Levine - Aramis signs with Milwaukee for 3 years

[Guest]

RIP AramisFan and Rammy Fanny

 

Still waiting for Tim to change it to StarlinFan. I like FielderFan though :-k

 

I'm kinda hoping you change your name to FielderFan, also.

[USSoccer]

Maybe Ramirez didn't want to be a Cub anymore

 

Probably not, in part because our douchebag color commentator was allowed to launch on him constantly and no one from the front office bothered to call him out on it.

[bcl412]

RIP AramisFan and Rammy Fanny

 

Still waiting for Tim to change it to StarlinFan. I like FielderFan though :-k

 

I'm kinda hoping you change your name to FielderFan, also.

 

He could have it done and at worst it would just mean that he's a fan of guys who play good defense.

[davell]

If we're going to have FielderFan, I think it's only fair to have FielderFanny as well.

[treebird]

Maybe Ramirez didn't want to be a Cub anymore

 

Probably not, in part because our douchebag color commentator was allowed to launch on him constantly and no one from the front office bothered to call him out on it.

 

and also in part because the first thing our new gm did was pass on his option [EDIT i'm an idiot, ignore that part. we picked up the option and offered arb knowing aramis would choose free agency] and, at least to all outward appearances, make no effort whatsoever to even talk to him about coming back. it's certainly possible that we considered bringing aramis back and it never leaked and his agent was too lazy to mention it an effort to up his value, but it looks more like we weren't interested in aramis at any price. and at this price, i think that was a mistake.

 

if hendry were here, we'd all be talking about how he was infatuated with stewart and stupidly wanted to trust his scouts and find a diamond in the rough instead of just spending a very reasonable sum of money on a player who has actually had good and great seasons. but i suppose such apocrypha are only to used to describe the inner workings of front offices we don't have cute nicknames for.

Edited December 14, 2011 by treebird

[CubColtPacer]

Maybe Ramirez didn't want to be a Cub anymore

 

Probably not, in part because our douchebag color commentator was allowed to launch on him constantly and no one from the front office bothered to call him out on it.

 

and also in part because the first thing our new gm did was pass on his option and, at least to all outward appearances, make no effort whatsoever to even talk to him about coming back. it's certainly possible that we considered bringing aramis back and it never leaked and his agent was too lazy to mention it an effort to up his value, but it looks more like we weren't interested in aramis at any price. and at this price, i think that was a mistake.

 

if hendry were here, we'd all be talking about how he was infatuated with stewart and stupidly wanted to trust his scouts and find a diamond in the rough instead of just spending a very reasonable sum of money on a player who has actually had good and great seasons. but i suppose such apocrypha are only to used to describe the inner workings of front offices we don't have cute nicknames for.

 

The first thing the Cubs did was pick up his option. Aramis was the one who declined his half.

[Guest]

Maybe Ramirez didn't want to be a Cub anymore

 

Probably not, in part because our douchebag color commentator was allowed to launch on him constantly and no one from the front office bothered to call him out on it.

 

and also in part because the first thing our new gm did was pass on his option and, at least to all outward appearances, make no effort whatsoever to even talk to him about coming back. it's certainly possible that we considered bringing aramis back and it never leaked and his agent was too lazy to mention it an effort to up his value, but it looks more like we weren't interested in aramis at any price. and at this price, i think that was a mistake.

 

if hendry were here, we'd all be talking about how he was infatuated with stewart and stupidly wanted to trust his scouts and find a diamond in the rough instead of just spending a very reasonable sum of money on a player who has actually had good and great seasons. but i suppose such apocrypha are only to used to describe the inner workings of front offices we don't have cute nicknames for.

The team exercised it's half of the option. Aramis turned it down. We offered arbitration, he went elsewhere.

[Guest]

Maybe Ramirez didn't want to be a Cub anymore

 

Probably not, in part because our douchebag color commentator was allowed to launch on him constantly and no one from the front office bothered to call him out on it.

and also in part because the first thing our new gm did was pass on his option and, at least to all outward appearances, make no effort whatsoever to even talk to him about coming back. it's certainly possible that we considered bringing aramis back and it never leaked and his agent was too lazy to mention it an effort to up his value, but it looks more like we weren't interested in aramis at any price. and at this price, i think that was a mistake.

 

if hendry were here, we'd all be talking about how he was infatuated with stewart and stupidly wanted to trust his scouts and find a diamond in the rough instead of just spending a very reasonable sum of money on a player who has actually had good and great seasons. but i suppose such apocrypha are only to used to describe the inner workings of front offices we don't have cute nicknames for.

 

uh, that's not true.

[bukie]

Hey, let's not let facts get in the way of trying to point out everybody else's hypocrisy.

[treebird]

dammit, that's right. either way, everything else stands.

[Guest]

And Aramis isn't likely to live up to that contract.

[bukie]

Or, you know, it could be that the Cubs were interested in trying to bring him back for a one year deal, and Ramirez didn't want anything less than 3 years. Or Ramirez hates cute nicknames for his front office.

[El Duderino]

the cubs may have picked up their half of the option, but was it ever realistic that Aramis would pick up his half?

[bukie]

the cubs may have picked up their half of the option, but was it ever realistic that Aramis would pick up his half?

Ramirez thought he could do better than 1 year and 16 million in free agency. He got 2/20 with an option for 3/32, so I guess he was right?

