Chicago Bears Offseason 2012

[Guest]

With the addition of Marshall, Jeffery, and McClellin and with Jay coming back... I'm more excited for this coming Bears season than any in recent memory.

 

Yea. I'm so excited to watch this offense.

 

Plus Bush.

 

Bennett now as the #3 threat in defensive game planning. He could have a huge season playing against nickelbacks. Assuming Jeffery puts forth the effort.

 

Jeffery has to earn the #2 receiver role, he'll probably be the #3 WR who gets to face nickelbacks.

[Guest]

With the addition of Marshall, Jeffery, and McClellin and with Jay coming back... I'm more excited for this coming Bears season than any in recent memory.

 

Yea. I'm so excited to watch this offense.

 

Plus Bush.

 

Yep. Jay's numbers are gonna explode.

[Soul]

If McClellin and Jeffery both become solid starters and we get a few solid seasons out of 2 more guys, then this draft is a success. If not, it's not. The main thing this draft has proved is Emery goes off his own board and not a consensus. We'll know early on if he's right or not.

 

Right, and it's his call to make. If the guys succeed he's a hero and if they suck he won't be around long. I'm hoping he's right!

 

Well that's simply wrong.

 

First of all, it's about the likelihood that his picks will turn out a success.

 

Secondly, even if he turns out to be a relatively poor GM, the Bears may very well hang on to him anyway.

 

What's wrong about him being a hero if the players he drafts succeed? I guess it would just be luck since he went against Mel Kiper? He's already a terrible goat in most of your minds.

 

There's nothing wrong at all if his players succeed. I'm rooting for it. I'd just like a greater chance of that happening, that's all.

 

Please don't play the Kiper card. He's not the only one who had Massie on the top of the board. Not even remotely close.

[Magnetic Curses]

If you think there is a decent chance Rodriguez is available in the 6th, you take someone else that probably won't be in the 4th. There's no way Rodriguez is THE missing link to this being a SB team, so if you miss on him, who really cares? Grab something else.

 

they obviously felt that he wouldn't be available in the 6th, and they wanted him more than a player that they liked less. i don't see how that's so hard to grasp.

[Wilson A2000]

The Bears were 6th in scoring when Jay went down. With the additions at WR and RB and a scheme that will protect Jay more, I'm hoping for a smoother, more consistent offense that is less risky. The line was right in the middle of the pack when it came to protecting Jay before he got hurt believe it or not. They should be better, but I'm still scared that the Bears have a poor LT. Just takes one shot on Jay for the season to be over.

[Soul]

If you think there is a decent chance Rodriguez is available in the 6th, you take someone else that probably won't be in the 4th. There's no way Rodriguez is THE missing link to this being a SB team, so if you miss on him, who really cares? Grab something else.

 

they obviously felt that he wouldn't be available in the 6th, and they wanted him more than a player that they liked less. i don't see how that's so hard to grasp.

 

That's not hard to grasp at all. Obviously they made the picks they wanted to. It's not like some random drunk fan was calling them in, having hijacked Emery's war room.

 

No. Indeed, this is the real Emery.

[davell]

Dickerson brought up a good point on Twitter. This is an entirely different type of draft than what we've had with Angelo. We took a 3-4 DE, instead of a prototype. We traded up for a WR, which was unheard of, and we took a character risk guy in the 4th. It's definitely a different take. Hell, it may be worse, for all we know. But, it's different at least. As much as I've disagreed with some of these picks, I'm still excited as hell to watch it play out.

[Smack]

 

Please don't play the Kiper card. He's not the only one who had Massie on the top of the board. Not even remotely close.

 

He was the top rated player for like 80 picks, everyone was passing on him.

[Soul]

 

Please don't play the Kiper card. He's not the only one who had Massie on the top of the board. Not even remotely close.

 

He was the top rated player for like 80 picks, everyone was passing on him.

 

His value point fell right to where we picked. It was such an obvious pick for us it isn't even funny. It has nothing to do with Kiper.

