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so all a catcher/fielder has to do is kneel in front of the bag and the runner has to just, what, give himself up? That's utterly ridiculous

 

I have to think there will be some serious restrictions on how the fielder can position themselves in front of the base/plate.

 

Well, yeah, they're obviously going to have to take away the catcher's right to completely block the plate. Pretty much like all the other bases. I also think the rule will end up primarily banning contact above the waist, which it pretty much responsible for all of the ugly collisions. They've done that in college ball and by all accounts it works fine.

 

It's not that complicated, really.

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Joe Torre and Sandy Alderson just announced that the MLB Rules Committee has voted to outlaw collisions at home plate. The decision is now subject to approval by the players. If the players do not approve the rule change it will not go into effect in 2014, but MLB would be able to unilaterally implement it in 2015. It is expected, however, that the players will approve the change.

 

The rule has yet to be formally defined or drafted, but the upshot of all of this will be that base runners will be required to slide into home plate, not initiate contact with the catcher. Likewise, catchers will not be able to block home plate. Rather, they must tag runners — and allow runners a path to the plate — just as any other fielder does at any other base. Players who violate the collision rules will be subject to discipline in all likelihood, though exact sanctions will be determined once the rule is finalized.

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We had a no collision rule in highschool but I didn't know it and I plastered a catcher Pete Rose style. I got booted from the game. My coach was so pissed at me he made me sit in the team bus the rest of the game and the second game of he double header. It was so freaking hot I thought I was going to have a heat stroke.

 

Great story, I know.

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Joe Torre and Sandy Alderson just announced that the MLB Rules Committee has voted to outlaw collisions at home plate. The decision is now subject to approval by the players. If the players do not approve the rule change it will not go into effect in 2014, but MLB would be able to unilaterally implement it in 2015. It is expected, however, that the players will approve the change.

 

The rule has yet to be formally defined or drafted, but the upshot of all of this will be that base runners will be required to slide into home plate, not initiate contact with the catcher. Likewise, catchers will not be able to block home plate. Rather, they must tag runners — and allow runners a path to the plate — just as any other fielder does at any other base. Players who violate the collision rules will be subject to discipline in all likelihood, though exact sanctions will be determined once the rule is finalized.

 

The rule should be amended to include white gloves for all base runners to avoid getting dirt under their fingernails.

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Joe Torre and Sandy Alderson just announced that the MLB Rules Committee has voted to outlaw collisions at home plate. The decision is now subject to approval by the players. If the players do not approve the rule change it will not go into effect in 2014, but MLB would be able to unilaterally implement it in 2015. It is expected, however, that the players will approve the change.

 

The rule has yet to be formally defined or drafted, but the upshot of all of this will be that base runners will be required to slide into home plate, not initiate contact with the catcher. Likewise, catchers will not be able to block home plate. Rather, they must tag runners — and allow runners a path to the plate — just as any other fielder does at any other base. Players who violate the collision rules will be subject to discipline in all likelihood, though exact sanctions will be determined once the rule is finalized.

 

The rule should be amended to include white gloves for all base runners to avoid getting dirt under their fingernails.

 

Pussification of America, amiright bro?

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Joe Torre and Sandy Alderson just announced that the MLB Rules Committee has voted to outlaw collisions at home plate. The decision is now subject to approval by the players. If the players do not approve the rule change it will not go into effect in 2014, but MLB would be able to unilaterally implement it in 2015. It is expected, however, that the players will approve the change.

 

The rule has yet to be formally defined or drafted, but the upshot of all of this will be that base runners will be required to slide into home plate, not initiate contact with the catcher. Likewise, catchers will not be able to block home plate. Rather, they must tag runners — and allow runners a path to the plate — just as any other fielder does at any other base. Players who violate the collision rules will be subject to discipline in all likelihood, though exact sanctions will be determined once the rule is finalized.

 

The rule should be amended to include white gloves for all base runners to avoid getting dirt under their fingernails.

