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I missed the part where I decided what he's doing with his life.

 

 

Because he can't stay healthy and keeps ending up under the knife. When is it enough? He's never going to pitch in the majors again. He has plenty of money. Go live your life, the dream is over.

 

That's my opinion on what he should do. Where did I say he shouldn't be allowed to play anymore?

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I missed the part where I decided what he's doing with his life.

 

 

Because he can't stay healthy and keeps ending up under the knife. When is it enough? He's never going to pitch in the majors again. He has plenty of money. Go live your life, the dream is over.

 

That's my opinion on what he should do. Where did I say he shouldn't be allowed to play anymore?

 

C'mon. It's all about your delivery. Don't play the "it's just my opinion" card. You knew you were going to get some kind of reaction to that post.

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It pains me to agree with Nuts and some of the others on here, but they are spot on. If you had the kind of talent he had would you give up? Even if their was a slim chance of playing MLB again? I think it's hard for you to relate because you've probably never excelled in anything and had it prematurely taken away from you.

 

Hey, I'm usually a cynical prick, but it would make this year a little special to see him back on the bump this year and see him get another K.

 

Edit: this is towards Old Style.

I wouldn't give up right away, but after 6 years of not being able to come anywhwere close to what I once had I hope I would be able to walk away and move on to the next chapter of my life. As far as the Rickey Henderson comparison that someone else made, I thought that was sad. Does he not have a life outside of baseball? I know a very good jazz drummer (not famous, but he made money playing) who had to quit because of medical reasons. Sure he's diappointed but he's not fighting it. He's more than just a drummer and he's successful with his life after music.

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Why wouldn't he? Because he already reached that peak for several years, and the process of returning there is wrought with a lot of pain, surgeries, rehab, MiLB bus trips, etc. When you're Bryan LaHair who's never had that taste? Easy for me to see that dedication. When you're Mark Prior that's played at the highest level and banked millions of bucks? I don't know if I'd be so committed to trying to become the white Angel Guzman.

 

Right. You don't know because you aren't Mark Prior nor have you ever played MLB baseball. It's silly to compare yourself to his situation. And the Angel Guzman comparison is stupid.

 

Thank you for bringing obnoxiousness back to this thread.

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I don't understand the "just give it up" crowd. You people are on another planet. The guy is getting paid to pay baseball. He's not putting off an opportunity to be a brain surgeon. He's only got a degree from USC to fall back on and the rest of the economy outside of the professional sports, entertainment and technology universe kind of sucks. Rehab and bus rides to small cities sure as hell beats waking up every morning at 7, driving an hour to sit at a desk and making $50,000 to file TPS reports. He's got 30 more years of life to do boring ass real life work. He's seen his former teammate Kerry Wood get back to the top after seemingly ending his career with a worthless arm. He's seen any number of formerly washed up pitchers succeed with one last try. He's only 32. Why the hell wouldn't he keep giving it a shot if teams kept giving him the opportunity? It's lunacy to suggest he should stop.
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Why wouldn't he? Because he already reached that peak for several years, and the process of returning there is wrought with a lot of pain, surgeries, rehab, MiLB bus trips, etc. When you're Bryan LaHair who's never had that taste? Easy for me to see that dedication. When you're Mark Prior that's played at the highest level and banked millions of bucks? I don't know if I'd be so committed to trying to become the white Angel Guzman.

 

Right. You don't know because you aren't Mark Prior nor have you ever played MLB baseball. It's silly to compare yourself to his situation. And the Angel Guzman comparison is stupid.

 

Thank you for bringing obnoxiousness back to this thread.

 

Obnoxiousness? i thought I was being the most reasonable?

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Like I said, I don't begrudge him for sticking with it. At the same time, considering his physical and financial situation, it's certainly not crazy for him to say "it's not worth it to work that hard just to be a middle reliever for a season or two, I'm gonna go be a 1%er and do nothing" either.

 

If you mean "1%" as in the Occupy Wall Street sense, they don't sit around and do nothing. They do most things in this country and pay the bills. If you meant the 1% that play professional baseball, nevermind.

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Like I said, I don't begrudge him for sticking with it. At the same time, considering his physical and financial situation, it's certainly not crazy for him to say "it's not worth it to work that hard just to be a middle reliever for a season or two, I'm gonna go be a 1%er and do nothing" either.

