Prior signs a minor leeague deal with the Red Sox

[bhogg]

damnit I want to hurt things every time I see his name. . . .not because I dislike him, but because of what could have been.. . . . .Prior, Wood, Zambrano, Maddux, Clement.

[Little Slide Rooter]

damnit I want to hurt things every time I see his name. . . .not because I dislike him, but because of what could have been.. . . . .Prior, Wood, Zambrano, Maddux, Clement.

 

When putting together fantasy rotations for the Cubs of the mid 00's, they consistently forget how big of a deal Juan Cruz was as a prospect. Had he been able to reach his ceiling he'd argueably have been our #2 in any fantasy rotation even if Wood remained healthy.

[Cubswin11]

damnit I want to hurt things every time I see his name. . . .not because I dislike him, but because of what could have been.. . . . .Prior, Wood, Zambrano, Maddux, Clement.

 

When putting together fantasy rotations for the Cubs of the mid 00's, they consistently forget how big of a deal Juan Cruz was as a prospect. Had he been able to reach his ceiling he'd argueably have been our #2 in any fantasy rotation even if Wood remained healthy.

Angel Guzman as well.

[Named After Maddux]

 

When putting together fantasy rotations for the Cubs of the mid 00's, they consistently forget how big of a deal Juan Cruz was as a prospect. Had he been able to reach his ceiling he'd argueably have been our #2 in any fantasy rotation even if Wood remained healthy.

I remember a BA article after Prior was drafted that gave an in depth analysis of whether the author felt that Cruz or Prior should be higher ranked and ended up going with Cruz, admittedly because he had pitched against professional hitters. It was a very interesting read and frankly, for a Cubs fan... Really exciting.

But I think you're right. People forget about how highly thought of Cruz was.

[17 Seconds]

prior <3

[illiniguy]

 

When putting together fantasy rotations for the Cubs of the mid 00's, they consistently forget how big of a deal Juan Cruz was as a prospect. Had he been able to reach his ceiling he'd argueably have been our #2 in any fantasy rotation even if Wood remained healthy.

I remember a BA article after Prior was drafted that gave an in depth analysis of whether the author felt that Cruz or Prior should be higher ranked and ended up going with Cruz, admittedly because he had pitched against professional hitters. It was a very interesting read and frankly, for a Cubs fan... Really exciting.

But I think you're right. People forget about how highly thought of Cruz was.

And then we found out he was actually doing all that stuff in the minors at 4 years older than what he was listed as.

[Benchwarmer]

 

When putting together fantasy rotations for the Cubs of the mid 00's, they consistently forget how big of a deal Juan Cruz was as a prospect. Had he been able to reach his ceiling he'd argueably have been our #2 in any fantasy rotation even if Wood remained healthy.

I remember a BA article after Prior was drafted that gave an in depth analysis of whether the author felt that Cruz or Prior should be higher ranked and ended up going with Cruz, admittedly because he had pitched against professional hitters. It was a very interesting read and frankly, for a Cubs fan... Really exciting.

But I think you're right. People forget about how highly thought of Cruz was.

 

Since 2005-Cruz has more Wins.

[Guest]

 

When putting together fantasy rotations for the Cubs of the mid 00's, they consistently forget how big of a deal Juan Cruz was as a prospect. Had he been able to reach his ceiling he'd argueably have been our #2 in any fantasy rotation even if Wood remained healthy.

I remember a BA article after Prior was drafted that gave an in depth analysis of whether the author felt that Cruz or Prior should be higher ranked and ended up going with Cruz, admittedly because he had pitched against professional hitters. It was a very interesting read and frankly, for a Cubs fan... Really exciting.

But I think you're right. People forget about how highly thought of Cruz was.

And then we found out he was actually doing all that stuff in the minors at 4 years older than what he was listed as.

 

yea. the age thing was what killed it.

 

still, i'm still mad at dusty for not starting him over estes.

[SouthSideRyan]

 

When putting together fantasy rotations for the Cubs of the mid 00's, they consistently forget how big of a deal Juan Cruz was as a prospect. Had he been able to reach his ceiling he'd argueably have been our #2 in any fantasy rotation even if Wood remained healthy.

I remember a BA article after Prior was drafted that gave an in depth analysis of whether the author felt that Cruz or Prior should be higher ranked and ended up going with Cruz, admittedly because he had pitched against professional hitters. It was a very interesting read and frankly, for a Cubs fan... Really exciting.

But I think you're right. People forget about how highly thought of Cruz was.

 

Since 2005-Cruz has more Wins.

 

Since 2003 (Frown face)

[NewUserName]

Zambrano was kind of the after thought pitching prospect. Remembering how bright the Cub future looked in 2002/03 is kind of depressing now.

[Clem Fandango]

Why did the Cubs ship Cruz off for scraps? I was looking at his numbers... he had a bad 2003 at the MLB level at the age of 24, one year removed from being the 6th best overall prospect in all of baseball... and the Cubs traded him and Steve Smythe for Richard Lewis and Andy Pratt?

 

Why did they give up on him so quickly?

