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Aside from Philadelphia, every Eastern Conference team has had a major player on their team miss a game or leave a game due to injury. I don't know if that is common or not (I wouldn't think so) but it makes for some irritating playoffs. Edited by bcl412
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these guys on this men at work show have to know that it stands no chance, right?

 

Has TNT/TBS ever had a good original show? Seems like during both NBA and MLB playoffs each year, there is a show that they market to death and it never lasts very long.

 

Ten Items or Less was great.

 

Who what?

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The Pacers are a nice serviceable bunch, but once they get into the later games with a quality team, it's not really even basketball anymore.
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And to think, I actually held out hope for entertaining Heat/Pacers basketball tonight. buuuahhhh.
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And to think, I actually held out hope for entertaining Heat/Pacers basketball tonight. buuuahhhh.

 

Granger was paramount to the Pacers chances in this series. They badly needed his defense on LeBron and his ability to stretch the floor. It was probably the most well played game in the series until he left tonight. If he's hobbled I don't see how the Pacers have much of a shot in game 6. They have nobody else that can really guard LeBron or do much to stretch the floor offensively.

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Wow, so Miami should have two reserves suspended for next game. That was ridiculously unnecessary.

Dexter Pittman ain't care. Them bows can't throw themselves.

 

NBA can suspended Pittman for the rest of the playoffs. It won't matter to the Heat. Was that his first time playing this series? He should be suspended that long at least regardless because there's no place for that kind of crap. That was worse than Artest elbow to Harden's head IMO. 10 games min.

 

Haslem... I'm on the fence with. He mostly hit Hansbourgh in the arm although some did catch his face. I do believe he "tried" to play it off as if he was going to the ball, but it was horrible. I don't believe that he was "intentionally" trying to hurt Hansbourgh like Pittman did. It was a hard foul for payback, but a horrible way to go about it. Why not do it on Hibbert/Granger/George/West (their good guys) instead of freakin' Hansbourgh? Either way... they need to upgrade the foul to flagrant 2 and fine the crap out of him (double or triple of they usually give out) with no suspension or don't upgrade it to flagrant 2, but still fine the crap out of him and suspend him for game 6 and game 7 if Pacers win.

 

Is it me or this years playoffs is a lot more physical/crazier/thuggish/etc. than the past couple years? Seems like there's been a ton of technicals/flagrants/hard fouls.

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I'm concerned there might be a fight in game 6 if there is a rough foul. Stephenson is being tested for a concussion and might have a broken collarbone because of the hit Pittman put on him, West said a Heat player tried to take out his knee, and there is some speculation on whether Granger's injury was truly an accident or not (just based on the strange way LeBron moved under him and then stayed there while Danny was in the air). Add that to the two flagrant fouls and things could get really out of hand quickly.
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Aside from Philadelphia, every Eastern Conference team has had a major player on their team miss a game or leave a game due to injury. I don't know if that is common or not (I wouldn't think so) but it makes for some irritating playoffs.

 

Sorry I missed this post earlier, but this thought has occurred to me several times as well.

 

Each of the Eastern Conference teams' fan bases are thinking, "DAMN IF WE COULD ONLY HAVE STAYED HEALTHY!!!"

 

This is also the reason why you don't just give up on the next season before it even starts. You don't know that everyone else is going to be healthy all the way through...

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I'm concerned there might be a fight in game 6 if there is a rough foul. Stephenson is being tested for a concussion and might have a broken collarbone because of the hit Pittman put on him, West said a Heat player tried to take out his knee, and there is some speculation on whether Granger's injury was truly an accident or not (just based on the strange way LeBron moved under him and then stayed there while Danny was in the air). Add that to the two flagrant fouls and things could get really out of hand quickly.

 

I love how the announcers responded to Pittman's vicious attack as "protecting Lebron." Apparently Lebron needs protection from Lance Stephenson's bullying. Man, the Heat look really pathetic right now.

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I'm concerned there might be a fight in game 6 if there is a rough foul. Stephenson is being tested for a concussion and might have a broken collarbone because of the hit Pittman put on him, West said a Heat player tried to take out his knee, and there is some speculation on whether Granger's injury was truly an accident or not (just based on the strange way LeBron moved under him and then stayed there while Danny was in the air). Add that to the two flagrant fouls and things could get really out of hand quickly.

 

I love me some old school nba fights. I miss the mid to late 90s era bball

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Quick. Someone get Ron Artest back in a Pacers uniform before Game 6.

 

They need Ogie Ogilthorpe and Clarence 'Screaming Buffalo' Swamptown from Slapshot.

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these guys on this men at work show have to know that it stands no chance, right?

 

Has TNT/TBS ever had a good original show? Seems like during both NBA and MLB playoffs each year, there is a show that they market to death and it never lasts very long.

 

Ten Items or Less was great.

 

Ten items or less was tremendous.

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Danny Granger went from an underappreciated budding star player 3 years ago to a swiftly declining inefficient volume scorer with terrible peripherals for a guy who plays 35 minutes and gets up 17 a night. At this point I think Hibbert and Paul George are more valuable pacers than Granger. He has really fallen off as the team got better.

