College Football - Week 9 (Oct. 29th)

[tadowdaddy]

lol, "you can't beat KSU in athletics, except for these carefully omitted portions where you did"

 

never change tadowdaddy

 

 

Wow, you finished ahead of us in football a few years since 2004, quite a feat considering the 15 years prior you never did. You're the mighty Missouri, so good that you could take your ball and play in the SEC, and we're lowly KSU. It's funny how you jokers look at things. If you can't finish above the lowly KSU, how the hell do you expect to even compete in the SEC?

[Guest]

Yep, Mizzou wants to go to the SEC because they think they're too good for the Big 12. You've cracked the code.

 

And to clarify, we're ignoring the last 7 years or so in football, but that's what counts in basketball? I want to make sure my arbitrary timeframes are correct.

 

I would not have guessed that of all the school fanbases, that K-State would be the ones that went into raging lunatic mode over Mizzou leaving the conference.

[Tracer Bullet]

ND without both starting DEs against Navy. Good thing experience on the DL is unimportant.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Yep, Mizzou wants to go to the SEC because they think they're too good for the Big 12. You've cracked the code.

 

And to clarify, we're ignoring the last 7 years or so in football, but that's what counts in basketball? I want to make sure my arbitrary timeframes are correct.

 

I would not have guessed that of all the school fanbases, that K-State would be the ones that went into raging lunatic mode over Mizzou leaving the conference.

 

Why wouldn't they? Almost everyone else will have a home once that [expletive] breaks up.

[Guest]

ND without both starting DEs against Navy. Good thing experience on the DL is unimportant.

 

They'd just get their knees shredded by navy anyway. Protects their future.

[Tracer Bullet]

Thankfully none of the cheap shots from AF ended any seasons. If Navy can take out one of the freshman DEs, ND is really screwed the rest of the way.

[Formerly Snayke]

You're the mighty Missouri, so good that you could take your ball and play in the SEC, and we're lowly KSU. It's funny how you jokers look at things. If you can't finish above the lowly KSU, how the hell do you expect to even compete in the SEC?

 

I don't understand what you're getting so upset about. You've said yourself that only when Snyder left and before Huggins that Missouri athletics was a joke compared to the mighty Kansas State, so shouldn't you be happy that they are leaving? All Missouri does is drag the Big 12 down, so getting rid of the dead weight should thrill you.

[da bears]

Yep, Mizzou wants to go to the SEC because they think they're too good for the Big 12. You've cracked the code.

 

And to clarify, we're ignoring the last 7 years or so in football, but that's what counts in basketball? I want to make sure my arbitrary timeframes are correct.

 

I would not have guessed that of all the school fanbases, that K-State would be the ones that went into raging lunatic mode over Mizzou leaving the conference.

yeah this has been very odd. out of all the schools, the hatred from ksu has been astounding. i think a big portion is the guy kevin keitzman from kc radio. the mizzou boards have been quoting him non-stop on his propoganda against mizzou. kstate fans, much more than anyone, are taking this personally. its very odd.

[Formerly Snayke]

Yep, Mizzou wants to go to the SEC because they think they're too good for the Big 12. You've cracked the code.

 

And to clarify, we're ignoring the last 7 years or so in football, but that's what counts in basketball? I want to make sure my arbitrary timeframes are correct.

 

I would not have guessed that of all the school fanbases, that K-State would be the ones that went into raging lunatic mode over Mizzou leaving the conference.

yeah this has been very odd. out of all the schools, the hatred from ksu has been astounding. i think a big portion is the guy kevin keitzman from kc radio. the mizzou boards have been quoting him non-stop on his propoganda against mizzou. kstate fans, much more than anyone, are taking this personally. its very odd.

 

If you can stomach it, wade through the comments section on Bring on the Cats.

[snoodmonger]

Yep, Mizzou wants to go to the SEC because they think they're too good for the Big 12. You've cracked the code.

 

And to clarify, we're ignoring the last 7 years or so in football, but that's what counts in basketball? I want to make sure my arbitrary timeframes are correct.