 

If you mean "1%" as in the Occupy Wall Street sense, they don't sit around and do nothing. They do most things in this country and pay the bills. If you meant the 1% that play professional baseball, nevermind.

 

Well look at this gem way outside of the political thread. Can we finally change your name to "Right-wing Nutjob-y?"

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Like I said, I don't begrudge him for sticking with it. At the same time, considering his physical and financial situation, it's certainly not crazy for him to say "it's not worth it to work that hard just to be a middle reliever for a season or two, I'm gonna go be a 1%er and do nothing" either.

 

If you mean "1%" as in the Occupy Wall Street sense, they don't sit around and do nothing. They do most things in this country and pay the bills. If you meant the 1% that play professional baseball, nevermind.

Yes, we are all talking about Prior's former career as wealthy Wall Street executive. Nice political rant having to do with nothing.

 

 

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Like I said, I don't begrudge him for sticking with it. At the same time, considering his physical and financial situation, it's certainly not crazy for him to say "it's not worth it to work that hard just to be a middle reliever for a season or two, I'm gonna go be a 1%er and do nothing" either.

 

If you mean "1%" as in the Occupy Wall Street sense, they don't sit around and do nothing. They do most things in this country and pay the bills. If you meant the 1% that play professional baseball, nevermind.

 

Well look at this gem way outside of the political thread. Can we finally change your name to "Right-wing Nutjob-y?"

 

Seriously though, if he's out of baseball he's sure as hell not going to be living like a 1%. If he's made $12m while working in Illinois and California he's probably already seen more than half of that go away in taxes and agent fees. He's probably diddled away $1m or so on toys and vacations. Most of that was earned prior to market crash, which means he could have easily lost a significant portion of the principal. He probably has spent $1m or more on a house with a very high tax bill that is worth a lot less now and he might have $1-2m of free cash earning 1% for him. He's not making it through life with that unless he moves back in with mom and dad. And he sure as [expletive] isn't living like a 1%er. You have to actually have an income to do that, not just $1m in the bank.

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I don't understand the "just give it up" crowd. You people are on another planet. The guy is getting paid to pay baseball. He's not putting off an opportunity to be a brain surgeon. He's only got a degree from USC to fall back on and the rest of the economy outside of the professional sports, entertainment and technology universe kind of sucks. Rehab and bus rides to small cities sure as hell beats waking up every morning at 7, driving an hour to sit at a desk and making $50,000 to file TPS reports. He's got 30 more years of life to do boring ass real life work. He's seen his former teammate Kerry Wood get back to the top after seemingly ending his career with a worthless arm. He's seen any number of formerly washed up pitchers succeed with one last try. He's only 32. Why the hell wouldn't he keep giving it a shot if teams kept giving him the opportunity? It's lunacy to suggest he should stop.

LOL. What kind of moron would think that moving on with his life means he'd have to get up at 7am to drive an hour to work to sit at a desk making $50K in some lame job like one of us? Even if he HAD to work for monetary reasons there are many things he could do to make more money doing something he theoretically would enjoy assuming his happiness extends past the mound.

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LOL. What kind of moron would think that moving on with his life means he'd have to get up at 7am to drive an hour to work to sit at a desk making $50K in some lame job like one of us? Even if he HAD to work for monetary reasons there are many things he could do to make more money doing something he theoretically would enjoy assuming his happiness extends past the mound.

 

What makes you think he wouldn't have to work for monetary reasons? He's not sitting on a massive trust fund.

 

How about the theory that maybe he enjoys pitching, that's why he's doing it?

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Besides, it's not like he's banking big bucks with these minor league deals, is he?

 

He's probably drawing a bigger income than he would just sitting on what he made 8 years ago.

 

I'm guessing a former major leaguer signing a minor league deal is getting somewhere in the upper 5 digits. Maybe $75,000.

