Random Baseball Musings

[ctcf]

RE: The earlier Cardinals score card image:

 

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BREAKING: Houston Astros were awarded Central Division title in '01 after a tie & winning season series.

 

hahahahahahaha

[SouthSideRyan]

I think the Cardinals still hung a flag or something, and MLB in its cowardice relented and called them co-champions.

[ctcf]

I think the Cardinals still hung a flag or something, and MLB in its cowardice relented and called them co-champions.

 

I believe they did. However, if you're getting wild card seeding in the playoffs, you're not division champs in my book.

[UMFan83]

I think the Cardinals still hung a flag or something, and MLB in its cowardice relented and called them co-champions.

 

I believe they did. However, if you're getting wild card seeding in the playoffs, you're not division champs in my book.

 

Well at least we won't have to worry about those scenarios anymore with the newest wild card game system.

[Backtobanks]

I mean, does anyone REALLY believe there's a serious number of Sox fans who would rather see the Cubs lose than their own team do well?

 

A lot of you probably live in the city,north side, different state or wherever so most of you can't see for yourself how they are or think " No, way it ain't that bad" and think it's all overblown. Unless you live on the south side, then you really can't grasp it. I live in the southwest suburbs and let me tell you, the hatred & caring more about the Cubs is true. I can't count the many times out at bars around the area where a Cubs game is on and Sox fans paying very close attention to it & when the opposing team scores they erupt in cheers and clap loudly. Couple times wearing my Cubs jersey or shirt minding my own business and hear snarky comments like " This is the Southide!" or some other idiotic comment, or questioned why I'm wearing that out here.This is also isn't just friendly heckling. Been told from a couple Sox fans they are born and raised growing up to "HATE the Cubs". Lots of Sox fans wearing Anti-Cubs shirts and even Sox fan license plates that read "IH8Cubs" or something of the sort. So yes, the rage & hatred they have for the Cubs and their fans is true..It's not an overblown perception whatsoever. They have their inferiority complex and basically live to bash anything Cubs related and you hear it more than talk about their own team.

 

I was born and raised on the South Side and lived in the south and southwest suburbs all of my adult life. The hatred for the Cubs is true, but I don't think it's any worse than the hatred for the Sox on the north side and in the north suburbs. You are right about the inferiority complex, but I think that has to do with the media coverage in the city. Chicago sports attention historically has focused on the Bears first followed by the Cubs, with the other teams (Black Hawks, Bulls, White Sox) following in order according to which team is the hottest. Also, Chicago is passionate about their professional teams, but shows very little interest in college sports.

[Banedon]

Hey guys, ESPN likes the Red Sox. Just thought I'd let you know.

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/powerrankings

[ctcf]

Hey guys, ESPN likes the Red Sox. Just thought I'd let you know.

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/powerrankings

 

Was laughing at that list earlier. Loving the Phillies and D-Backs being ahead of the Cubs despite having worse records as well.

[ctcf]

I have Mookie Betts on one fantasy team and Jordan Zimmermann on another. Today has been conflicting.

[Sammy Sofa]

I mean, does anyone REALLY believe there's a serious number of Sox fans who would rather see the Cubs lose than their own team do well?

 

A lot of you probably live in the city,north side, different state or wherever so most of you can't see for yourself how they are or think " No, way it ain't that bad" and think it's all overblown. Unless you live on the south side, then you really can't grasp it. I live in the southwest suburbs and let me tell you, the hatred & caring more about the Cubs is true. I can't count the many times out at bars around the area where a Cubs game is on and Sox fans paying very close attention to it & when the opposing team scores they erupt in cheers and clap loudly. Couple times wearing my Cubs jersey or shirt minding my own business and hear snarky comments like " This is the Southide!" or some other idiotic comment, or questioned why I'm wearing that out here.This is also isn't just friendly heckling. Been told from a couple Sox fans they are born and raised growing up to "HATE the Cubs". Lots of Sox fans wearing Anti-Cubs shirts and even Sox fan license plates that read "IH8Cubs" or something of the sort. So yes, the rage & hatred they have for the Cubs and their fans is true..It's not an overblown perception whatsoever. They have their inferiority complex and basically live to bash anything Cubs related and you hear it more than talk about their own team.

