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You guys must be getting ready for some tie breaking scenario that utilizes margin of victory because that's the only reason that call would even matter.
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You guys must be getting ready for some tie breaking scenario that utilizes margin of victory because that's the only reason that call would even matter.

Yeah, whoever heard of a team getting a field goal after recovering an onside kick with only a minute to get 25 yards? No, the Bears probably wouldn't have won, but your post is ridiculous.

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it wouldn't have been as big a deal to me if Hester wasn't illegally mauled by Woodson earlier. its just adds insult to injury really. Besides, there still would have been some time on the clock for an onside kick. For those of us older then 5, we can remember the Bears pulling off two victories in row that were that tight in regards to time left. To say it didnt matter isn't really true
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it wouldn't have been as big a deal to me if Hester wasn't illegally mauled by Woodson earlier. its just adds insult to injury really. Besides, there still would have been some time on the clock for an onside kick. For those of us older then 5, we can remember the Bears pulling off two victories in row that were that tight in regards to time left. To say it didnt matter isn't really true

 

Please prove that those two games exist.

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it wouldn't have been as big a deal to me if Hester wasn't illegally mauled by Woodson earlier. its just adds insult to injury really. Besides, there still would have been some time on the clock for an onside kick. For those of us older then 5, we can remember the Bears pulling off two victories in row that were that tight in regards to time left. To say it didnt matter isn't really true

 

Please prove that those two games exist.

 

Then came the two games that will live on in most Bear fans' memories forever. Against San Francisco on October 28th, Chicago trailed 28-9 deep into the third quarter, and had lost starting QB Jim Miller to a side injury. Now-backup Shane Matthews responded with two long TD drives, the last to rookie David Terrell that brought the Bears within 2-points, 31-29 with less than a minute remaining in the game. Anthony "A-Train" Thomas then barrelled in for the tying two-point conversion, and the crowd went nuts. The high-powered San Francisco offense received the ball first in overtime. On their very first play, big-time wide receiver Terrell Owens cowered from an approaching Brian Urlacher hit, Mike Brown intercepted the pass and romped 33 yards for the winning score in what is now the shortest OT game in NFL history. Chicago went crazy, figuring nothing could top this finish.

Wrong we were. The following week, an ineffective Shane Matthews-led offense trailed Cleveland 21-7 with less than one minute left in the game. Obnoxious Cleveland Brown fans ruled Soldier Field for the moment, as some Bear fans just hadn't learned from the week before and left early. With less than a minute left, Matthews hit Marty Booker with a TD to close the gap to 21-14. No chance, the Browns fans said. On the next play, Chicago recoved the onside kick. After several short passes moved the ball to the Cleveland 34, there was time for one final play. Right in front of the North endzone fans, Matthews heaved a pass toward the heavens, which seemingly in slow-motion fell into the outstreched hands of James Allen. Tie game, and the cheering Bear fans gave it back to the obnoxious Cleveland-ites. On the Browns' first possession of overtime, Bryan Robinson batted a third-down pass up in the air, Mike Brown performed deja-vu, and the Bears had pulled out the most improbable victory in a decade. The Bears were now 6-1 for the first time since 1991.

 

http://www.bearshistory.com/seasons/2001chicagobears.aspx

 

SF Game: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200110280chi.htm

 

CLev Game: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200111040chi.htm

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You guys must be getting ready for some tie breaking scenario that utilizes margin of victory because that's the only reason that call would even matter.

Yeah, whoever heard of a team getting a field goal after recovering an onside kick with only a minute to get 25 yards? No, the Bears probably wouldn't have won, but your post is ridiculous.

 

Because excessive bitching about a call that kept the Bears from having a .01 chance of winning the game isn't. Complain about the not PI call against Hester, that had more impact on the game than the punt return no call.

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it wouldn't have been as big a deal to me if Hester wasn't illegally mauled by Woodson earlier. its just adds insult to injury really. Besides, there still would have been some time on the clock for an onside kick. For those of us older then 5, we can remember the Bears pulling off two victories in row that were that tight in regards to time left. To say it didnt matter isn't really true

 

Please prove that those two games exist.

 

Seriously?