 

I would not have guessed that of all the school fanbases, that K-State would be the ones that went into raging lunatic mode over Mizzou leaving the conference.

yeah this has been very odd. out of all the schools, the hatred from ksu has been astounding. i think a big portion is the guy kevin keitzman from kc radio. the mizzou boards have been quoting him non-stop on his propoganda against mizzou. kstate fans, much more than anyone, are taking this personally. its very odd.

 

Keitzman is like KSU Jesus. Anything he says, they'll latch on to.

 

From a PR position, though, MU hasn't handled this thing very well.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Yep, Mizzou wants to go to the SEC because they think they're too good for the Big 12. You've cracked the code.

 

And to clarify, we're ignoring the last 7 years or so in football, but that's what counts in basketball? I want to make sure my arbitrary timeframes are correct.

 

I would not have guessed that of all the school fanbases, that K-State would be the ones that went into raging lunatic mode over Mizzou leaving the conference.

yeah this has been very odd. out of all the schools, the hatred from ksu has been astounding. i think a big portion is the guy kevin keitzman from kc radio. the mizzou boards have been quoting him non-stop on his propoganda against mizzou. kstate fans, much more than anyone, are taking this personally. its very odd.

 

Keitzman is like KSU Jesus. Anything he says, they'll latch on to.

 

From a PR position, though, MU hasn't handled this thing very well.

 

In what way?

[snoodmonger]

Yep, Mizzou wants to go to the SEC because they think they're too good for the Big 12. You've cracked the code.

 

And to clarify, we're ignoring the last 7 years or so in football, but that's what counts in basketball? I want to make sure my arbitrary timeframes are correct.

 

I would not have guessed that of all the school fanbases, that K-State would be the ones that went into raging lunatic mode over Mizzou leaving the conference.

yeah this has been very odd. out of all the schools, the hatred from ksu has been astounding. i think a big portion is the guy kevin keitzman from kc radio. the mizzou boards have been quoting him non-stop on his propoganda against mizzou. kstate fans, much more than anyone, are taking this personally. its very odd.

 

Keitzman is like KSU Jesus. Anything he says, they'll latch on to.

 

From a PR position, though, MU hasn't handled this thing very well.

 

In what way?

 

 

Stuff that leaps to mind:

 

1. Deaton being the chair of the Big 12 while not being the committed to the conference just looks bad.

2. On the day the Big 12 was "saved," Deaton (The chair of the Big 12) was suddenly very wishy-washy in the resulting press conference as to his school's commitment to the conference.

3. After a BoC meeting regarding conf. realignment, the BoC snuck out the back door instead of addressing the assembled press.

4. A Mizzou wonk said, off-the-record, they preferred the B1G, but the SEC is what's left.

5. Missouri has continued to waffle, which is somewhat understandable considering the legal implications and the fact they have to wait for SEC votes, but it has seemed like they're stringing the Big 12 along, who can't move on replacing them until they know if they have to replace them.

6. Missouri trying to pin the hit KC economy will take if they leave on KU.

7. Mizzou saying "they wish the Big 12 well" while also saying they have not yet made a decision on whether to leave.

[Guest]

1. Deaton resigned that position the day they announced they were exploring options. In a conference where every single team has been linked to another conference over the last 12 months, I don't think it's hypocritical to wait until you're formally "looking around" to make that decision. Otherwise no one would be able to hold that position.

2. Deaton was a huge proponent of staying in the Big 12 until the recent months. I think the quotations around "saved" are appropriate, because that agreement was probably the last straw in realizing that there just isn't going to be unity among the conference with how UT and OU(and NU and aTm before them) operate.

3. That was after Day 1 of 2 for BoC meetings. I guess they could have come out and said no comment, but I don't think there was any planned press availability when that happened.

4. Unnamed sources have said so many things and things that say the opposite of the original things that I have hard time holding a university to the standard of someone who is afraid of their name/title being published.

