Bryan LaHair to the Bigs

[Guest]

Again, I really have no problem with Lahair on the bench, I see no harm in giving him a spot as a bench bat rather than pay for another Cliff Floyd. Worse that can happen is he sucks, and he's gone by June. I just can't imagine anyone wanting him as the starting 1B as a viable alternative to Fielder or Pujols.

 

Please, no more posts about LaHair. Let's just all agree he should be sent to a nice farm upstate and never heard from again once this season ends.

 

Man, you really hate the guy at a Jeff H level. Just out of curiosity, why? If he got a roster spot, he wouldn't really be taking it from an actual prospect, just someone like Colvin, Montanez, or a 38 year old journeyman. Remember, there was a time when we carried both Daryl Ward and Cliff Floyd. I believe Craig Monroe was on that same team for a little while. We can make room for a guy who might be a solid lefty off the bench.

 

Because he's a first baseman that isn't a good hitter. Because he turns THIRTY next year. Because it took him SIX years at AAA to start hitting. Because Colvin, Montanez, and a nameless journeyman are all better options for a future Cubs team. And because you've made 75 posts(actual number) mentioning his name in the last 40 days.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Man, you really hate the guy at a Jeff H level. Just out of curiosity, why? If he got a roster spot, he wouldn't really be taking it from an actual prospect, just someone like Colvin, Montanez, or a 38 year old journeyman. Remember, there was a time when we carried both Daryl Ward and Cliff Floyd. I believe Craig Monroe was on that same team for a little while. We can make room for a guy who might be a solid lefty off the bench.

 

How is LaHair a prospect but Colvin isnt? Id take Colvin easily over Shelley Duncan/Micah H 2.0, terrible year be damned.

 

read it again.

[Backtobanks]

Again, I really have no problem with Lahair on the bench, I see no harm in giving him a spot as a bench bat rather than pay for another Cliff Floyd. Worse that can happen is he sucks, and he's gone by June. I just can't imagine anyone wanting him as the starting 1B as a viable alternative to Fielder or Pujols.

 

Please, no more posts about LaHair. Let's just all agree he should be sent to a nice farm upstate and never heard from again once this season ends.

 

Man, you really hate the guy at a Jeff H level. Just out of curiosity, why? If he got a roster spot, he wouldn't really be taking it from an actual prospect, just someone like Colvin, Montanez, or a 38 year old journeyman. Remember, there was a time when we carried both Daryl Ward and Cliff Floyd. I believe Craig Monroe was on that same team for a little while. We can make room for a guy who might be a solid lefty off the bench.

 

Because he's a first baseman that isn't a good hitter. Because he turns THIRTY next year. Because it took him SIX years at AAA to start hitting. Because Colvin, Montanez, and a nameless journeyman are all better options for a future Cubs team. And because you've made 75 posts(actual number) mentioning his name in the last 40 days.

 

If he can learn to be a solid pinch hitter (without regular playing time), he might have a spot at the ML level. Obviously we need to see who is on the 2012 roster before determining whether he fits in with the Cubs.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

And because you've made 75 posts(actual number) mentioning his name in the last 40 days.

Outstanding.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Man, you really hate the guy at a Jeff H level. Just out of curiosity, why? If he got a roster spot, he wouldn't really be taking it from an actual prospect, just someone like Colvin, Montanez, or a 38 year old journeyman. Remember, there was a time when we carried both Daryl Ward and Cliff Floyd. I believe Craig Monroe was on that same team for a little while. We can make room for a guy who might be a solid lefty off the bench.

 

How is LaHair a prospect but Colvin isnt? Id take Colvin easily over Shelley Duncan/Micah H 2.0, terrible year be damned.

 

read it again.

 

I did and I still think you underrated Colvin with that comment. He's still a way better long term talent than LaHair despite a very garbage 2011.

[JonJayCutler]

Because he's a first baseman that isn't a good hitter. Because he turns THIRTY next year. Because it took him SIX years at AAA to start hitting.

 

He is still 28 and doesn't turn 30 until next season is over. Not being a good hitter (which isn't even entirely true) doesn't stop this team from carrying Koyie Hill, Jeff Baker, and Blake DeWitt all on one team. All those guys suck at defense too so that's not an excuse. Should LaHair start? Of course not, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with him on the bench next year. Bench players are rarely studs. Plus, any prospect should get regular ABs, not left to rot on the bench.

[jersey cubs fan]

Because he's a first baseman that isn't a good hitter. Because he turns THIRTY next year. Because it took him SIX years at AAA to start hitting.