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It's not about winning or losing the game. Even with that PR TD, the Bears still would have been a longshot to win the game. But when you combine that with the clear PI on Woodson when the Bears were coming out of the endzone, and the PI on the 4th down play when Knox was hit on the elbow a split second before the ball got there...the Bears got screwed. Granted, they didn't play well enough to deserve to win, but those plays changed the game. The Woodson non-PI call, was probably done on purpose. He was beat and instead of allowing a 95 yard TD, he threw his body in front of Hester. That turned into a short field for the Packers and put the lead up to 17, and the game was essentially over there. Call that PI correctly and worst case scenario is Bears are down 10 with the Packers getting the ball back after a punt inside the 20. Instead, the defense takes the short field for the 4th time in a row since the start of the 2nd half.
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there were 51 seconds left when Knox scored, putting the Bears down by 3. That isn't impossible

 

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011092511/2011/REG3/packers@bears#menu=highlights&tab=analyze&analyze=playbyplay

 

Right but your asking for a recovered onside kick with receivers who have showed bad hands for a lot of the game, the offensive line to hold up(which they did most of the game but still) and for Cutler to throw accurate passes most of the game. I mean the Bears longest drive in the 2nd half was 6 plays. I just don't see how the Bears would have tied or won that game given what was taken place in the game. Too me it's just people complaining that the Bears didn't win by 3 instead of 10.

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there were 51 seconds left when Knox scored, putting the Bears down by 3. That isn't impossible

 

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011092511/2011/REG3/packers@bears#menu=highlights&tab=analyze&analyze=playbyplay

 

Right but your asking for a recovered onside kick with receivers who have showed bad hands for a lot of the game, the offensive line to hold up(which they did most of the game but still) and for Cutler to throw accurate passes most of the game. I mean the Bears longest play in the 2nd half was 6 plays. I just don't see how the Bears would have tied or won that game given what was taken place in the game. Too me it's just people complaining that the Bears didn't win by 3 instead of 10.

 

again: SHANE MATTHEWS. its been done.

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there were 51 seconds left when Knox scored, putting the Bears down by 3. That isn't impossible

 

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011092511/2011/REG3/packers@bears#menu=highlights&tab=analyze&analyze=playbyplay

 

Right but your asking for a recovered onside kick with receivers who have showed bad hands for a lot of the game, the offensive line to hold up(which they did most of the game but still) and for Cutler to throw accurate passes most of the game. I mean the Bears longest play in the 2nd half was 6 plays. I just don't see how the Bears would have tied or won that game given what was taken place in the game. Too me it's just people complaining that the Bears didn't win by 3 instead of 10.

 

again: SHANE MATTHEWS. its been done.

 

he's clearly not getting the point that anything can happen in the nfl...also, i imagine he would feel differently if the tables were turned and the packers were fucked on that call.

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there were 51 seconds left when Knox scored, putting the Bears down by 3. That isn't impossible

 

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011092511/2011/REG3/packers@bears#menu=highlights&tab=analyze&analyze=playbyplay

 

Right but your asking for a recovered onside kick with receivers who have showed bad hands for a lot of the game, the offensive line to hold up(which they did most of the game but still) and for Cutler to throw accurate passes most of the game. I mean the Bears longest play in the 2nd half was 6 plays. I just don't see how the Bears would have tied or won that game given what was taken place in the game. Too me it's just people complaining that the Bears didn't win by 3 instead of 10.

 

again: SHANE MATTHEWS. its been done.

 

he's clearly not getting the point that anything can happen in the nfl...also, i imagine he would feel differently if the tables were turned and the packers were [expletive] on that call.

 

Yep...that's it, because I'm clearly a Packers homer.

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there were 51 seconds left when Knox scored, putting the Bears down by 3. That isn't impossible

 

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011092511/2011/REG3/packers@bears#menu=highlights&tab=analyze&analyze=playbyplay

 

Right but your asking for a recovered onside kick with receivers who have showed bad hands for a lot of the game, the offensive line to hold up(which they did most of the game but still) and for Cutler to throw accurate passes most of the game. I mean the Bears longest drive in the 2nd half was 6 plays. I just don't see how the Bears would have tied or won that game given what was taken place in the game. Too me it's just people complaining that the Bears didn't win by 3 instead of 10.

 

Ridiculous argument. The officiating sucks, and not just the Bears games. There is horrible officiating happening all over the place. I saw the same arguments last week when Sproles stepped out of bounds at the 2. "They would have scored anyway, so what's the point of arguing". That's a pathetic stance to take.

 

The Bears played horribly and didn't deserve to win. Well guess what. Teams play badly all the time and still win. I'm not defending how badly they played.