[SouthSideRyan]

Why did the Cubs ship Cruz off for scraps? I was looking at his numbers... he had a bad 2003 at the MLB level at the age of 24, one year removed from being the 6th best overall prospect in all of baseball... and the Cubs traded him and Steve Smythe for Richard Lewis and Andy Pratt?

 

Why did they give up on him so quickly?

 

Out of options I think.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Why did the Cubs ship Cruz off for scraps? I was looking at his numbers... he had a bad 2003 at the MLB level at the age of 24, one year removed from being the 6th best overall prospect in all of baseball... and the Cubs traded him and Steve Smythe for Richard Lewis and Andy Pratt?

 

Why did they give up on him so quickly?

 

Out of options I think.

 

Richard Lewis and Andy Pratt were both pretty solid prospects, so it was pobably the best we could get at that point. Lewis was our Minor League Hitter of the year in '04 or '05 and then broke his leg sliding into second.

[illiniguy]

Zambrano was kind of the after thought pitching prospect. Remembering how bright the Cub future looked in 2002/03 is kind of depressing now.

Why? We made the playoff 3 times since then. Pretty impressive considering we are in the same division as the Caridnals who had just an amazing decade.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Zambrano was kind of the after thought pitching prospect. Remembering how bright the Cub future looked in 2002/03 is kind of depressing now.

Why? We made the playoff 3 times since then. Pretty impressive considering we are in the same division as the Caridnals who had just an amazing decade.

 

Because with the quality of prospects we had pumping through the system in the early part of the decade and the money spent in the later part we should have more to show for it than a few division flags and painful October memories.

[illiniguy]

Zambrano was kind of the after thought pitching prospect. Remembering how bright the Cub future looked in 2002/03 is kind of depressing now.

Why? We made the playoff 3 times since then. Pretty impressive considering we are in the same division as the Caridnals who had just an amazing decade.

 

Because with the quality of prospects we had pumping through the system in the early part of the decade and the money spent in the later part we should have more to show for it than a few division flags and painful October memories.

None of our prospects were Albert Pujols good during that era. Even Prior wasn't at that Level. We had a decent run.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Zambrano was kind of the after thought pitching prospect. Remembering how bright the Cub future looked in 2002/03 is kind of depressing now.

Why? We made the playoff 3 times since then. Pretty impressive considering we are in the same division as the Caridnals who had just an amazing decade.

 

Because with the quality of prospects we had pumping through the system in the early part of the decade and the money spent in the later part we should have more to show for it than a few division flags and painful October memories.

None of our prospects were Albert Pujols good during that era. Even Prior wasn't at that Level. We had a decent run.

 

Everything went right for the Cardinals and a lot went wrong for us. That doesn't make it any less dissapointing.

 

We had a multitude of failed prospects, injuries, and bad contracts. They got Albert Pujols in the 18th round, Chris Carpenter off the scrap heap, and a world series with a rotation of Chris Carpenter and a bunch of guys who never did anthing worthwhile again after dispursing throughout the division.

[erik316wttn]

damnit I want to hurt things every time I see his name. . . .not because I dislike him, but because of what could have been.. . . . .Prior, Wood, Zambrano, Maddux, Clement.

 

Damn, that was a hell of a rotation. Any time a guy like Matt Clement was your #5 starter, you had some damn good pitching.

[cubbieblue22]

Good luck to Mark. As a Cubs fan, you have to root for him. He probably feels this will be his last go at it and more power to him if he can get back to the bigs.

 

His 03 season down the stretch was about as fun to watch as any Cubs pitcher I can remember.

 

The sad thing about that is that I still remember stone saying something like you are witnessing what should be the infant stage of a magnificent career. How things turned out. Sigh.

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

You know what's annoying? The Internet, beyond being able to find the '03 stats, does not remember Mark Prior. Look for an old Prior scouting report or a video clip...nothing.

 

Lol he's like a super devastating thought to any Cub fan from that period and the Internet kind of just throws it all in perspectiv by handing out zero fucks.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Red Sox Release Mark Prior

By Zach Links [August 17 at 3:15pm CST]

The Red Sox have released right-hander Mark Prior, according to Brendan McGair of the Pawtucket Times (via Twitter). The move was made in order to create space for the newly-acquired Pedro Beato.

 

Prior, 31, hooked on with the Red Sox in early May as he looked to attempt yet another comeback. During his time in Triple-A Pawtucket, Prior posted a 3.96 ERA with 13.7 K/9 and 8.3 BB/9 in a small sample size of 25 innings of work. The second-overall pick in 2001 was brilliant in the early portion of his career but has not pitched in the majors since 2006 thanks to a series of shoulder problems.

 

Now there's a flier I'd love to take out. Still, it's looking more and more like this story won't have a happy ending.

[Clem Fandango]

http://www.northsidebaseball.com//forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=58913&start=175

[Sammy Sofa]

How the [expletive] did he possibly missed the other thread?

[Little Slide Rooter]

Perhaps searching the transactions forum instead of the general baseball discussions? [expletive], pick your battles.

[Sammy Sofa]

You don't use active discussions?

 

That explains a lot.