Re: College Basketball 2012-2013

[Sosa21MVP]

Matt Painter, lol.

[Smack]

Matt Painter, lol.

 

He's going to crean some people this off season and then I won't be able to make fun of Crean for doing it anymore...

 

:(

[Magnetic Curses]

MAKE WAY FOR BASIL SMOTHERMAN!

[Exile on Waveland]

time to reassess michigan or just a terrible game against a great team on the road? I just don't know anymore. They will fatten up on the Penn States on the league coming up, but that doesnt exactly inspire confidence. Trying not to be down because they are still a very talented team but yeah...

 

Michigan is still really good. They're still a Final Four caliber team. They still have a very good chance of sharing the Big Ten title (outright has probably passed). They still have really good talent (including the best point guard in the nation) and a really good coach. The Michigan State game was a Murphy's Law game and I suspect Michigan was worn down from their brutal at Indiana-Ohio State-at Wisconsin (heartbreaker)-at Michigan State stretch. It happens.

 

However, if the standard is "will win the Big Ten by three games" (Shane Ryan) or "way better than Indiana" (this board), then, uh, yeah those need to be reassessed (they should have been assessed before ever being written). They're a perimeter-oriented/jump-shooting team without much scoring inside (McGary keeps playing better and better, yes), a relatively subpar defense (forty-first most efficient defense, second worst among Pomeroy's top-15), that is also quite young (three freshmen in the top-six and nary a senior that plays). They're in a group of teams that could legitimately win the title without it being a big surprise, but they are not a juggernaut.

Edited February 14, 2013 by Exile on Waveland

[Exile on Waveland]

Matt Painter, lol.

 

He's going to crean some people this off season and then I won't be able to make fun of Crean for doing it anymore...

 

:(

 

Hasn't stopped you before.

[Exile on Waveland]

The people on the Illinois scout board are great. Predicting a collapse like last year, saying Groce is in over his head. That's 6 out of 7 with two winnable games coming up.

 

The fact that Groce kept this team together when they were 2-7 in the league bodes very well; better than anything else that has happened even.

[Exile on Waveland]

You haven't beaten Purdue since December of 2008, CELEBRATE!

 

It's tough to watch your team go from a national title contender to a perennial bubble squad at best. You'll get over it.

 

I also read we're a real contender for Lyle, so the inevitable question is who are plan B and C at this point, because that's who we'll end up with.

Maybe, if it comes down to us and Louisville I really think we might get him. Louisville has three other point guards that will be there when he gets to campus.

 

Wherever he goes, I hope his coach can fill the father-figure role he has been missing (he lives with his grandmother). Good kid, but needs to grow up (even more than most teenagers). Missed a big rivalry the other game and is currently suspended (though perhaps/evidently only for missing the team bus) (http://www.courierpress.com/news/2013/feb/12/harrison-routs-bosse-clinches-tie-siac-title-clinc/).

[Sosa21MVP]

http://deadspin.com/5984254/the-fighting-illini-ticket-office-chose-an-unfortunate-picture-to-advertise-the-penn-state-game

[Smack]

http://deadspin.com/5984254/the-fighting-illini-ticket-office-chose-an-unfortunate-picture-to-advertise-the-penn-state-game

 

hahaha

[Smack]

Matt Painter, lol.

 

He's going to crean some people this off season and then I won't be able to make fun of Crean for doing it anymore...

 

:(

 

Hasn't stopped you before.

 

You're right, I'll fight through it.

[scarey]

Matt Painter, lol.

 

He's going to crean some people this off season and then I won't be able to make fun of Crean for doing it anymore...

 

:(

 

Am I missing something here? Is Painter still recruiting for 2013-2014?

[Derwood]

http://deadspin.com/5984254/the-fighting-illini-ticket-office-chose-an-unfortunate-picture-to-advertise-the-penn-state-game

 

 

That's unfortunate and awkward even WITHOUT the PSU connection

[Smack]

Matt Painter, lol.

 

He's going to crean some people this off season and then I won't be able to make fun of Crean for doing it anymore...

 

:(

 

Am I missing something here? Is Painter still recruiting for 2013-2014?

 

Yes he is. He had an offer out to 2013 PG Corn Elder as recently as this week but he chose to go to Miami to play football (4-Star FB recruit).

 

Sandi will be a 5th year Senior next year so he would be the most likely departure. I'm thinking Lawson might transfer out just to get playing time.

[Formerly Snayke]

Elston Turner is going off.

 

He was perfect from the field in the first half. Ended up 7-10 from 3-point range. And choked on the front end of a 1 and 1 with 4 seconds left up 2. Thank God that bitch Henderson had already fouled out.

 

It's a good thing aTm has Turner because that is one horrid offensive team. He, on the other hand, is pretty awesome.

[illiniguy]

You haven't beaten Purdue since December of 2008, CELEBRATE!

 

It's tough to watch your team go from a national title contender to a perennial bubble squad at best. You'll get over it.

 

I also read we're a real contender for Lyle, so the inevitable question is who are plan B and C at this point, because that's who we'll end up with.