 

He is still 28 and doesn't turn 30 until next season is over. Not being a good hitter (which isn't even entirely true) doesn't stop this team from carrying Koyie Hill, Jeff Baker, and Blake DeWitt all on one team. All those guys suck at defense too so that's not an excuse.

 

Lahair is a 1B. Those guys are versatile and/or play premium positions. And I don't think they all suck at defense either.

 

I don't have a problem with the concept of such a player on the bench. But it can't be at the expense of anybody else that matters.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Because he's a first baseman that isn't a good hitter. Because he turns THIRTY next year. Because it took him SIX years at AAA to start hitting.

 

He is still 28 and doesn't turn 30 until next season is over. Not being a good hitter (which isn't even entirely true) doesn't stop this team from carrying Koyie Hill, Jeff Baker, and Blake DeWitt all on one team. All those guys suck at defense too so that's not an excuse.

 

Lahair is a 1B. Those guys are versatile and/or play premium positions. And I don't think they all suck at defense either.

 

I don't have a problem with the concept of such a player on the bench. But it can't be at the expense of anybody else that matters.

 

Baker and DeWitt should be non tenders because we have cheaper and younger versions of them with higher ceilings in LeMahieu and Flaherty.

[dew1679666265]

He is still 28 and doesn't turn 30 until next season is over. Not being a good hitter (which isn't even entirely true) doesn't stop this team from carrying Koyie Hill, Jeff Baker, and Blake DeWitt all on one team. All those guys suck at defense too so that's not an excuse. Should LaHair start? Of course not, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with him on the bench next year. Bench players are rarely studs. Plus, any prospect should get regular ABs, not left to rot on the bench.

 

Baker's not a bad hitter when used properly - against lefties only. His overall numbers are hurt considerably because he's faced too many righties, but he can be very valuable as a power bat (.900+ career OPS v lefties) off the bench against lefties.

[dew1679666265]

Baker and DeWitt should be non tenders because we have cheaper and younger versions of them with higher ceilings in LeMahieu and Flaherty.

 

That doesn't free up a roster spot for LaHair, though. LeMahieu and Flaherty would replace Baker and DeWitt's spots even if you believe both should be gone. And I'd disagree that Baker should be gone. LeMahieu isn't going to be close to the hitter against lefties that Baker is and he could be very valuable should we let Aramis walk this offseason. I'd strongly prefer to keep Baker around.

[bukie]

There's no need to jettison veteran players just because they're veteran players. This is not a small market team, here, and they don't have to go bargain basement at 20 roster spots just to make room for an Albert Pujols.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Baker and DeWitt should be non tenders because we have cheaper and younger versions of them with higher ceilings in LeMahieu and Flaherty.

 

That doesn't free up a roster spot for LaHair, though. LeMahieu and Flaherty would replace Baker and DeWitt's spots even if you believe both should be gone. And I'd disagree that Baker should be gone. LeMahieu isn't going to be close to the hitter against lefties that Baker is and he could be very valuable should we let Aramis walk this offseason. I'd strongly prefer to keep Baker around.

 

Just as an aside...Check out DeWitt's numbers against lefties...for his career his OPS is over .100 points better than it is against RHs, and this year he's hitting .380 against them.

 

Basically, I think one of him or Baker is gone. Both can do the same job, both high lefties....One is just 5 years younger and going to make less than half a million next year. Once again, this is going to be on hell of an offseason. New GM has so many assets to play around with...I really can't wait for this regular season garbahge to end.

[UMFan83]

Baker and DeWitt should be non tenders because we have cheaper and younger versions of them with higher ceilings in LeMahieu and Flaherty.

 

That doesn't free up a roster spot for LaHair, though. LeMahieu and Flaherty would replace Baker and DeWitt's spots even if you believe both should be gone. And I'd disagree that Baker should be gone. LeMahieu isn't going to be close to the hitter against lefties that Baker is and he could be very valuable should we let Aramis walk this offseason. I'd strongly prefer to keep Baker around.

 

Just as an aside...Check out DeWitt's numbers against lefties...for his career his OPS is over .100 points better than it is against RHs, and this year he's hitting .380 against them.

 

Basically, I think one of him or Baker is gone. Both can do the same job, both high lefties....One is just 5 years younger and going to make less than half a million next year. Once again, this is going to be on hell of an offseason. New GM has so many assets to play around with...I really can't wait for this regular season garbahge to end.

 

I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but are you calling Dewitt/Baker an asset?

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but are you calling Dewitt/Baker an asset?

