo soriano, rodrigo ramirez series, right?

 

I think I was at Trader [expletive] Todd's for that.

[SouthSideRyan]

I got to be there when Mark DeRosa grounded into 8 double plays in NLCS Game 3. So that was pretty sweet.

I've been to several home playoff games, including NLCS game 6 in '03 and the '98 Wild Card clincher.

 

The moment when DeRosa stepped up to the plate is the loudest I've ever heard Wrigley while in attendance. I couldn't hear my own yelling.

 

And when he GIDP, the silence was deafening.

 

It could not have possibly been quieter than it was when one pitch Rich gave up the HR to Chris Young on the first effing pitch of the game. That place was a graveyard after that the rest of the night.

 

At least you weren't wearing a Rich Hill shersey

[Careless]

Looking it up, I see that Rich Hill actually appeared in two games this year. Faced four batters. Three walks and a hit.

 

Somehow he's never had a negative fWAR

[Guest]

that [expletive] team had a negative run differential ffs

 

i was watching at yakzies when soto hit that HR in game 2 i think

 

 

that was the adolfo soriano, rodrigo ramirez series, right?

 

I think I was at Trader [expletive] Todd's for that.

 

lmao i was just there last weekend

[Guest]

Dave Cameron's Trade Value series is running this week, Kris Bryant checks in at #29: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2014-trade-value-30-21/

 

Speaking of prospects that belong in the big leagues, meet Kris Bryant. While we don’t have official rest of season forecasts for Bryant on the site, since he’s not an active member of the Cubs depth chart, Dan Szymborski and Jared Cross were kind enough to run his updated forecast for me, and both systems think Bryant would be a quality big leaguer tomorrow. That probably shouldn’t be a surprise, given that Bryant is a polished college hitter whose 179 wRC+ in Triple-A is the lowest mark he’s posted at any stop on the minor league ladder. You can quibble with the strikeouts and wonder what his eventual position will be, but right-handed power like this doesn’t come around very often, and Bryant’s bat is probably ready for the big leagues right now.

 

For service time reasons, it makes sense for the Cubs to hold Bryant down until next May, at which point they would also control his 2021 season, so don’t expect Bryant in Chicago before then. But if he was on a team looking to maximize their win total in 2014, he’d probably already be in the big leagues, and the forecasts think he’d do just fine. Like Polanco, every team in baseball would bid on Bryant’s services, and the scarcity of power would likely drive the price up beyond reason.

 

Even if he tops out as Troy Glaus — a comparison I’ve heard more than once — Bryant has a lot of value, and there’s certainly room for a career beyond what Glaus did. Bryant might not be a big leaguer yet, but teams would pay a big league price to get him.

 

The list has gone through 21 and there's no mention of Castro or Rizzo yet, which probably means both are in the Top 20.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The list has gone through 21 and there's no mention of Castro or Rizzo yet, which probably means both are in the Top 20.

 

*makes a mental note to enjoy TT's reaction to what's coming*

[Guest]

The list has gone through 21 and there's no mention of Castro or Rizzo yet, which probably means both are in the Top 20.

 

*makes a mental note to enjoy TT's reaction to what's coming*

 

lol yep

[Guest]

I normally wouldn't be all that surprised, but we're talking about Mr. $/WAR here.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Has Dave Cameron ever said or written *anything* that would cause us to care about his baseball analysis, other than happening to run a pretty cool stats site?

 

It's just my pet peeve on him. He's just not very good.

[Guest]

Has Dave Cameron ever said or written *anything* that would cause us to care about his baseball analysis, other than happening to run a pretty cool stats site?

 

It's just my pet peeve on him. He's just not very good.

 

He's consistent with his logic(to the point of being dogmatic) and the logic is sound if not bullet-proof. I like reading his stuff because I can put those opinions in context easily(e.g. if Cameron thinks a big FA deal was a good deal, it's the best deal ever) but it doesn't mean I don't think he's off-base some of the time.

[Guest]

And he answered the question in chat, Rizzo is yet to come, Castro is not.

[SouthSideRyan]

And he answered the question in chat, Rizzo is yet to come, Castro is not.

 

Bogaerts 23

[Sammy Sofa]

Dave Cameron's Trade Value series is running this week, Kris Bryant checks in at #29: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2014-trade-value-30-21/

 

Speaking of prospects that belong in the big leagues, meet Kris Bryant. While we don’t have official rest of season forecasts for Bryant on the site, since he’s not an active member of the Cubs depth chart, Dan Szymborski and Jared Cross were kind enough to run his updated forecast for me, and both systems think Bryant would be a quality big leaguer tomorrow. That probably shouldn’t be a surprise, given that Bryant is a polished college hitter whose 179 wRC+ in Triple-A is the lowest mark he’s posted at any stop on the minor league ladder. You can quibble with the strikeouts and wonder what his eventual position will be, but right-handed power like this doesn’t come around very often, and Bryant’s bat is probably ready for the big leagues right now.

 

For service time reasons, it makes sense for the Cubs to hold Bryant down until next May, at which point they would also control his 2021 season, so don’t expect Bryant in Chicago before then. But if he was on a team looking to maximize their win total in 2014, he’d probably already be in the big leagues, and the forecasts think he’d do just fine.

 

This makes me want to weep rage.

[Guest]

And he answered the question in chat, Rizzo is yet to come, Castro is not.

 

Bogaerts 23

 

Todd: Why no Castro? Young, cheap contract, good performance thus far.

 

Dave Cameron: We have different definitions of good performance, I guess. He's an average player.

 

Thanks everyone for not quoting my previous posts on Cameron, those will be disappearing shortly.

[Proven Veteran]

And he answered the question in chat, Rizzo is yet to come, Castro is not.

 

Bogaerts 23

 

Todd: Why no Castro? Young, cheap contract, good performance thus far.

 

Dave Cameron: We have different definitions of good performance, I guess. He's an average player.

 

Thanks everyone for not quoting my previous posts on Cameron, those will be disappearing shortly.

Lol

[Sammy Sofa]

That is stupid, though Castro has sucked for a month now and I'm only now seeing it and feeling the pain it brings.

[Guest]

And he answered the question in chat, Rizzo is yet to come, Castro is not.

 

Bogaerts 23

 

Todd: Why no Castro? Young, cheap contract, good performance thus far.

 

Dave Cameron: We have different definitions of good performance, I guess. He's an average player.

 

Thanks everyone for not quoting my previous posts on Cameron, those will be disappearing shortly.

 

He has him as an average player even though he has basically already, in 91 games, reached FG's benchmark for average performance over a full season?

 

WAT

[Guest]

That is stupid, though Castro has sucked for a month now and I'm only now seeing it and feeling the pain it brings.

 

Huh?

 

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