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I know he didn't make megabucks in the majors, but surely he had some endorsement deals over the years to pad that income. And I would hope that he didn't MC Hammer all of his money away. How much do you think he makes in the minors? He could coach, take a TV job on the MLB Network, write a book, become a motivational speaker, etc. All of those would pay more than what he's making now I'd imagine.
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I know he didn't make megabucks in the majors, but surely he had some endorsement deals over the years to pad that income. And I would hope that he didn't MC Hammer all of his money away. How much do you think he makes in the minors? He could coach, take a TV job on the MLB Network, write a book, become a motivational speaker, etc. All of those would pay more than what he's making now I'd imagine.

 

He's not the least bit interesting to listen to and nobody likes him, so a career in media is going to require starting from the bottom. Is that more enjoyable than playing baseball? If he wants to coach he'll have to start at the college or minor league level. Is that more enjoyable than playing baseball? Writing a book or motivational speaker are probably extremely unlikely future jobs for Mark Prior.

 

You don't have to MC Hammer away your money to not be able to live off a 5 year career where you made $12m. Taxes, lawyer/agent fees, family requests, personal expenses, buying a house and just generally living the life of a major leaguer is going to leave you with a nest egg that almost certainly won't come close to allowing you to live like a 1%er for the next 70 years. No amount of appearance fees from Just Ducky are going to allow you to coast through life.

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Like I said, I don't begrudge him for sticking with it. At the same time, considering his physical and financial situation, it's certainly not crazy for him to say "it's not worth it to work that hard just to be a middle reliever for a season or two, I'm gonna go be a 1%er and do nothing" either.

 

If you mean "1%" as in the Occupy Wall Street sense, they don't sit around and do nothing. They do most things in this country and pay the bills. If you meant the 1% that play professional baseball, nevermind.

Yes, we are all talking about Prior's former career as wealthy Wall Street executive. Nice political rant having to do with nothing.

 

 

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Just so Lefty doesn't get bashed for nothing, it was TT that brought up the 1% and doing nothing. Lefty probably should have left it alone, but it's not like he's the one that brought it into the discussion.

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I know he didn't make megabucks in the majors, but surely he had some endorsement deals over the years to pad that income. And I would hope that he didn't MC Hammer all of his money away. How much do you think he makes in the minors? He could coach, take a TV job on the MLB Network, write a book, become a motivational speaker, etc. All of those would pay more than what he's making now I'd imagine.

 

Jesus Christ, maybe he just wants to pitch.

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This thread confuses me. If a guy wants to try and live out his dream, he should. He has all the time in the world to go and coach or do whatever else he may feel like doing in a few years. Because something tells me we're not looking at a Jamie Moyeresque type career with Prior.
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This thread confuses me. If a guy wants to try and live out his dream, he should. He has all the time in the world to go and coach or do whatever else he may feel like doing in a few years. Because something tells me we're not looking at a Jamie Moyeresque type career with Prior.

 

Although when batters face him they may feel like they are facing a Jamie Moyeresque fastball.

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This thread confuses me. If a guy wants to try and live out his dream, he should. He has all the time in the world to go and coach or do whatever else he may feel like doing in a few years. Because something tells me we're not looking at a Jamie Moyeresque type career with Prior.

 

Although when batters face him they may feel like they are facing a Jamie Moyeresque fastball.

 

 

Oops, well played sir.

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I read a quote he had saying if he didn't keep trying he would someday wake up and regret giving it up before he was physically finished. Good for him. I still hope he makes it back up, even if it is just a Sept. call up.
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I know he didn't make megabucks in the majors, but surely he had some endorsement deals over the years to pad that income. And I would hope that he didn't MC Hammer all of his money away. How much do you think he makes in the minors? He could coach, take a TV job on the MLB Network, write a book, become a motivational speaker, etc. All of those would pay more than what he's making now I'd imagine.

 

Jesus Christ, maybe he just wants to pitch.

Maybe someday he'll be able to do it again. It's only been 6 years.

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I know he didn't make megabucks in the majors, but surely he had some endorsement deals over the years to pad that income. And I would hope that he didn't MC Hammer all of his money away. How much do you think he makes in the minors? He could coach, take a TV job on the MLB Network, write a book, become a motivational speaker, etc. All of those would pay more than what he's making now I'd imagine.

 

Jesus Christ, maybe he just wants to pitch.

Maybe someday he'll be able to do it again. It's only been 6 years.

So what? Who is he hurting by trying?

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