5/12 Cubs (Volstad) @ Brewers (Marcum), 12:05 CDT, FOX

[dew1679666265]

I don't like Sutton in any duo. I think he is probably the worst PBP guy that I have heard. Although Brennaman is pretty awful to listen to as well.

 

Really? I can think of a bunch of PBP guys just off the top of my head who I like less - Buck, Brennaman, Stockton, Ensberg, pretty much every announcer employed by Fox. Sutton's really not bad, though I've not heard him much.

[dew1679666265]

Buck doesn't do a game unless the Cardinals or Yankees are in it.

 

Doesn't surprise me.

 

Brenneman still does games.

 

Too bad.

[Schwarber Fan]

The problem with Sutton is he overemphasizes every damn thing that happens in the game. I think Stockton is done with FOX.

 

I think Brenneman calls a decent game but he's a douche no doubt. Vasgersian is also awful (doing Rangers/Angels today)

[El Duderino]

what? Vasgerisan is awesome.

[PosterToBeNamedLater]

I kind of like the Sutton/Brenly duo.

I don't like Sutton in any duo. I think he is probably the worst PBP guy that I have heard. Although Brennaman is pretty awful to listen to as well.

 

no one is worse than brennaman. in addition to being horrible at pbp, he's a colossal [expletive].

I guess I agree with that (although right after I posted I immediately remembered Hawk). I think it is because I live in Arizona so I get Diamondbacks games and have to hear him a lot, but I just can't stand his announcing. He gets way too excited, but not in any kind of likeable way. He also holds grudges and seems to hate the cubs. (I think everything I just wrote also applies/applied to Brennaman)

 

I actually wonder what he thought this year when the Brewers signed Ramirez. He hates Ramirez. I remember a Cubs/Diamondbacks game from a couple of years ago where he just would not stop ranting with a dislike of ramirez. Grace even joked about it because it was getting out of hand. Apparently, years earlier he had hit a home run off of Ben Sheets and didn't run hard enough out of the box. In one at-bat, Ramirez struck out and Sutton yelled "SIT DOWWWWWWN!" It was awkward and unprofessional.

[dew1679666265]

The problem with Sutton is he overemphasizes every damn thing that happens in the game. I think Stockton is done with FOX.

 

I think Brenneman calls a decent game but he's a douche no doubt. Vasgersian is also awful (doing Rangers/Angels today)

 

Gus Johnson is the same way as Sutton, but he's still one of the best broadcasters in the game. Overemphasis is one of the least significant weaknesses an announcer can have, I think. There's really nothing about Brenneman calling a game that I like, it's incredibly grating listening to him.

 

I don't really mind Vasgersian.

[PosterToBeNamedLater]

I don't like Sutton in any duo. I think he is probably the worst PBP guy that I have heard. Although Brennaman is pretty awful to listen to as well.

 

Really? I can think of a bunch of PBP guys just off the top of my head who I like less - Buck, Brennaman, Stockton, Ensberg, pretty much every announcer employed by Fox. Sutton's really not bad, though I've not heard him much.

 

Stockton is pretty terrible... I will grant you that. He is terrible in a "really bad at the job" kind of a way. He constantly says incorrect things. I guess I just hate that Sutton seems so smug and annoying.

[Schwarber Fan]

Go back and find Vasgersian calling the Yankees walkoff win vs. Detroit a few weeks ago. Just unbearable. Best thing he's done is host that baseball IQ show.

[Schwarber Fan]

I don't like Sutton in any duo. I think he is probably the worst PBP guy that I have heard. Although Brennaman is pretty awful to listen to as well.

 

Really? I can think of a bunch of PBP guys just off the top of my head who I like less - Buck, Brennaman, Stockton, Ensberg, pretty much every announcer employed by Fox. Sutton's really not bad, though I've not heard him much.

 

Stockton is pretty terrible... I will grant you that. He is terrible in a "really bad at the job" kind of a way. He constantly says incorrect things. I guess I just hate that Sutton seems so smug and annoying.

 

smug... perfect. So is Thom

[PosterToBeNamedLater]

The problem with Sutton is he overemphasizes every damn thing that happens in the game. I think Stockton is done with FOX.

 

I think Brenneman calls a decent game but he's a douche no doubt. Vasgersian is also awful (doing Rangers/Angels today)

 

Gus Johnson is the same way as Sutton, but he's still one of the best broadcasters in the game. Overemphasis is one of the least significant weaknesses an announcer can have, I think. There's really nothing about Brenneman calling a game that I like, it's incredibly grating listening to him.

