Awful Gene Woj Article Bashing Ricketts

[apete6]

I am frustrated with Ricketts, but this article is beyond stupid. What the hell does he want Ricketts to do right now? Firing Hendry midseason accomplishes nothing unless he has his permanent replacement ready to go.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=6689555

[Sammy Sofa]

Eh, he COULD very easily fire Hendry now, and should have fired him after last season. That said, I agree, the article as a whole is very meatball-ish in how it seemingly expects the Ricketts to have created a better team for this season out of thin air.

[javy knows my name]

That Ozzie quote is hilarious. The man has been in the country for 30+ years, and remains willfully English-illiterate

[Prizefight]

This article really doesn't offend me at all. All of us are longing for some strong leadership from Tom. Hendry and Kenney need to go.

[Sammy Sofa]

This article really doesn't offend me at all. All of us are longing for some strong leadership from Tom. Hendry and Kenney need to go.

 

Yes, but the problem with the article and the meatball-thinking it's parroting is that firing the FO would have saved this season or might even turn it around. Firing Hendry and Co. IS the right thing to do...but no way in hell would it shut up the meatballs this year (NO, THIS ISN'T AN ARGUMENT TO KEEP HENDRY).

[jersey cubs fan]

This article really doesn't offend me at all. All of us are longing for some strong leadership from Tom. Hendry and Kenney need to go.

 

Yes, but the problem with the article and the meatball-thinking it's parroting is that firing the FO would have saved this season or might even turn it around. Firing Hendry and Co. IS the right thing to do...but no way in hell would it shut up the meatballs this year (NO, THIS ISN'T AN ARGUMENT TO KEEP HENDRY).

 

But firing him now would start the rehab project sooner and more importantly eliminate the very real possibility that Hendry won't be fired at all.

[apete6]

This article really doesn't offend me at all. All of us are longing for some strong leadership from Tom. Hendry and Kenney need to go.

 

Yes, but the problem with the article and the meatball-thinking it's parroting is that firing the FO would have saved this season or might even turn it around. Firing Hendry and Co. IS the right thing to do...but no way in hell would it shut up the meatballs this year (NO, THIS ISN'T AN ARGUMENT TO KEEP HENDRY).

 

Completely agree. Let Hendry be his own fall guy for those bad contracts. Since a lot of them are ending after this year, bring in a new guy to spend the money. Now let's just hope this happens.

[Prizefight]

This article really doesn't offend me at all. All of us are longing for some strong leadership from Tom. Hendry and Kenney need to go.

 

Yes, but the problem with the article and the meatball-thinking it's parroting is that firing the FO would have saved this season or might even turn it around. Firing Hendry and Co. IS the right thing to do...but no way in hell would it shut up the meatballs this year (NO, THIS ISN'T AN ARGUMENT TO KEEP HENDRY).

 

I'm going to read it again, I didn't get the impression that Woj meant that firings would save or would have saved this season.

 

Maybe he implied that it would have gotten Tom more good will and helped ticket sales early which, if so, I agree with him on

 

 

Edit: The Cubs are such a unique situation. In one hand, it's perfectly reasonable for him to be taking this year to really assess the entire organization from the ground up. Multiple new owners across all sports have done the exact same thing. Unfortunately, there's are a lot of different factors with this team from the pesky century plus thing, Wrigley, bad contracts etc that make this year of toiling very frustrating

[davearm2]

That Ozzie quote is hilarious. The man has been in the country for 30+ years, and remains willfully English-illiterate

LOL plus he still hasn't acclimated to the weather. The dude wears a jacket in the dugout even when it's 95 out.

[Sammy Sofa]

This article really doesn't offend me at all. All of us are longing for some strong leadership from Tom. Hendry and Kenney need to go.

 

Yes, but the problem with the article and the meatball-thinking it's parroting is that firing the FO would have saved this season or might even turn it around. Firing Hendry and Co. IS the right thing to do...but no way in hell would it shut up the meatballs this year (NO, THIS ISN'T AN ARGUMENT TO KEEP HENDRY).

 

But firing him now would start the rehab project sooner and more importantly eliminate the very real possibility that Hendry won't be fired at all.

 

Jesus [expletive] Christ; are you [expletive] blind? Did I need to blow the final part up into gigantic neon letters?

[jersey cubs fan]

In one hand, it's perfectly reasonable for him to be taking this year to really assess the entire organization from the ground up.