 

Eh, they're close enough....probably closer to a commodity. Guys who can play multiple positions, hit ~league average, show a little power, and do it for cheap can be considered that.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Numerous Japanese teams have been scouting and are prepared to make offers to Cubs first baseman Bryan LaHair, reports Levine. LaHair is intrigued but hopes to remain in the Majors. The 28-year-old snagged Pacific Coast League MVP honors by hitting .331/.405/.664 with 38 home runs in 523 plate appearances, and he's carried that success to the bigs in an eight-game stint. Former Cubs first baseman Micah Hoffpauir went the Japan route a year ago, but is hitting .245/.325/.429 for the Nippon Ham Fighters this year.

 

Bryan LaHair for Yu Darvish. Seriously though, I brought this up when Scales went to Japan, but would there ever be a scenerio in which there could be player trades with Japan or other nations rather than just cash. It would be an interesting scenerio, as there are a lot of Bryan LaHairs out there who could fare better in Japan than they ever would in the US. Obviously, they wouldn't want to send over their top young players, but some fringe guys who would be interested in coming over. A player exchange program if you will.

[SouthSideRyan]

Numerous Japanese teams have been scouting and are prepared to make offers to Cubs first baseman Bryan LaHair, reports Levine. LaHair is intrigued but hopes to remain in the Majors. The 28-year-old snagged Pacific Coast League MVP honors by hitting .331/.405/.664 with 38 home runs in 523 plate appearances, and he's carried that success to the bigs in an eight-game stint. Former Cubs first baseman Micah Hoffpauir went the Japan route a year ago, but is hitting .245/.325/.429 for the Nippon Ham Fighters this year.

 

Bryan LaHair for Yu Darvish. Seriously though, I brought this up when Scales went to Japan, but would there ever be a scenerio in which there could be player trades with Japan or other nations rather than just cash. It would be an interesting scenerio, as there are a lot of Bryan LaHairs out there who could fare better in Japan than they ever would in the US. Obviously, they wouldn't want to send over their top young players, but some fringe guys who would be interested in coming over. A player exchange program if you will.

 

So not a star like Bryan LaHair would be, but a fringe guy.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Numerous Japanese teams have been scouting and are prepared to make offers to Cubs first baseman Bryan LaHair, reports Levine. LaHair is intrigued but hopes to remain in the Majors. The 28-year-old snagged Pacific Coast League MVP honors by hitting .331/.405/.664 with 38 home runs in 523 plate appearances, and he's carried that success to the bigs in an eight-game stint. Former Cubs first baseman Micah Hoffpauir went the Japan route a year ago, but is hitting .245/.325/.429 for the Nippon Ham Fighters this year.

 

Bryan LaHair for Yu Darvish. Seriously though, I brought this up when Scales went to Japan, but would there ever be a scenerio in which there could be player trades with Japan or other nations rather than just cash. It would be an interesting scenerio, as there are a lot of Bryan LaHairs out there who could fare better in Japan than they ever would in the US. Obviously, they wouldn't want to send over their top young players, but some fringe guys who would be interested in coming over. A player exchange program if you will.

 

So not a star like Bryan LaHair would be, but a fringe guy.

 

Guys like LaHair have a pretty good track record in the land of the rising run.

[SouthSideRyan]

Numerous Japanese teams have been scouting and are prepared to make offers to Cubs first baseman Bryan LaHair, reports Levine. LaHair is intrigued but hopes to remain in the Majors. The 28-year-old snagged Pacific Coast League MVP honors by hitting .331/.405/.664 with 38 home runs in 523 plate appearances, and he's carried that success to the bigs in an eight-game stint. Former Cubs first baseman Micah Hoffpauir went the Japan route a year ago, but is hitting .245/.325/.429 for the Nippon Ham Fighters this year.

 

Bryan LaHair for Yu Darvish. Seriously though, I brought this up when Scales went to Japan, but would there ever be a scenerio in which there could be player trades with Japan or other nations rather than just cash. It would be an interesting scenerio, as there are a lot of Bryan LaHairs out there who could fare better in Japan than they ever would in the US. Obviously, they wouldn't want to send over their top young players, but some fringe guys who would be interested in coming over. A player exchange program if you will.

 

So not a star like Bryan LaHair would be, but a fringe guy.

 

Guys like LaHair have a pretty good track record in the land of the rising run.