[CubColtPacer]

Hey, let's not let facts get in the way of trying to point out everybody else's hypocrisy.

 

To be fair, I'm not sure the Cubs wanted him to pick up his option. They could have easily just been capitalizing on the fact that they knew he wanted a multi-year deal. By making Aramis decline both his option and arbitration, they saved 2 million and picked up a draft pick.

[bukie]

Hey, let's not let facts get in the way of trying to point out everybody else's hypocrisy.

 

To be fair, I'm not sure the Cubs wanted him to pick up his option. They could have easily just been capitalizing on the fact that they knew he wanted a multi-year deal. By making Aramis decline both his option and arbitration, they saved 2 million and picked up a draft pick.

Which is one thing the prior regime failed to do repeatedly with outgoing free agents.

[Guest]

dammit, that's right. either way, everything else stands.

I was hesitant to give Aramis his last contract because I thought he was the type of player that would decline badly. I'll stand by that going into this contract.

 

As for Stewart, he certainly not my dream guy manning 3B for the Cubs. But he's a much better gamble than Flaherty. He also shouldn't stand in the way of us making a deal for someone else should one appear in the future.

[Guest]

the cubs may have picked up their half of the option, but was it ever realistic that Aramis would pick up his half?

Ramirez thought he could do better than 1 year and 16 million in free agency. He got 2/20 with an option for 3/32, so I guess he was right?

 

the mutual option is for a 4th year.

 

he got 3 for 32 with a mutual option for a 4th year that doesn't appear to be disclosed, but if it's declined by the team he gets an additional $4M

[Guest]

the cubs may have picked up their half of the option, but was it ever realistic that Aramis would pick up his half?

Ramirez thought he could do better than 1 year and 16 million in free agency. He got 2/20 with an option for 3/32, so I guess he was right?

 

the mutual option is for a 4th year.

 

he got 3 for 32 with a mutual option for a 4th year that doesn't appear to be disclosed, but if it's declined by the team he gets an additional $4M

 

It's probably incentive driven, like a certain number of games played in the last two years of the deal.

[bukie]

the cubs may have picked up their half of the option, but was it ever realistic that Aramis would pick up his half?

Ramirez thought he could do better than 1 year and 16 million in free agency. He got 2/20 with an option for 3/32, so I guess he was right?

 

the mutual option is for a 4th year.

 

he got 3 for 32 with a mutual option for a 4th year that doesn't appear to be disclosed, but if it's declined by the team he gets an additional $4M

Ahh, well then it's not quite as ridiculously cheap as I thought it was.

[Guest]

the cubs may have picked up their half of the option, but was it ever realistic that Aramis would pick up his half?

Ramirez thought he could do better than 1 year and 16 million in free agency. He got 2/20 with an option for 3/32, so I guess he was right?

 

the mutual option is for a 4th year.

 

he got 3 for 32 with a mutual option for a 4th year that doesn't appear to be disclosed, but if it's declined by the team he gets an additional $4M

 

It's probably incentive driven, like a certain number of games played in the last two years of the deal.

 

Don't see anything like that being reported... I'd assume it's set up just like the option he had here (which also had a $4M buyout, IIRC).

[CubColtPacer]

the cubs may have picked up their half of the option, but was it ever realistic that Aramis would pick up his half?

Ramirez thought he could do better than 1 year and 16 million in free agency. He got 2/20 with an option for 3/32, so I guess he was right?

 

the mutual option is for a 4th year.

 

he got 3 for 32 with a mutual option for a 4th year that doesn't appear to be disclosed, but if it's declined by the team he gets an additional $4M

 

It's probably incentive driven, like a certain number of games played in the last two years of the deal.

 

It doesn't appear to be a vesting option. It's a mutual option. It's just that the amount of that option hasn't been disclosed (but it probably has to be at least 10 million and probably closer to 12).

[Tracer Bullet]

the cubs may have picked up their half of the option, but was it ever realistic that Aramis would pick up his half?

Ramirez thought he could do better than 1 year and 16 million in free agency. He got 2/20 with an option for 3/32, so I guess he was right?

 

the mutual option is for a 4th year.

 

he got 3 for 32 with a mutual option for a 4th year that doesn't appear to be disclosed, but if it's declined by the team he gets an additional $4M

 

It's 3/36 bc that $4m is guaranteed.

[Little Slide Rooter]

RIP AramisFan and Rammy Fanny

 

Still waiting for Tim to change it to StarlinFan. I like FielderFan though :-k

 

I'm kinda hoping you change your name to FielderFan, also.

 

Hey, we still have a resident Brewers fan called El Caballo despite the fact that Carlos Lee hast been a Brewer in over 5 years and I'm pretty sure we still have a Prior based screen name or 2.

[Guest]

the cubs may have picked up their half of the option, but was it ever realistic that Aramis would pick up his half?

Ramirez thought he could do better than 1 year and 16 million in free agency. He got 2/20 with an option for 3/32, so I guess he was right?

 

the mutual option is for a 4th year.

 

he got 3 for 32 with a mutual option for a 4th year that doesn't appear to be disclosed, but if it's declined by the team he gets an additional $4M

 

It's 3/36 bc that $4m is guaranteed.

 

What if the Brewers pick up the option but he declines it?