 

And bring up the Sox to the average Cubs and you'll hear plenty of the dumbest vitriol you'll ever hear. It's simply not this weird thing for fanbases sharing the same city to not like each other and the opposing team. Why is it supposed to be this embarrassing thing that they don't like the other guys? This is the kind of crap you get with any fan rivalry; you just have more interaction between these fanbases because they share a city.

[Sammy Sofa]

Hell, my years in Chicago taught me that the average Cubs fan was going to have opinions about the Cubs as dumb and as hateful as any Sox fan.

 

THEY LEARNED IT FROM US.

[seanimal]

I mean, does anyone REALLY believe there's a serious number of Sox fans who would rather see the Cubs lose than their own team do well?

 

A lot of you probably live in the city,north side, different state or wherever so most of you can't see for yourself how they are or think " No, way it ain't that bad" and think it's all overblown. Unless you live on the south side, then you really can't grasp it. I live in the southwest suburbs and let me tell you, the hatred & caring more about the Cubs is true. I can't count the many times out at bars around the area where a Cubs game is on and Sox fans paying very close attention to it & when the opposing team scores they erupt in cheers and clap loudly. Couple times wearing my Cubs jersey or shirt minding my own business and hear snarky comments like " This is the Southide!" or some other idiotic comment, or questioned why I'm wearing that out here.This is also isn't just friendly heckling. Been told from a couple Sox fans they are born and raised growing up to "HATE the Cubs". Lots of Sox fans wearing Anti-Cubs shirts and even Sox fan license plates that read "IH8Cubs" or something of the sort. So yes, the rage & hatred they have for the Cubs and their fans is true..It's not an overblown perception whatsoever. They have their inferiority complex and basically live to bash anything Cubs related and you hear it more than talk about their own team.

 

SO MUCH THIS

[Sammys Boombox]

I vote the Cubs rip off this design for their NLDS scorecards this year but they do something with the standings instead.

 

But, seriously, most baseball fans suck. The Cardinals fans are annoying because their team wins and this somehow means that they are better fans than everyone else. That's pretty much it.

[seanimal]

I vote the Cubs rip off this design for their NLDS scorecards this year but they do something with the standings instead.

 

But, seriously, most baseball fans suck. The Cardinals fans are annoying because their team wins and this somehow means that they are better fans than everyone else. That's pretty much it.

 

it should be clark taking a dump in chicago and the path it takes to get to st. louis' potable water supply

[Guest]

I mean, does anyone REALLY believe there's a serious number of Sox fans who would rather see the Cubs lose than their own team do well?

 

A lot of you probably live in the city,north side, different state or wherever so most of you can't see for yourself how they are or think " No, way it ain't that bad" and think it's all overblown. Unless you live on the south side, then you really can't grasp it. I live in the southwest suburbs and let me tell you, the hatred & caring more about the Cubs is true. I can't count the many times out at bars around the area where a Cubs game is on and Sox fans paying very close attention to it & when the opposing team scores they erupt in cheers and clap loudly. Couple times wearing my Cubs jersey or shirt minding my own business and hear snarky comments like " This is the Southide!" or some other idiotic comment, or questioned why I'm wearing that out here.This is also isn't just friendly heckling. Been told from a couple Sox fans they are born and raised growing up to "HATE the Cubs". Lots of Sox fans wearing Anti-Cubs shirts and even Sox fan license plates that read "IH8Cubs" or something of the sort. So yes, the rage & hatred they have for the Cubs and their fans is true..It's not an overblown perception whatsoever. They have their inferiority complex and basically live to bash anything Cubs related and you hear it more than talk about their own team.