 

I don't really mind Vasgersian.

 

Gus legitimately seems excited for big plays. Sutton sounds like the other team wronged him somehow and he just got back at them.

[dew1679666265]

Stockton is pretty terrible... I will grant you that. He is terrible in a "really bad at the job" kind of a way. He constantly says incorrect things. I guess I just hate that Sutton seems so smug and annoying.

 

Guess I just don't hear him enough to tell. I usually only listen to him a couple of times a year (the random time(s) he does a Cubs game on Fox and the very few times I've flipped over to a DBacks game when I had EI).

 

For as much crap as they get, ESPN actually has some pretty good mid-tier baseball announcers. Thorne, O'Brien (think he does baseball games), and a few others are pretty good, I think.

[El Duderino]

Yeah, Dave O'Brien is really good. Great at college basketball too.

[Schwarber Fan]

who knows if we'll ever beat Milwaukee again

[Schwarber Fan]

and yes ESPN destroys FOX and TBS... it's a shame they lost playoff rights

[PosterToBeNamedLater]

Yeah, Dave O'Brien is really good. Great at college basketball too.

Agreed. Wasn't he rumored to have been offered the Cubs job--and although he was interested, ESPN wouldn't let him out or something? I remember really hoping for him at the time.

 

EDIT--maybe I am thinking of Shulman.

[Schwarber Fan]

Yeah, Dave O'Brien is really good. Great at college basketball too.

Agreed. Wasn't he rumored to have been offered the Cubs job--and although he was interested, ESPN wouldn't let him out or something? I remember really hoping for him at the time.

 

EDIT--maybe I am thinking of Shulman.

 

It was O'Brien, and he ended up doing Red Sox radio anyway

[dew1679666265]

Yeah, Dave O'Brien is really good. Great at college basketball too.

Agreed. Wasn't he rumored to have been offered the Cubs job--and although he was interested, ESPN wouldn't let him out or something? I remember really hoping for him at the time.

 

EDIT--maybe I am thinking of Shulman.

 

Shulman's good. I don't remember him being up for the Cubs job (or O'Brien for that matter, must just be my bad memory), but that would've been a good hire. I'm really happy with Len, though.

[Schwarber Fan]

Other baseball commentatory

 

O'Brien provided commentary for MLB's international coverage of the World Series from 2004 until 2009. O'Brien was television voice of the New York Mets on WPIX-TV from 2003 through 2005. He won the Achievements in Radio (A.I.R.) award for Best Play-by-Play for his call of Mark McGwire's 59th home run in 1998.[1]

Prior to the 2005 season, O'Brien was denied permission by ESPN to join the Chicago Cubs' broadcast team.[2][3]

 

In 2007, O'Brien joined the Boston Red Sox Radio Network, calling games alongside primary play-by-play announcer Joe Castiglione.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_O%27Brien_%28sportscaster%29

[dew1679666265]

Other baseball commentatory

 

O'Brien provided commentary for MLB's international coverage of the World Series from 2004 until 2009. O'Brien was television voice of the New York Mets on WPIX-TV from 2003 through 2005. He won the Achievements in Radio (A.I.R.) award for Best Play-by-Play for his call of Mark McGwire's 59th home run in 1998.[1]

Prior to the 2005 season, O'Brien was denied permission by ESPN to join the Chicago Cubs' broadcast team.[2][3]

 

In 2007, O'Brien joined the Boston Red Sox Radio Network, calling games alongside primary play-by-play announcer Joe Castiglione.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_O%27Brien_%28sportscaster%29

 

Interesting.

[jersey cubs fan]

He could pitch perfect games every game for the entire season while the person we got for him comes into our clubhouse and injects HGH into every player on the team and I'd still be ok with it. Z just had to go and any random career renaissance would have been way too unlikely for the Cubs to predict before trading him.

 

I still disagree with this idea that Z had to go. I've been pleasantly surprised with how well Volstad has pitched outside of the big inning each start, but still think dealing Z at that point was selling needlessly low. Still wasn't some terrible deal or anything by any stretch, but it wasn't something that had to be done.

In today's MLB it does not matter how good your players are, what matters is how many arbitration years you control of your worst players.

 

Also, when you lose you want everybody to go home happy, not emotional. Emotional losses are worth 1.73 regular losses.