 

I completely disagree. He should have had a pretty good assessment of the organization before the sale was completed, and at most the "reasonable" amount of time ran out after last season. He shouldn't need multiple seasons to assess a failing organization.

[Sammy Sofa]

This article really doesn't offend me at all. All of us are longing for some strong leadership from Tom. Hendry and Kenney need to go.

 

Yes, but the problem with the article and the meatball-thinking it's parroting is that firing the FO would have saved this season or might even turn it around. Firing Hendry and Co. IS the right thing to do...but no way in hell would it shut up the meatballs this year (NO, THIS ISN'T AN ARGUMENT TO KEEP HENDRY).

 

I'm going to read it again, I didn't get the impression that Woj meant that firings would save or would have saved this season.

 

Maybe he implied that it would have gotten Tom more good will and helped ticket sales early which, if so, I agree with him on

 

 

Edit: The Cubs are such a unique situation. In one hand, it's perfectly reasonable for him to be taking this year to really assess the entire organization from the ground up. Multiple new owners across all sports have done the exact same thing. Unfortunately, there's are a lot of different factors with this team from the pesky century plus thing, Wrigley, bad contracts etc that make this year of toiling very frustrating

 

I completely understood taking the first year to kind of get settled in, but I really can't justify Hendry being kept on after that. I understand that a new GM wouldn't have made much a difference on this year (and personally I don't think it would have done much of anything with the tickets since it likely would be the same team), but I would have preferred to see the FO turnover taken care of before the upcoming FA bonanza. Dealing with a changing FO right as that is opening up makes me nervous and I want Hendry and Co. out sooner rather than later, regardless of the meatballs.

[jersey cubs fan]

This article really doesn't offend me at all. All of us are longing for some strong leadership from Tom. Hendry and Kenney need to go.

 

Yes, but the problem with the article and the meatball-thinking it's parroting is that firing the FO would have saved this season or might even turn it around. Firing Hendry and Co. IS the right thing to do...but no way in hell would it shut up the meatballs this year (NO, THIS ISN'T AN ARGUMENT TO KEEP HENDRY).

 

But firing him now would start the rehab project sooner and more importantly eliminate the very real possibility that Hendry won't be fired at all.

 

Jesus [expletive] Christ; are you [expletive] blind? Did I need to blow the final part up into gigantic neon letters?

 

Are you illiterate? I never accused you of arguing to keep Hendry. But there is a very real chance that Hendry won't be fired at all after this season, so one of the reasons for wanting it done ASAP is making sure it gets done at all.

[Sammy Sofa]

This article really doesn't offend me at all. All of us are longing for some strong leadership from Tom. Hendry and Kenney need to go.

 

Yes, but the problem with the article and the meatball-thinking it's parroting is that firing the FO would have saved this season or might even turn it around. Firing Hendry and Co. IS the right thing to do...but no way in hell would it shut up the meatballs this year (NO, THIS ISN'T AN ARGUMENT TO KEEP HENDRY).

 

But firing him now would start the rehab project sooner and more importantly eliminate the very real possibility that Hendry won't be fired at all.

 

Jesus [expletive] Christ; are you [expletive] blind? Did I need to blow the final part up into gigantic neon letters?

 

Are you illiterate? I never accused you of arguing to keep Hendry. But there is a very real chance that Hendry won't be fired at all after this season, so one of the reasons for wanting it done ASAP is making sure it gets done at all.

 

No, I'm not illiterate, since only an illiterate wouldn't realize that writing the response you did was obviously written as if it was countering something I said. You did your usual "gloss a post over even it is only three sentences long and then just assume that it said something I can argue against." How about you start actually [expletive] reading posts instead of just guessing as to what's being said?

[jersey cubs fan]

No, I'm not illiterate, since only an illiterate wouldn't realize that writing the response you did was obviously written as if it was countering something I said. You did your usual "gloss a post over even it is only three sentences long and then just assume that it said something I can argue against." How about you start actually [expletive] reading posts instead of just guessing as to what's being said?

 

What the hell are you talking about?

 

I was perfectly civil in my response and you went nuts. There are many reasons to want Hendry gone right now. I was pointing one out. If it was clear he was gone at the end of the season there would be much less reason for concern. But there are significant indications he will stay, so the sooner the better to keep that from happening.

[Guest]

"Firing Hendry now so I don't have to worry any more that you won't do it" doesn't strike me as an incredibly compelling reason.