 

I was born and raised on the South Side and lived in the south and southwest suburbs all of my adult life. The hatred for the Cubs is true, but I don't think it's any worse than the hatred for the Sox on the north side and in the north suburbs. You are right about the inferiority complex, but I think that has to do with the media coverage in the city. Chicago sports attention historically has focused on the Bears first followed by the Cubs, with the other teams (Black Hawks, Bulls, White Sox) following in order according to which team is the hottest. Also, Chicago is passionate about their professional teams, but shows very little interest in college sports.

 

I have never gotten the impression that it goes both ways to even remotely similar degrees.

 

Most Cubs fans I personally know are indifferent to the White Sox. I grew up in the near north burbs. Some even passively cheered for the Sox in 05 so that a Chicago team would finally win something.

[Sammy Sofa]

Those people are very, very gross.

[Guest]

Those people are very, very gross.

 

Your mom is.

[Guest]

Also the white sox had the coolest looking gear in the 90s and i had a sox hat before i owned anything cubs related

 

i also had an albert belle jersey because dude was a beast

[Sammy Sofa]

Those people are very, very gross.

 

Your mom is.

 

She is, actually. She routinely roots for the Packers after the inevitable Bears collapse because "they're a Midwest team, too!"

 

Plus she comes from a large family of mostly Sox fans, so there's that, too.

[Guest]

Those people are very, very gross.

 

Your mom is.

 

She is, actually. She routinely roots for the Packers after the inevitable Bears collapse because "they're a Midwest team, too!"

 

Plus she comes from a large family of mostly Sox fans, so there's that, too.

 

lmao

[jersey cubs fan]

I have never gotten the impression that it goes both ways to even remotely similar degrees.

 

Most Cubs fans I personally know are indifferent to the White Sox. I grew up in the near north burbs. Some even passively cheered for the Sox in 05 so that a Chicago team would finally win something.

Don't you think limiting it to Cubs fan you personally know limits the sample size unfairly? I assume you would choose not to closely associate with idiots who are obsessed with the White Sox, but this site right here, and this very thread actually, prove they absolutely exist.

[jersey cubs fan]

Also the white sox had the coolest looking gear in the 90s and i had a sox hat before i owned anything cubs related

 

Coolest?

 

You were one of the idiots that fell for that marketing scheme?

[Guest]

I have never gotten the impression that it goes both ways to even remotely similar degrees.

 

Most Cubs fans I personally know are indifferent to the White Sox. I grew up in the near north burbs. Some even passively cheered for the Sox in 05 so that a Chicago team would finally win something.

Don't you think limiting it to Cubs fan you personally know limits the sample size unfairly? I assume you would choose not to closely associate with idiots who are obsessed with the White Sox, but this site right here, and this very thread actually, prove they absolutely exist.

 

I mean, sure it does. But I've also lived in the Chicago area for 30+ years now - maybe 20 of those as a somewhat aware human being - (and always more in what would be considered Cubs territory) and the vitriol just seems way more intense in one direction. Maybe I'm wrong.

[Guest]

Also the white sox had the coolest looking gear in the 90s and i had a sox hat before i owned anything cubs related

 

Coolest?

 

You were one of the idiots that fell for that marketing scheme?

 

I mean I was 9. You just called a 9 year old an idiot.

[Proven Veteran]

Also the white sox had the coolest looking gear in the 90s and i had a sox hat before i owned anything cubs related

 

Coolest?

 

You were one of the idiots that fell for that marketing scheme?

Yeah, it was horrible.

[SouthSideRyan]

Also the white sox had the coolest looking gear in the 90s and i had a sox hat before i owned anything cubs related

 

Coolest?

 

You were one of the idiots that fell for that marketing scheme?

 

I mean I was 9. You just called a 9 year old an idiot.

 

I doubt that's the first time.