5. I'm 99% sure Mizzou's decision has been made(read: they aren't waffling), and the wait is simply dotting i's and crossing t's until all the legalities are worked out with how/when they withdraw, exit fees, etc. I'm sure the Big 12 has been trying to keep them or at the very least making it hard for them to leave.

6. I'm not sure what you're referencing. Is it the idea that if the rivalry dies when Mizzou still wants to play it, then it's KU's fault and KC's loss? I think the impact to KC has been overstated anyway, but I don't recall any stories(and especially any comments from Mizzou) trying to blame KU for impact to KC.

7. See #5

[Butterscup1679666578]

TT hit it on the head pretty well.

 

As for 3...the BoC told the media beforehand there wouldn't be any sort of comment after their meeting that night. Sneaking out the back door is whatever, but the media was informed that there wouldn't be anything discussed after the meeting.

 

I know I'm biased (in more ways that one re: your original comment), but I think Deaton has done a fine job this time around. He's made it pretty clear that the only thing holding this up is legal issues. I expect it to be done shortly.

[snoodmonger]

1. Deaton resigned that position the day they announced they were exploring options. In a conference where every single team has been linked to another conference over the last 12 months, I don't think it's hypocritical to wait until you're formally "looking around" to make that decision. Otherwise no one would be able to hold that position.

2. Deaton was a huge proponent of staying in the Big 12 until the recent months. I think the quotations around "saved" are appropriate, because that agreement was probably the last straw in realizing that there just isn't going to be unity among the conference with how UT and OU(and NU and aTm before them) operate.

3. That was after Day 1 of 2 for BoC meetings. I guess they could have come out and said no comment, but I don't think there was any planned press availability when that happened.

4. Unnamed sources have said so many things and things that say the opposite of the original things that I have hard time holding a university to the standard of someone who is afraid of their name/title being published.

5. I'm 99% sure Mizzou's decision has been made(read: they aren't waffling), and the wait is simply dotting i's and crossing t's until all the legalities are worked out with how/when they withdraw, exit fees, etc. I'm sure the Big 12 has been trying to keep them or at the very least making it hard for them to leave.

6. I'm not sure what you're referencing. Is it the idea that if the rivalry dies when Mizzou still wants to play it, then it's KU's fault and KC's loss? I think the impact to KC has been overstated anyway, but I don't recall any stories(and especially any comments) trying to blame KU for impact to KC.

7. See #5

 

Remember, we're talking about PR. In many of the cases I listed, Missouri didn't necessarily do anything wrong. They've just said the wrong thing (wish them well/haven't decided to leave) or not said enough (the back door sneak out. A meaningless no comment statement looks better than "dodging" the media.)

 

I've got no real beef with Missouri exploring other options. They should. I think how they've handled it has made them easy targets for negative press.

[Butterscup1679666578]

So it has zero to do with the PR and everything to do with a "source" being a moron and Deaton misspeaking (which he admitted to regretting).

[snoodmonger]

So it has zero to do with the PR and everything to do with a "source" being a moron and Deaton misspeaking (which he admitted to regretting).

 

some of the ways your AD has handled it have resulted in bad PR imo. That's all I'm saying. Not that your PR campaign was bad. I have no idea what your school is doing on a the PR front.

[OleMissCub]

Case Keenum was 24 of 37 for 534 yards and 9 TD's tonight.

[SouthSideRyan]

Yep, Mizzou wants to go to the SEC because they think they're too good for the Big 12. You've cracked the code.

 

And to clarify, we're ignoring the last 7 years or so in football, but that's what counts in basketball? I want to make sure my arbitrary timeframes are correct.

 

I would not have guessed that of all the school fanbases, that K-State would be the ones that went into raging lunatic mode over Mizzou leaving the conference.

yeah this has been very odd. out of all the schools, the hatred from ksu has been astounding. i think a big portion is the guy kevin keitzman from kc radio. the mizzou boards have been quoting him non-stop on his propoganda against mizzou. kstate fans, much more than anyone, are taking this personally. its very odd.