 

Why on earth would you be pro home plate collision?

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After watching this year's NFL games, I have no faith that they can properly implement a rule that will be ruled on consistently by numerous umpiring crews.
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I think it's pretty simple. You won't be able to hunker down in front of the plate. And the runner won't be allowed to go in like a fullback making a hole. He'll have to slide or run through the base.

 

There will probably be a handful of collisions where the calls will be split between blaming the runner and blaming the catcher and after a few years it will hardly be an issue.

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Have there been any numbers thrown around in these discussion with the rule change about how many plays at home plate resulted in collisions last year? Or how many plays happened that are now "banned?"
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Have there been any numbers thrown around in these discussion with the rule change about how many plays at home plate resulted in collisions last year? Or how many plays happened that are now "banned?"

 

they haven't specified the rule so it is hard to say what has been banned exactly. As for the first part, I have no idea.

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After watching this year's NFL games, I have no faith that they can properly implement a rule that will be ruled on consistently by numerous umpiring crews.

 

Well one...why would what the NFL does have bearing on the MLB? You don't think they can judge a collision at home plate because they can't figure out what a catch is in the NFL?

 

And two, this is (apparently) the same rule that is already in play at 3 other bases. Are you outraged over those?

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After watching this year's NFL games, I have no faith that they can properly implement a rule that will be ruled on consistently by numerous umpiring crews.

 

Well one...why would what the NFL does have bearing on the MLB? You don't think they can judge a collision at home plate because they can't figure out what a catch is in the NFL?

 

And two, this is (apparently) the same rule that is already in play at 3 other bases. Are you outraged over those?

 

No faith does not equal outrage.

 

Collisions at home plate are not equal to making a catch in football. Collisions at home plate can be considered somewhat equal to collisions in football, like the defenseless receiver rule or contacting the qb at the shoulder or above or down at the knees. When a guys foot gets tangled up on the slide, the umpiring crew will have to make a determination as to whether the runner caused the contact with a questionable slide or the catcher caused the contact with a partial blockage of the plate. If you think these will just be simple black and white calls, you are likely mistaken.

 

Calls like this are subjective as to intent, and they blow those constantly with the new rules in football. I don't really see how they can avoid it in baseball. The umpires blow calls in baseball now as it is and now they have something else they have to watch for, which probably means more missed close calls at the plate.

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intent? what on earth does that have to do with anything? and how the [expletive] do you miss a guy running into another guy anyway? i don't think you really understand how this works
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After watching this year's NFL games, I have no faith that they can properly implement a rule that will be ruled on consistently by numerous umpiring crews.

 

Well one...why would what the NFL does have bearing on the MLB? You don't think they can judge a collision at home plate because they can't figure out what a catch is in the NFL?

 

And two, this is (apparently) the same rule that is already in play at 3 other bases. Are you outraged over those?

 

No faith does not equal outrage.

 

Collisions at home plate are not equal to making a catch in football. Collisions at home plate can be considered somewhat equal to collisions in football, like the defenseless receiver rule or contacting the qb at the shoulder or above or down at the knees. When a guys foot gets tangled up on the slide, the umpiring crew will have to make a determination as to whether the runner caused the contact with a questionable slide or the catcher caused the contact with a partial blockage of the plate. If you think these will just be simple black and white calls, you are likely mistaken.

 

Calls like this are subjective as to intent, and they blow those constantly with the new rules in football. I don't really see how they can avoid it in baseball. The umpires blow calls in baseball now as it is and now they have something else they have to watch for, which probably means more missed close calls at the plate.

 

So you think these guys will have their feet get tangled up while sliding and the result will be similar to the big collisions they are trying to get rid of?

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I just wonder what happens if a runner is rounding third and the catcher decides to block the plate. If the runner pulls up in order to not cause an illegal collision.....then what? You have to try to go around the catcher? Runner gives himself up? Ump gives him the run due to some sort of "blocking the base path" rule?

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