[Magnetic Curses]

If you think there is a decent chance Rodriguez is available in the 6th, you take someone else that probably won't be in the 4th. There's no way Rodriguez is THE missing link to this being a SB team, so if you miss on him, who really cares? Grab something else.

 

they obviously felt that he wouldn't be available in the 6th, and they wanted him more than a player that they liked less. i don't see how that's so hard to grasp.

 

That's not hard to grasp at all. Obviously they made the picks they wanted to. It's not like some random drunk fan was calling them in, having hijacked Emery's war room.

 

No. Indeed, this is the real Emery.

 

i doubt many fans of any team have gotten the drafts that they've wanted. i'm not going to say that the "pros" don't make mistakes, they obviously do, a lot. but let's give these guys some time.

 

jeffery is an impact player, and the more i think about hardin, the more impressed i am with his tangibles (a 6'3'' db in a zone scheme that runs a 4.34? i don't think i've ever seen one of those) . i see the value in rodriguez, he is a load with good hands that runs very well and is a bit of a thug. i can get down on those 3 picks. it's the mclellin i'm not sure about, but he'll get his time to impress me.

[Magnetic Curses]

 

Please don't play the Kiper card. He's not the only one who had Massie on the top of the board. Not even remotely close.

 

He was the top rated player for like 80 picks, everyone was passing on him.

 

His value point fell right to where we picked. It was such an obvious pick for us it isn't even funny. It has nothing to do with Kiper.

 

why is it an obvious pick? we have a right tackle and we have guys that back up right tackle. massie is not a left tackle and that's what we needed. i'm ok with not picking a tackle at all if we didn't do it in the first two days.

[rawaction]

Dickerson brought up a good point on Twitter. This is an entirely different type of draft than what we've had with Angelo. We took a 3-4 DE, instead of a prototype. We traded up for a WR, which was unheard of, and we took a character risk guy in the 4th. It's definitely a different take. Hell, it may be worse, for all we know. But, it's different at least. As much as I've disagreed with some of these picks, I'm still excited as hell to watch it play out.

 

Are you sure it's that much different?

 

Last year, 2nd round, Marvin Austin goes off the board. Bears trade up 9 spots to take Stephen Paea because he's the next best DT on the board in their opinion and they don't want to miss out on him.

 

This year, 2nd round, Stephen Hill goes off the board. Bears trade up 5 spots to take Alshon Jeffery because he's the next best WR on the board in their opinion and they don't want to miss out on him.

 

Last year, take a Pac-10/12 safety in the 3rd round that was a converted CB that had impressive measurables for Height/Weight/Speed.

This year, take a Pac-10/12 safety in the 3rd round that was a converted CB that had impressive measurables for Height/Weight/Speed.

 

Reached for a QB in the 5th last year. Reached for an H-back in the 4th this year.

[Magnetic Curses]

i will remind you that some of you wanted to pick a middle linebacker in the first round.

[minnesotacubsfan]

i will remind you that some of you wanted to pick a middle linebacker in the first round.

 

Well, we kind off did

[Smack]

 

Please don't play the Kiper card. He's not the only one who had Massie on the top of the board. Not even remotely close.

 

He was the top rated player for like 80 picks, everyone was passing on him.

 

His value point fell right to where we picked. It was such an obvious pick for us it isn't even funny. It has nothing to do with Kiper.

 

His 'value point' to third party 'experts' and the media was the 2nd round. Someone else, Sulley I think, pointed out that Massie is more of what we already have. Middle of the road filler. Teams aren't going to be able to tee off on Jay with the upgraded offense and different scheme like they have the last few years. It's like hiding a below average goalie behind excellent defensemen.

 

Rodriguez is one more specialized tool to help take pressure off the o-line. Assuming he stops beating up coeds.

[Magnetic Curses]

Dickerson brought up a good point on Twitter. This is an entirely different type of draft than what we've had with Angelo. We took a 3-4 DE, instead of a prototype. We traded up for a WR, which was unheard of, and we took a character risk guy in the 4th. It's definitely a different take. Hell, it may be worse, for all we know. But, it's different at least. As much as I've disagreed with some of these picks, I'm still excited as hell to watch it play out.