 

Lebron is obviously abusing him in this series, which is not totally to Grangers discredit because Lebron is having an all time great season and the way hes able to get the playoff whistle is pretty unstopable. However, Granger is acting like a punk and its kinda pathetic. Getting in guys faces constantly like your gonna fight is dumb. These guys are not going to fight out there period. The posturing is pathetic when you are getting outplayed.

 

The Dex Pittman hit was dumb as well. Scrub trying to get in on the fun. They should suspend him. The Haslem foul was not suspension worthy at all. He fouled his arm. I respect Hansborough for not overselling that foul.

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While I agree that Granger should probably avoid getting in their faces (basically because it probably woke Wade up a bit and he has been awesome since it happened), I don't really blame him. He is doing it after Lebron tries to connect with a 2nd or 3rd elbow of the series. I like how before yesterday's game, all the talk was from Wade and Lebron saying how Granger shouldn't try to get in their face. Yes, Granger should know the rules when you play the Heat. They get to slam through players going in for a layup like they are playing linebacker. They get to try to elbow you in the face. They get to retaliate violently when you commit a hard foul. And you just have to take it. You can't stand up for yourself.

 

Oh, but when someone on the Pacers makes a choking gesture that doesn't affect anyone on the Heat at all, they get to send Juwan Howard over to your locker room to get in your face. Oh, and Wade gets to get in the face of his own coach when his coach tells him something he doesn't want to hear. And if you foul one of their players fairly hard, they get to complain about it and send goons in to really hit your players. Then after the game, they make the conversation about how bad the first foul was, when in actuality, it wasn't that bad. I think Wade made a comment about how Hansbrough went for his head and not the ball... no, he actually did hit the ball for most of the act. He just followed through and hit your head. Flagrant, fine. It was given a flagrant. The Heat Players were the ones that didn't go for the ball.

 

I am so tired of the Heat. I have never hated a sports team as much as that team. I like how out of the 4 really hard fouls (wade on collison, Tyler H on Wade, Haslems and Pittmans) the pacers players either immediately got up and walked away or didn't go down at all. But when Wade got hit in the face, he first lands on his feet, but then drops to the round and lays there to sell it.

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A guy Lebron's size, strength, body control and athleticism can land an elbow at point blank range. Lebron's little elbow flails werent much at all and certainly not worth the fugazi act that granger has been trying to sell.

 

The pacers pulled this little brother act against us in the first round last year and it was pathetic then and it still is now. And man, we are really overreacting to 4 hard fouls in 5 games where nobody was remotely harmed (unless born ready is hurt).

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A guy Lebron's size, strength, body control and athleticism can land an elbow at point blank range. Lebron's little elbow flails werent much at all and certainly not worth the fugazi act that granger has been trying to sell.

 

The pacers pulled this little brother act against us in the first round last year and it was pathetic then and it still is now. And man, we are really overreacting to 4 hard fouls in 5 games where nobody was remotely harmed (unless born ready is hurt).

 

How much do you love the Heat?

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A guy Lebron's size, strength, body control and athleticism can land an elbow at point blank range. Lebron's little elbow flails werent much at all and certainly not worth the fugazi act that granger has been trying to sell.

 

The pacers pulled this little brother act against us in the first round last year and it was pathetic then and it still is now. And man, we are really overreacting to 4 hard fouls in 5 games where nobody was remotely harmed (unless born ready is hurt).

The one where Granger kinda hit his headband off I think Lebron was clearly trying to hit him

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A guy Lebron's size, strength, body control and athleticism can land an elbow at point blank range. Lebron's little elbow flails werent much at all and certainly not worth the fugazi act that granger has been trying to sell.

 

The pacers pulled this little brother act against us in the first round last year and it was pathetic then and it still is now. And man, we are really overreacting to 4 hard fouls in 5 games where nobody was remotely harmed (unless born ready is hurt).

 

I agree that Lebron could land one if he really wanted, but what is he doing with his arm if he isn't trying to get him a bit with the elbow. I can see reacting to it when it happens a couple of times. I also know the pacers are annoying in their own right, but I at least respect their tough guy act more than the Heat.

 

It is amazing how flagrant fouls are viewed now compared to the 80's and 90's. I was watching Game 7 of the Knicks-Bulls series from 1992 (I think it was that game) a couple of weeks ago on youtube. First of all, it was AMAZING how loud the crowd used to be... but I remember seeing a drive from pippen where he was clobbered. Nothing was called. On a spectrum of No Foul to Flagrant, it was clearly closer to the flagrant end and yet nothing was even called.

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How much do you love the Heat?

 

I dont root for the Heat normally. I would like to see them get to the finals and match up with either SA or OKC or id like a BOS v SA final. The Heat are obviously the most compelling team in the league and Lebron and Wade are clearly among the most talented and exciting to have ever played the game, so I like both those players but dont really root for any teams outside of the bulls.

 

I will however pull for the spurs to win the championship from here on out to solidify the the Big Fundemental as the best career since jordan.

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