Maybe, if it comes down to us and Louisville I really think we might get him. Louisville has three other point guards that will be there when he gets to campus.

 

Wherever he goes, I hope his coach can fill the father-figure role he has been missing (he lives with his grandmother). Good kid, but needs to grow up (even more than most teenagers). Missed a big rivalry the other game and is currently suspended (though perhaps/evidently only for missing the team bus) (http://www.courierpress.com/news/2013/feb/12/harrison-routs-bosse-clinches-tie-siac-title-clinc/).

I keep hearing he got into a fight at school. But yeah, he needs a coach to help him grow up.

[illiniguy]

You haven't beaten Purdue since December of 2008, CELEBRATE!

 

It's tough to watch your team go from a national title contender to a perennial bubble squad at best. You'll get over it.

 

I also read we're a real contender for Lyle, so the inevitable question is who are plan B and C at this point, because that's who we'll end up with.

 

 

We're a perennial bubble team? Since when?

 

I thought he was talking about Illinois?

Well we had a purdue guy running things. Makes sense we would become a bubble program.

[Smack]

You haven't beaten Purdue since December of 2008, CELEBRATE!

 

It's tough to watch your team go from a national title contender to a perennial bubble squad at best. You'll get over it.

 

I also read we're a real contender for Lyle, so the inevitable question is who are plan B and C at this point, because that's who we'll end up with.

 

 

We're a perennial bubble team? Since when?

 

I thought he was talking about Illinois?

Well we had a purdue guy running things. Makes sense we would become a bubble program.

 

Yeah, that makes great sense.

[illiniguy]

Take out glen Robinson and look at the Keady years. Then see if you see what I meant.

1989 15-16

1990 22-8

1991 17-12

1992 18-15

1993 18-10

1997 18-12

1998 28-8

1999 21-13

2000 24-10

2001 17-15

2002 13-18

2003 19-11

2004 17-14

2005 7-21

 

Those are all bubble or worse years. The Glen Robinson years were obviously awesome though.

[Smack]

Take out glen Robinson and look at the Keady years. Then see if you see what I meant.

1989 15-16

1990 22-8

1991 17-12

1992 18-15

1993 18-10

1997 18-12

1998 28-8

1999 21-13

2000 24-10

2001 17-15

2002 13-18

2003 19-11

2004 17-14

2005 7-21

 

Those are all bubble or worse years. The Glen Robinson years were obviously awesome though.

 

Keady made the NCAA tournament 17 times. Painter has made the tournament 6 out of 7 years. Michigan has made the tournament 19 times, ever. Wisconsin 18. If you want to run the man down for not making Final Fours, that I can see.

[illiniguy]

Take out glen Robinson and look at the Keady years. Then see if you see what I meant.

1989 15-16

1990 22-8

1991 17-12

1992 18-15

1993 18-10

1997 18-12

1998 28-8

1999 21-13

2000 24-10

2001 17-15

2002 13-18

2003 19-11

2004 17-14

2005 7-21

 

Those are all bubble or worse years. The Glen Robinson years were obviously awesome though.

 

Keady made the NCAA tournament 17 times. Painter has made the tournament 6 out of 7 years. Michigan has made the tournament 19 times, ever. Wisconsin 18. If you want to run the man down for not making Final Fours, that I can see.

You can make the tournament while on the bubble. Keady did often. That's one of the perks of coaching at a big ten school.

[Smack]

You can make the tournament while on the bubble. Keady did often. That's one of the perks of coaching at a big ten school.

 

He finished in the Top 3 of the Big Ten 13 times during those 17 appearances. Also, he had an appearance at Western Kentucky so he has 18 as a coach.

 

How many coaches have more appearances?

[illiniguy]

You can make the tournament while on the bubble. Keady did often. That's one of the perks of coaching at a big ten school.

 

He finished in the Top 3 of the Big Ten 13 times during those 17 appearances. Also, he had an appearance at Western Kentucky so he has 18 as a coach.

 

How many coaches have more appearances?

Those records I highlighted are bubble records. Are you saying they aren't?

[Guest]

Now playing the role of da bum...

[Smack]

You can make the tournament while on the bubble. Keady did often. That's one of the perks of coaching at a big ten school.

 

He finished in the Top 3 of the Big Ten 13 times during those 17 appearances. Also, he had an appearance at Western Kentucky so he has 18 as a coach.

 

How many coaches have more appearances?

Those records I highlighted are bubble records. Are you saying they aren't?

 

He didn't make the tournament every year, he had bubble years. Finishing in the Top 3 of the B1G is not a bubble year. He did that 13 times. He won 6 Big Ten Championships, an average of every four years over a 25 year span.

 

Considering only 40 some PROGRAMS have made the tournament more times than Keady it's pretty clear that he's one of the more succesful coaches in history in terms of NCAA appearances.

[Magnetic Curses]

http://deadspin.com/5984254/the-fighting-illini-ticket-office-chose-an-unfortunate-picture-to-advertise-the-penn-state-game

 

gotta be on purpose, right?