 

Keitzman is like KSU Jesus. Anything he says, they'll latch on to.

 

From a PR position, though, MU hasn't handled this thing very well.

 

In what way?

 

 

Stuff that leaps to mind:

 

1. Deaton being the chair of the Big 12 while not being the committed to the conference just looks bad.

2. On the day the Big 12 was "saved," Deaton (The chair of the Big 12) was suddenly very wishy-washy in the resulting press conference as to his school's commitment to the conference.

3. After a BoC meeting regarding conf. realignment, the BoC snuck out the back door instead of addressing the assembled press.

4. A Mizzou wonk said, off-the-record, they preferred the B1G, but the SEC is what's left.

5. Missouri has continued to waffle, which is somewhat understandable considering the legal implications and the fact they have to wait for SEC votes, but it has seemed like they're stringing the Big 12 along, who can't move on replacing them until they know if they have to replace them.

6. Missouri trying to pin the hit KC economy will take if they leave on KU.

7. Mizzou saying "they wish the Big 12 well" while also saying they have not yet made a decision on whether to leave.

 

8. Educated Mizzou

[snoodmonger]

nm Edited October 28, 2011 by snoodmonger

[TruffleShuffle]

Case Keenum was 24 of 37 for 534 yards and 9 TD's tonight.

 

jeez. i guess once you get close to the record, might as well leave him in and run up the score.

 

some WR had 318 yards and 5 TDs. that is a monster fantasy college football game.

[tadowdaddy]

Yep, Mizzou wants to go to the SEC because they think they're too good for the Big 12. You've cracked the code.

 

And to clarify, we're ignoring the last 7 years or so in football, but that's what counts in basketball? I want to make sure my arbitrary timeframes are correct.

 

I would not have guessed that of all the school fanbases, that K-State would be the ones that went into raging lunatic mode over Mizzou leaving the conference.

yeah this has been very odd. out of all the schools, the hatred from ksu has been astounding. i think a big portion is the guy kevin keitzman from kc radio. the mizzou boards have been quoting him non-stop on his propoganda against mizzou. kstate fans, much more than anyone, are taking this personally. its very odd.

 

Keitzman is like KSU Jesus. Anything he says, they'll latch on to.

 

From a PR position, though, MU hasn't handled this thing very well.

 

In what way?

 

 

For the record, KK is a douche, I live in Michigan and wouldn't listen to his ass if I still lived in KC. Actually, check out gopowercat.com. Most KSU fans despise him. He'll say whatever he feels necessary to get ratings, including talking negatively about KSU and pimping KU and Mizzou. I despise Mizzou because they started every bit of this re-alignment stuff last year with their Big 10 push. They didn't get in, and actually the Big 10 wanted nothing to do with them, and then acted like they never wanted to leave the Big 12. That in turn, started the CU and NU garbage. Mizzou was the first school to start the entire conference re-alignment process. Add on that Deaton acted like he was "all in" and the way they've handled this current mess as snoodmonger has stated, and it adds more fuel to the fire.

 

Additionally, I get sick of the [expletive] talk by all the Mizzou fans on this board. I'm outnumbered, which is a given. But the majority of you think Mizzou is an academic giant, an athletic giant, and a superior school to other "smaller" Big 12 schools. While you may be an AAU college, your lack of a a final 4 (never been while KSU has been to 4, you have the 2nd most NCAA appearances w/o a final 4) and lack of a BCS appearance (We've been to the Fiesta 2x, winning it once) makes my point. You are mediocre... that's all. Get off your high horse. Now that you're going to the SEC, your odds of going to either are worse. Enjoy..

[Butterscup1679666578]

I definitely think all of those things.

[NewUserName]

I want to say something about 2 pages of KSU/Mizzou trash talking...but then I realize that I am a MSU fan and no one cares about them either.

[Guest]

I definitely think all of those things.

 

Yeah, but you never would have written those things down if you thought that K-State fans could read.