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http://www.nfl.com/draft365/rankings

 

The top 50 college players for the NFL, regardless of class (7 of those players aren't eligible for the 2014 draft).

 

So I watched South Carolina twice last season so I may not be the best guy to judge. I saw them play early in the year and almost lose to Vanderbilt I think and I watched them play Michigan in whatever bowl. Except for the "play" where the Michigan rb gets de-helmeted, I barely noticed him in those games. Lewan really had Clowney under control most of the game. Clowney was left un-blocked on the "play". Couple that with a player with too-much hair for his helmet and it looks great, but was not really that great of an individual play. Is he really this clear cut number one without any doubt talent or is it somewhat over-hyped?

I haven't seen a ton of Clowney but he's definitely the real deal. Julius Peppers with maybe even more speed and athletic ability, if that's possible.

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Clowney runs a legit 4.4 40. The dude has all the talent in the world. All about work ethic for him. He seems to take plays off.
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http://www.nfl.com/draft365/rankings

 

The top 50 college players for the NFL, regardless of class (7 of those players aren't eligible for the 2014 draft).

 

So I watched South Carolina twice last season so I may not be the best guy to judge. I saw them play early in the year and almost lose to Vanderbilt I think and I watched them play Michigan in whatever bowl. Except for the "play" where the Michigan rb gets de-helmeted, I barely noticed him in those games. Lewan really had Clowney under control most of the game. Clowney was left un-blocked on the "play". Couple that with a player with too-much hair for his helmet and it looks great, but was not really that great of an individual play. Is he really this clear cut number one without any doubt talent or is it somewhat over-hyped?

 

Ask Tajh Boyd and Aaron Murray if Clowney is overrated. I watched every single South Carolina game last year specifically because of Clowney. He's the best defensive player I've seen in college football in the past decade; Suh and Peppers are the closest I can think of.

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Clowney runs a legit 4.4 40. The dude has all the talent in the world. All about work ethic for him. He seems to take plays off.

 

I think that's right. He certainly seems to go quiet for plays at a time.

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http://www.nfl.com/draft365/rankings

 

The top 50 college players for the NFL, regardless of class (7 of those players aren't eligible for the 2014 draft).

 

So I watched South Carolina twice last season so I may not be the best guy to judge. I saw them play early in the year and almost lose to Vanderbilt I think and I watched them play Michigan in whatever bowl. Except for the "play" where the Michigan rb gets de-helmeted, I barely noticed him in those games. Lewan really had Clowney under control most of the game. Clowney was left un-blocked on the "play". Couple that with a player with too-much hair for his helmet and it looks great, but was not really that great of an individual play. Is he really this clear cut number one without any doubt talent or is it somewhat over-hyped?

 

Ask Tajh Boyd and Aaron Murray if Clowney is overrated. I watched every single South Carolina game last year specifically because of Clowney. He's the best defensive player I've seen in college football in the past decade; Suh and Peppers are the closest I can think of.

 

100% dead on. I didn't see every SC game last year, but I think I saw them all in 2011 and saw quite a few in 2012. He doesn't take plays off as much as teams completely scheme against him. Teams run away from him. They double and triple team him on pass plays. It's pretty much impossible to completely show up on every play on the DL. Kinda gotta pick your spots. And Clowney consistently makes big plays on 3rd downs, momentum changing plays in the run game, etc.

 

Suh and Peppers are in the conversation for best defensive player of the 2000s, but I think Clowney is on another level. His potential is Lawrence Taylor/Reggie White esque. Not saying that it will happen, and I'd almost guarantee it doesn't happen....but Clowney has the talent and upside to be in the conversation for best defensive player in NFL history when his playing career is done. He's legitimately that good.

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http://www.nfl.com/draft365/rankings

 

The top 50 college players for the NFL, regardless of class (7 of those players aren't eligible for the 2014 draft).

 

So I watched South Carolina twice last season so I may not be the best guy to judge. I saw them play early in the year and almost lose to Vanderbilt I think and I watched them play Michigan in whatever bowl. Except for the "play" where the Michigan rb gets de-helmeted, I barely noticed him in those games. Lewan really had Clowney under control most of the game. Clowney was left un-blocked on the "play". Couple that with a player with too-much hair for his helmet and it looks great, but was not really that great of an individual play. Is he really this clear cut number one without any doubt talent or is it somewhat over-hyped?

