Harrelson, Stone rip “Moneyball” book and movie

[J.R.]

As you might have guessed ... they claim to have never seen the film nor read the book.

 

Harrleson on Beane and his approach: “It’s bull—-, and he’s proven it’s bull—- by the moves that he’s made and the deals he’s made, and the games that he’s lost. How long has he been there?”

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/26/hawk-harrelson-steve-stone-rip-moneyball-book-and-movie-admit-theyve-seen-nor-read-neither/

[MrCub14]

Hawk was the worst GM in the history of baseball. He has no credibility on this subject.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Hawk Harrelson?

 

Not thread worthy.

[SouthSideRyan]

Steve Stone wanted to trade Aramis Ramirez for Cesar Izturis.

[bcl412]

Steve Stone was considered a genius by a lot of Cubs fans in the 90's. Once advanced analysation of the sport took place, people are starting to realize that people like Steve Stone aren't smart at all and I'm sure he's not happy about it because his ego is ridiculous.

 

Hawk is considered a moron by pretty much everyone (at least everyone I know and that includes more traditional fans.) so his opinions don't matter.

[TruffleShuffle]

and hawk harrelson DID let larussa and dombrowski leave, and traded bonilla for jose deleon. i guess it's easy to criticize a guy who's kept his small market team in contention most of the time... maybe it's been long enough that hawk forgot the year he spent running the white sox into the ground when he wasn't too busy playing golf.

[Cubswin11]

[mul21]

Ha! The first comment is gold!

[Careless]

Really, that clip solely validates that movie's existence.

[Formerly Snayke]

The hate Billy Beane generates because someone decided to write a book that wasn't even specifically about him is baffling. I get it if people don't think Beane is the greatest, but he's the only GM who apparently needs a World Series to validate his employment.

[SpongeWorthy]

I'm more interested in Woody and Oliver's take on the movie.

[NewUserName]

what I find amazing is that guys like Hawk and Stoney do not even realize that Moneyball is a business book about baseball, not a book about the "only" way to win at baseball. Of course a simple reading of said book or watching the movie with any kind of open mind someone would easily come to that conclusion.

[Guest]

what I find amazing is that guys like Hawk and Stoney do not even realize that Moneyball is a business book about baseball, not a book about the "only" way to win at baseball. Of course a simple reading of said book or watching the movie with any kind of open mind someone would easily come to that conclusion.

over/under on how many years it has been since Hawk read a book?

[Derwood]

what I find amazing is that guys like Hawk and Stoney do not even realize that Moneyball is a business book about baseball, not a book about the "only" way to win at baseball. Of course a simple reading of said book or watching the movie with any kind of open mind someone would easily come to that conclusion.

over/under on how many years it has been since Hawk read a book?

 

how old is he?

[Mark Priors Calves]

Harrelson's just pissed because Beane fired some of his old scouting buddies.

[BeerHere]

I saw Moneyball this weekend. It was actually a pretty good movie, I enjoyed it a lot and so did my wife. I'm obviously a big baseball fan but my wife is more of a passive fan so the fact that she liked it says something. The movie and the book are entirely different. Yes, the idea that Beane and DePotesta (?can't remember his name, they changed it in the movie and it has been a while since I read the book) changed scouting based on statistical analysis, is throughout the movie. Not a lot is said about Jeremy Brown, but Hatteberg was front-and-center. It is also about his relationship with his daughter, and how the life of a baseball GM is tough. What surprised me though was that Art Howe would lend his name to the character in the movie. He was made to look like a complete moron with no understanding at all about players and motivation. If I were Art Howe I would be pissed and never would have lent my name to the role.

[UMFan83]

I saw Moneyball this weekend. It was actually a pretty good movie, I enjoyed it a lot and so did my wife. I'm obviously a big baseball fan but my wife is more of a passive fan so the fact that she liked it says something. The movie and the book are entirely different. Yes, the idea that Beane and DePotesta (?can't remember his name, they changed it in the movie and it has been a while since I read the book) changed scouting based on statistical analysis, is throughout the movie. Not a lot is said about Jeremy Brown, but Hatteberg was front-and-center. It is also about his relationship with his daughter, and how the life of a baseball GM is tough. What surprised me though was that Art Howe would lend his name to the character in the movie. He was made to look like a complete moron with no understanding at all about players and motivation. If I were Art Howe I would be pissed and never would have lent my name to the role.

 

He was pretty pissed:

 

http://articles.sfgate.com/2011-09-28/sports/30211202_1_art-howe-movie-billy-beane

 

I understand why the director felt it necessary to make Howe another force going against Beane's 'radical' methods, but they could have found a way to do it without ruining his reputation. At least give the guy a redeeming moment at the end where he is won over by Beane.

 

IIRC the book didn't really portray him that well either.