 

1st and goal last week at the 2 instead of the Sproles touchdown could have resulted in a false start, moving the ball back. There could have been a goal line stand where NO goes for it on 4th down and doesn't get in. It happens in this game. I saw it happen to a team today. Throwing a flag for the sake of throwing a flag to preserve a victory doesn't sit well with me. When you are at the point of making up a number to defend your decision to throw the flag in the first place, maybe it's time to hang up your yellow hanky.

 

The Bears probably don't win either of those games regardless. However, ridiculous officiating has even less business in these games. And I don't care if the probability of winning is less than .0000000000001, these referees had no business taking away that chance from the Bears today.

 

I can't really cry too loudly about losing this game or last week's for that matter, since they didn't play well enough to deserve a victory. But, don't sit there and defend the horrible officiating. You just end up looking ridiculous.

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I....uh....never defended the officials, I just said that it wasn't that impactful but I guess that's more ridiculous than complaining that I lost that dollar I was going to use to buy that lottery ticket for a lottery that I probably wasn't going to win anyways.

 

I suppose though that I have bitched about calls before that weren't very impactful myself so I suppose I understand where you all are coming from.

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All-in-all, 1-2 isn't all that bad at this point. Bears had 1 great game, 1 terrible game, and 1 mediocre game. On paper, they still have 6 games that appear as close to gimmes as there are in the NFL (Carolina, Minnesota x 2, Seahawks, Broncos, Chiefs). After that, the Bears still have home games vs. Detroit, a Chargers team that beat the Chiefs and Vikings by a combined 10 points playing in San Diego, a neutral site game vs. Tampa, and a road game at a dysfunctional Eagles team after our bye week.

 

Be nice to start with 3 in a row in October and take whatever comes from Tampa and Philly. I'll take 4-3 after Week 7 with 2 home games followed by a stretch of 5 of the last 6 where the best team other than GB the Bears face is the Raiders. Problem is, even if the Bears can get to 10 wins, they probably have to take at least 3 of 5 vs. Philly, GB, Detroit and Tampa to even make the playoffs.

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I....uh....never defended the officials, I just said that it wasn't that impactful but I guess that's more ridiculous than complaining that I lost that dollar I was going to use to buy that lottery ticket for a lottery that I probably wasn't going to win anyways.

 

I suppose though that I have bitched about calls before that weren't very impactful myself so I suppose I understand where you all are coming from.

 

yea. an NFL game is JUST like a lottery ticket. they should just hand NE the trophy now, there's no point in playing the games.

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I....uh....never defended the officials, I just said that it wasn't that impactful but I guess that's more ridiculous than complaining that I lost that dollar I was going to use to buy that lottery ticket for a lottery that I probably wasn't going to win anyways.

 

I suppose though that I have bitched about calls before that weren't very impactful myself so I suppose I understand where you all are coming from.

 

yea. an NFL game is JUST like a lottery ticket. they should just hand NE the trophy now, there's no point in playing the games.

 

Never said that an NFL game was a lottery ticket. I said that winning a game in that situation, however, is.

 

What am I saying that is that far fetched?

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I....uh....never defended the officials, I just said that it wasn't that impactful but I guess that's more ridiculous than complaining that I lost that dollar I was going to use to buy that lottery ticket for a lottery that I probably wasn't going to win anyways.

 

I suppose though that I have bitched about calls before that weren't very impactful myself so I suppose I understand where you all are coming from.

 

yea. an NFL game is JUST like a lottery ticket. they should just hand NE the trophy now, there's no point in playing the games.

 

I think you might have missed the point, just a tad.

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Never said that an NFL game was a lottery ticket. I said that winning a game in that situation, however, is.

 

What am I saying that is that far fetched?

 

nothing...it's just that you're ignoring the fact that the bears would have had a chance to come back and tie the game with a successful recovery of an onside kick.

 

the lottery ticket thing makes sense to me...but the bears didn't get their chance to hit that lottery, when they should have had one.

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I....uh....never defended the officials, I just said that it wasn't that impactful but I guess that's more ridiculous than complaining that I lost that dollar I was going to use to buy that lottery ticket for a lottery that I probably wasn't going to win anyways.

 

I suppose though that I have bitched about calls before that weren't very impactful myself so I suppose I understand where you all are coming from.

 

yea. an NFL game is JUST like a lottery ticket. they should just hand NE the trophy now, there's no point in playing the games.

 

I think you might have missed the point, just a tad.

 

I got his point, but it is stupid to try and argue that the Bears had that opportunity when they didn't.

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There was an outside chance with that play, but it was really just the capper to a few other questionable calls through the game.

 

That said though, I'm not pretending we played well enough to win this game, especially offensively.

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