7/1 White Sox (Jackson) @ Cubs (Wells) 1:20 PM WGN/720

[Little Slide Rooter]

And now we have to face the guy who converted from catcher to dominant reliever in like a week. How the [expletive] does Kenny Williams keep lucking into these [expletive] guys? (Quentin, Santos, Humber)

[Little Slide Rooter]

What a [expletive] embarassment. Fire Quade like 3 months ago.

[SouthSideRyan]

And now we have to face the guy who converted from catcher to dominant reliever in like a week. How the [expletive] does Kenny Williams keep lucking into these [expletive] guys? (Quentin, Santos, Humber)

 

I wish we had a converted catcher on our pitching staff

[Little Slide Rooter]

And now we have to face the guy who converted from catcher to dominant reliever in like a week. How the [expletive] does Kenny Williams keep lucking into these [expletive] guys? (Quentin, Santos, Humber)

 

I wish we had a converted catcher on our pitching staff

 

I know, we have 2. They both spent a few years in the minors after the conversion. Santos was a former top prospect for the Giants as a SS, gets scooped up by the White Sox for nothing having never pitched, pitches a year in the minors, and next thing you know hes one of the best relievers in the game. Williams has made some bad moves, but hes also made alot of lucky ones. Hell, nobody wanted Jermaine Dye or AJ Pierzynskie when the Sox signed them before 2005.

[SouthSideRyan]

And Adam Dunn.

[Little Slide Rooter]

And Adam Dunn.

 

I said bad moves.

[SouthSideRyan]

And Adam Dunn.

 

I said bad moves.

 

Right, point being he's made good moves that have gone bad due to unforseen circumstances. (Dunn turning into Ozzie Timmons)

[Little Slide Rooter]

At least we got that crap out of the way early.

[Little Slide Rooter]

And Adam Dunn.

 

I said bad moves.

 

Right, point being he's made good moves that have gone bad due to unforseen circumstances. (Dunn turning into Ozzie Timmons)

 

True. Im not saying hes a good GM. I just dont get how they keep turning other teams failed prospects into gold. Danks and Floyd were both guys whose teams pretty much gave up on them. Bobby Jenks and Matt Thornton were both picked up from other teams for nothing. They both had some good years before sucking. Quentin was great in 2008, and now hes still decent. And now theres former 4th overall pick Phil Humber whose seemingly becoming an ace.

[Men in Blue]

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"What was that, Ryno?"

[Chisoxillini]

And now we have to face the guy who converted from catcher to dominant reliever in like a week. How the [expletive] does Kenny Williams keep lucking into these [expletive] guys? (Quentin, Santos, Humber)

 

True, but to be fair, he has had some terrible luck go his way too (Dunn, Peavy, Rios)

[Little Slide Rooter]

And now we have to face the guy who converted from catcher to dominant reliever in like a week. How the [expletive] does Kenny Williams keep lucking into these [expletive] guys? (Quentin, Santos, Humber)

 

True, but to be fair, he has had some terrible luck go his way too (Dunn, Peavy, Rios)

Yeah, but Rios was great last year, and they knew what they were getting into with Peavy. He's still very good when healthy. Also, Aaron Poreda, who was the key to that deal has been horrible for the Padres minor league teams and cant throw strikes to save his life. The one deal that many think that the Sox will regret is trading Daniel Hudson for Edwin Jackson who was supposedly only aquired to flip to Washington for Dunn, which Williams denies.

[pitchcs]

To be fair, Quentin and Humber were very accomplished college players and high draft picks.

[UMFan83]

And now we have to face the guy who converted from catcher to dominant reliever in like a week. How the [expletive] does Kenny Williams keep lucking into these [expletive] guys? (Quentin, Santos, Humber)

 

I wish we had a converted catcher on our pitching staff

 

I know, we have 2. They both spent a few years in the minors after the conversion. Santos was a former top prospect for the Giants as a SS, gets scooped up by the White Sox for nothing having never pitched, pitches a year in the minors, and next thing you know hes one of the best relievers in the game. Williams has made some bad moves, but hes also made alot of lucky ones. Hell, nobody wanted Jermaine Dye or AJ Pierzynskie when the Sox signed them before 2005.

 

I am not sure what you are saying? Williams is lucky because he took a converted catcher and turned him into an all star closer? What does it matter if he had 1 year or 3 years of minor league ball, its the same damn thing. The White Sox signed him last year with the exact purpose in mind of turning him into a pitcher, so its not like they just stumbled into his pitching prowess. It's just odd to hear someone complain about how lucky a team is to turn a catching prospect into a dominant closer when the Cubs did the same damn thing 4 years ago.

 

Also not sure how Dye or Pierzynski are "lucky". It's not like they were scrubs that magically turned into stars. Dye was a solid player (hit 23+ HRs 5 of the last 6 years before signing with Sox) with the Royals and A's, but oft injured. The Sox made a low risk high reward signing and it worked out really well for them. Pierzynski was actually rather coveted before he came to the Sox. Two years before he came to the Sox he made the All Star team, the year before he came to Chicago he was traded for Joe Nathan and Francisco Liriano who were pretty good prospects. And since joining the White Sox, his OPS is actually lower than his career OPS so its not like he blew up with the Sox, he has actually done worse.

 

So yeah, nothing you really said made sense to me.

[UMFan83]

And now we have to face the guy who converted from catcher to dominant reliever in like a week. How the [expletive] does Kenny Williams keep lucking into these [expletive] guys? (Quentin, Santos, Humber)

 

True, but to be fair, he has had some terrible luck go his way too (Dunn, Peavy, Rios)

Yeah, but Rios was great last year, and they knew what they were getting into with Peavy. He's still very good when healthy. Also, Aaron Poreda, who was the key to that deal has been horrible for the Padres minor league teams and cant throw strikes to save his life. The one deal that many think that the Sox will regret is trading Daniel Hudson for Edwin Jackson who was supposedly only aquired to flip to Washington for Dunn, which Williams denies.

 

Rios had a .791 OPS last year and made $10.2 million. Not sure that is considered great production.

 

The Sox aren't any "luckier" with prospects than any other MLB team

[Little Slide Rooter]

And now we have to face the guy who converted from catcher to dominant reliever in like a week. How the [expletive] does Kenny Williams keep lucking into these [expletive] guys? (Quentin, Santos, Humber)

 

True, but to be fair, he has had some terrible luck go his way too (Dunn, Peavy, Rios)

Yeah, but Rios was great last year, and they knew what they were getting into with Peavy. He's still very good when healthy. Also, Aaron Poreda, who was the key to that deal has been horrible for the Padres minor league teams and cant throw strikes to save his life. The one deal that many think that the Sox will regret is trading Daniel Hudson for Edwin Jackson who was supposedly only aquired to flip to Washington for Dunn, which Williams denies.

 

Rios had a .791 OPS last year and made $10.2 million. Not sure that is considered great production.

 

The Sox aren't any "luckier" with prospects than any other MLB team

 

With their own prospects, they're no luckier than we are. Maybe worse. It's other teams prospects they get lucky with.

[Sammy Sofa]

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"What was that, Ryno?"

 

Who gives a [expletive]? As bad as Quade can be at least he's not Sandberg.

[TruffleShuffle]

And now theres former 4th overall pick Phil Humber whose seemingly becoming an ace.

 

(a) who's

(b) if he can keep up that .220 babip i'm sure he will be an ace.