[jersey cubs fan]

For the record, you pointed out it wouldn't save this season. I agree, but noted that it would have the benefit of moving in the right direction sooner, and also pointed out the concern that he won't be fired at all.

[jersey cubs fan]

"Firing Hendry now so I don't have to worry any more that you won't do it" doesn't strike me as an incredibly compelling reason.

 

Of course it's not the only reason, but it's a perfectly legitimate reason to want it done now. The only rational decision was to do it a long time ago.

[Sammy Sofa]

For the record, you pointed out it wouldn't save this season. I agree, but noted that it would have the benefit of moving in the right direction sooner, and also pointed out the concern that he won't be fired at all.

 

Except you didn't come across as agreeing with anything with how you responded. Yeah, it's semantics, but you obviously posed your response as a rebuttal instead of any kind of agreement or added concern. If you can't tell the difference, fine, I understand.

Edited June 22, 2011 by Sammy Sofa

[dew1679666265]

For the record, you pointed out it wouldn't save this season. I agree, but noted that it would have the benefit of moving in the right direction sooner, and also pointed out the concern that he won't be fired at all.

 

I don't know that it would really change the direction unless the Ricketts had a permanent GM ready to install upon firing Hendry. If Hendry were to be fired tomorrow, the likelihood is that we'd have Randy Bush as the interim GM and he'd be making moves in an effort to win the job outright (which very well might include making desperation moves to trade prospects for very marginal short term upgrades).

 

Ricketts could always hover over Bush and make sure he didn't do anything really dumb, but he could do that with Hendry as well. I just don't think a new direction will be established until a new permanent GM is hired and that's extremely unlikely to happen (or especially be done well) midseason.

[davell]

I'm not sure what kind of "plan" Ricketts could even be showing us right now honestly. I think the big picture comes out during this offseason. It'll be the first time we've had money truly coming off the books. And until you have someone out there to replace Hendry, there's no real reason to fire him just to fire him. Not to mention, it probably doesn't look all that attractive to GM's coming into a situation where they're going to be hamstrung the entire first year of their era anyway.

 

Couple that with the type of guys we drafted, the amounts it's probably going to take to sign most of them and the talk of increased spending on IFA as well and I'm OK with his approach so far.

[jersey cubs fan]

For the record, you pointed out it wouldn't save this season. I agree, but noted that it would have the benefit of moving in the right direction sooner, and also pointed out the concern that he won't be fired at all.

 

Except you didn't come across as agreeing with anything with how you responded. Yeah, it's semantics, but you obviously posed your response as a rebuttal instead of any kind of agreement or added concern. If you can't tell the difference, fine, I understand.

 

Even if you thought I was only disagreeing there was no reason to be an [expletive] in your response.

[davearm2]

I'm not sure what kind of "plan" Ricketts could even be showing us right now honestly. I think the big picture comes out during this offseason. It'll be the first time we've had money truly coming off the books. And until you have someone out there to replace Hendry, there's no real reason to fire him just to fire him. Not to mention, it probably doesn't look all that attractive to GM's coming into a situation where they're going to be hamstrung the entire first year of their era anyway.

 

Couple that with the type of guys we drafted, the amounts it's probably going to take to sign most of them and the talk of increased spending on IFA as well and I'm OK with his approach so far.

Well said. There's no great permanent replacement available right now, so the best course is to hold off until such time as one is.

[Sammy Sofa]

For the record, you pointed out it wouldn't save this season. I agree, but noted that it would have the benefit of moving in the right direction sooner, and also pointed out the concern that he won't be fired at all.

 

Except you didn't come across as agreeing with anything with how you responded. Yeah, it's semantics, but you obviously posed your response as a rebuttal instead of any kind of agreement or added concern. If you can't tell the difference, fine, I understand.

 

Even if you thought I was only disagreeing there was no reason to be an [expletive] in your response.

 

Sure there is. You're the king of the "OH MY GOD, SOMEONE MIGHT BE DEFENDING HENDRY!!!" brigade.

[UMFan83]

This article really doesn't offend me at all. All of us are longing for some strong leadership from Tom. Hendry and Kenney need to go.

 

Strong leadership could also mean putting together a plan, and sticking to that plan in the face of fan and media scrutiny.

 

I'm not saying his plan is going to work or that I particularly believe in it, but I'm comfortable in letting him carrying it out without bowing into fan or media pressure.