 

Right, so you don't want to aim too high and ask for someone at his level in return. Somebody worse than Bryan LaHair please.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Numerous Japanese teams have been scouting and are prepared to make offers to Cubs first baseman Bryan LaHair, reports Levine. LaHair is intrigued but hopes to remain in the Majors. The 28-year-old snagged Pacific Coast League MVP honors by hitting .331/.405/.664 with 38 home runs in 523 plate appearances, and he's carried that success to the bigs in an eight-game stint. Former Cubs first baseman Micah Hoffpauir went the Japan route a year ago, but is hitting .245/.325/.429 for the Nippon Ham Fighters this year.

 

Bryan LaHair for Yu Darvish. Seriously though, I brought this up when Scales went to Japan, but would there ever be a scenerio in which there could be player trades with Japan or other nations rather than just cash. It would be an interesting scenerio, as there are a lot of Bryan LaHairs out there who could fare better in Japan than they ever would in the US. Obviously, they wouldn't want to send over their top young players, but some fringe guys who would be interested in coming over. A player exchange program if you will.

 

So not a star like Bryan LaHair would be, but a fringe guy.

 

Guys like LaHair have a pretty good track record in the land of the rising run.

 

Right, so you don't want to aim too high and ask for someone at his level in return. Somebody worse than Bryan LaHair please.

 

I'm not sure what you're getting it, but it sounds like you're trying to goad me into saying that LaHair has more value than we all know that he has. No Japanese team is going to send over their top talent for him,even if he would likely be able to be a very good contributer for him. To us, maybe he's a 24th-25th man, and they probably know very well that we don't send them over our players with any value to us, and that he's spare parts.

[SouthSideRyan]

I'm not sure what you're getting it, but it sounds like you're trying to goad me into saying that LaHair has more value than we all know that he has. No Japanese team is going to send over their top talent for him,even if he would likely be able to be a very good contributer for him. To us, maybe he's a 24th-25th man, and they probably know very well that we don't send them over our players with any value to us, and that he's spare parts.

 

No, I'm saying your Japanese trade idea is bad and you should feel bad for suggesting it.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I'm not sure what you're getting it, but it sounds like you're trying to goad me into saying that LaHair has more value than we all know that he has. No Japanese team is going to send over their top talent for him,even if he would likely be able to be a very good contributer for him. To us, maybe he's a 24th-25th man, and they probably know very well that we don't send them over our players with any value to us, and that he's spare parts.

 

No, I'm saying your Japanese trade idea is bad and you should feel bad for suggesting it.

 

I don't see why. LaHair isn't going to have any big league trade value, and he has little value to us in AAA if they chosen Colvin over him. If it were a cash transaction, we'd get, what something like a mil, which I think is what we got for Hoffpauir. I think that if we were to get a player or 2 instead that would be of greater value.

[SouthSideRyan]

I'm not sure what you're getting it, but it sounds like you're trying to goad me into saying that LaHair has more value than we all know that he has. No Japanese team is going to send over their top talent for him,even if he would likely be able to be a very good contributer for him. To us, maybe he's a 24th-25th man, and they probably know very well that we don't send them over our players with any value to us, and that he's spare parts.

 

No, I'm saying your Japanese trade idea is bad and you should feel bad for suggesting it.

 

I don't see why. LaHair isn't going to have any big league trade value, and he has little value to us in AAA if they chosen Colvin over him. If it were a cash transaction, we'd get, what something like a mil, which I think is what we got for Hoffpauir. I think that if we were to get a player or 2 instead that would be of greater value.

 

BUT THE PLAYER IN RETURN WILL BE WORSE THAN LAHAIR BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I'm not sure what you're getting it, but it sounds like you're trying to goad me into saying that LaHair has more value than we all know that he has. No Japanese team is going to send over their top talent for him,even if he would likely be able to be a very good contributer for him. To us, maybe he's a 24th-25th man, and they probably know very well that we don't send them over our players with any value to us, and that he's spare parts.

 

No, I'm saying your Japanese trade idea is bad and you should feel bad for suggesting it.

 

I don't see why. LaHair isn't going to have any big league trade value, and he has little value to us in AAA if they chosen Colvin over him. If it were a cash transaction, we'd get, what something like a mil, which I think is what we got for Hoffpauir. I think that if we were to get a player or 2 instead that would be of greater value.

 

BUT THE PLAYER IN RETURN WILL BE WORSE THAN LAHAIR BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION.

 

I never said that.

[SouthSideRyan]

*Throws computer against the wall*

[Little Slide Rooter]

*Throws computer against the wall*

 

Maybe you can repair in time to realise that all I'm suggesting is that we try to get a little something for nothing. It's not like I suggested we trade Starlin Castro for some obscure kid from the Ham Fighters.