 

Are you sure it's that much different?

 

Last year, 2nd round, Marvin Austin goes off the board. Bears trade up 9 spots to take Stephen Paea because he's the next best DT on the board in their opinion and they don't want to miss out on him.

 

This year, 2nd round, Stephen Hill goes off the board. Bears trade up 5 spots to take Alshon Jeffery because he's the next best WR on the board in their opinion and they don't want to miss out on him.

 

Last year, take a Pac-10/12 safety in the 3rd round that was a converted CB that had impressive measurables for Height/Weight/Speed.

This year, take a Pac-10/12 safety in the 3rd round that was a converted CB that had impressive measurables for Height/Weight/Speed.

 

Reached for a QB in the 5th last year. Reached for an H-back in the 4th this year.

 

i was as big of a critic of paea as anyone, he finished the season very well and will likely be a starter going forward. stephen hill is not as good as jeffery, nowhere close. think dhb.

 

conte is a starter and wright is a starter, i believe that hardin will be a starter at cb at some point, rather than fs.

[davell]

I think it's different because Angelo wouldn't have moved up for a WR and I doubt that he would have drafted a niche type receiver like Rodriguez either. Angelo stuck with what he knew: Defense. And wasn't special at that either. My gut tells me I'll give our draft a C grade, maybe even a C-. But I definitely think it's different than an Angelo draft.

[Soul]

 

Please don't play the Kiper card. He's not the only one who had Massie on the top of the board. Not even remotely close.

 

He was the top rated player for like 80 picks, everyone was passing on him.

 

His value point fell right to where we picked. It was such an obvious pick for us it isn't even funny. It has nothing to do with Kiper.

 

His 'value point' to third party 'experts' and the media was the 2nd round. Someone else, Sulley I think, pointed out that Massie is more of what we already have. Middle of the road filler. Teams aren't going to be able to tee off on Jay with the upgraded offense and different scheme like they have the last few years. It's like hiding a below average goalie behind excellent defensemen.

 

Rodriguez is one more specialized tool to help take pressure off the o-line. Assuming he stops beating up coeds.

 

Well I hope this new scheme thing does it. Because if it doesn't we're going to be sad puppies when Jay isn't there and another season falls apart.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Chris conte never ran a 4.4 40

 

Hardin feels like Lovies pick to go against megatron

[Magnetic Curses]

Chris conte never ran a 4.4 40

 

Hardin feels like Lovies pick to go against megatron

 

please, he prefers chocobot

[rawaction]

Chris conte never ran a 4.4 40

 

Hardin feels like Lovies pick to go against megatron

 

Hardin's not a CB. He wasn't even going to play there this year, if he hadn't missed the whole year.

[Magnetic Curses]

he's so crispetty-crunchetty

[Magnetic Curses]

Chris conte never ran a 4.4 40

 

Hardin feels like Lovies pick to go against megatron

 

Hardin's not a CB. He wasn't even going to play there this year, if he hadn't missed the whole year.

 

i'd like to see him at least tried there. he has sub-cb speed and he's bigger than tillman.

[rawaction]

Chris conte never ran a 4.4 40

 

Hardin feels like Lovies pick to go against megatron

 

Hardin's not a CB. He wasn't even going to play there this year, if he hadn't missed the whole year.

 

i'd like to see him at least tried there. he has sub-cb speed and he's bigger than tillman.

 

I don't know. Doesn't look like he can turn and run with WRs who have some twitch and/or great straight line speed. He still doesn't have Megatron/Chocobot speed, and he doesn't have Greg Jennings quickness.

[Banedon]

Brad Biggs

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Lot of questions why #Bears passed on Ole Miss OT Bobby Massie with 4th rd pick. So, I called scout I trust. What he said tells you why Bears and 31 other teams passed on Massie for 4 ½ rounds. Report from scout was Massie is “lazy” and he suggested there were other off-field issues that would create concern. Massie was durable performer in school and we’ll see if Cardinals got a solid pick at No. 112, one pick after Phil Emery drafted Evan Rodriguez. But know lots of teams passed on Massey.