 

Ask Tajh Boyd and Aaron Murray if Clowney is overrated. I watched every single South Carolina game last year specifically because of Clowney. He's the best defensive player I've seen in college football in the past decade; Suh and Peppers are the closest I can think of.

 

You must have missed all the awards Te'o won.

 

More awards named after players you couldn't pick out of a lineup = better

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Clowney runs a legit 4.4 40. The dude has all the talent in the world. All about work ethic for him. He seems to take plays off.

 

I think that's right. He certainly seems to go quiet for plays at a time.

 

Undoubtedly he does take a few plays off, but he creates an incredible amount of havoc for being double and triple teamed nearly every play.

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http://www.nfl.com/draft365/rankings

 

The top 50 college players for the NFL, regardless of class (7 of those players aren't eligible for the 2014 draft).

 

I AM SUCH A PATHETIC SUCKER FOR THIS TYPE OF STUFF.

 

 

There's one--ONE--guy on that list from the Big 12. Seastrunk.

 

Yikes.

Ha ha, LOL12. Seastrunk sneaks in at #47.

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Supposedly Carlos Hyde hit the daughter of a Columbus cop at a bar. Ohio State has scheduled a press conference.
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http://www.nfl.com/draft365/rankings

 

The top 50 college players for the NFL, regardless of class (7 of those players aren't eligible for the 2014 draft).

 

I AM SUCH A PATHETIC SUCKER FOR THIS TYPE OF STUFF.

 

 

There's one--ONE--guy on that list from the Big 12. Seastrunk.

 

Yikes.

 

I feel like Devonte Fields (TCU) belongs on that list.

 

Also, Lache seems far too low at 47.

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And Carlos Hyde has been dismissed from Ohio State.
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And Bradley Roby was arrested for battery over the weekend.

 

Just a normal weekend at Ohio State.

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Hey UM fans, will Fitz Touissant play at the beginning of the year? If he doesn't, who will get the majority of the reps - Derrick Green?
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Hey UM fans, will Fitz Touissant play at the beginning of the year? If he doesn't, who will get the majority of the reps - Derrick Green?

 

Fitz is supposed to be healthy by the first game. If not, Green will definitely get a hard look. The other RB's aren't all that great. None stood out in the Spring.

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Hey UM fans, will Fitz Touissant play at the beginning of the year? If he doesn't, who will get the majority of the reps - Derrick Green?

 

Fitz is supposed to be healthy by the first game. If not, Green will definitely get a hard look. The other RB's aren't all that great. None stood out in the Spring.

 

Thanks.

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And Bradley Roby was arrested for battery over the weekend.

 

Just a normal weekend at Ohio State.

 

The difference being that instead of Jim Tressell apologizing for them, Urban is putting them out on their ass.

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And Bradley Roby was arrested for battery over the weekend.

 

Just a normal weekend at Ohio State.

 

The difference being that instead of Jim Tressell apologizing for them, Urban is putting them out on their ass.

LOL at Urban Meyer being some kind of disciplinarian. He just reinstated a guy who slammed his girlfriend's head against a door.

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Compared to Tressell he's the long arm of the law.

 

That said, I don't believe for a second that Urban is above anything unseemly

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Compared to Tressell he's the long arm of the law.

 

That said, I don't believe for a second that Urban is above anything unseemly

 

Long arm of the law? Didn't follow much of his career at Florida, did you?

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And Bradley Roby was arrested for battery over the weekend.

 

Just a normal weekend at Ohio State.

 

The difference being that instead of Jim Tressell apologizing for them, Urban is putting them out on their ass.

 

Why are you ignoring Urban Meyer's body of work at Florida?

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At least two big-conference commissioners (ACC's Swofford and Big 12's Bowlsby) are not so subtly floating the idea that the 'haves' in Division I are going to split up from the 'have-nots', and soon.
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And Carlos Hyde has been dismissed from Ohio State.

 

Is this true? ESPN says he's been suspended indefinitely, which tends to be the way a coach seems tough at the time it's fresh in the minds of people but allows him to cut it to a game or a half a game when the season starts.

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Compared to Tressell he's the long arm of the law.

 

That said, I don't believe for a second that Urban is above anything unseemly

 

Long arm of the law? Didn't follow much of his career at Florida, did you?

 

Re-read the first part of my first sentence

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