Prospects who were never Cubs

[TruffleShuffle]

obligatory dylan bundy update: 5 ip, 1 h, 0 r, 0 bb, 4 k - first professional win.

 

season line: 30 ip, 5 h, 2 r, 0 er, 2 bb, 40 k.

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

This is mostly because of my contrarian nature, but I once castes doubts on Bundy. Even after I watched all the workout videos he put up...which are badass btw.

[Guest]

obligatory dylan bundy update: 5 ip, 1 h, 0 r, 0 bb, 4 k - first professional win.

 

season line: 30 ip, 5 h, 2 r, 0 er, 2 bb, 40 k.

Only 4k's? He's slipping.

[javy knows my name]

This is mostly because of my contrarian nature, but I once castes doubts on Bundy. Even after I watched all the workout videos he put up...which are badass btw.

 

Yeah, he's really looked like [expletive].

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

This is mostly because of my contrarian nature, but I once castes doubts on Bundy. Even after I watched all the workout videos he put up...which are badass btw.

 

Yeah, he's really looked like [expletive].

 

...Wow.

 

That would be the point.

[javy knows my name]

This is mostly because of my contrarian nature, but I once castes doubts on Bundy. Even after I watched all the workout videos he put up...which are badass btw.

 

Yeah, he's really looked like [expletive].

 

...Wow.

 

That would be the point.

 

So you meant casted, which isn't a word. Got it.

[imb]

what in the world would have caused you to cast doubt on bundy before he pitched professionally, other than the NSTAAPP thing

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

This is mostly because of my contrarian nature, but I once castes doubts on Bundy. Even after I watched all the workout videos he put up...which are badass btw.

 

Yeah, he's really looked like [expletive].

 

...Wow.

 

That would be the point.

 

So you meant casted, which isn't a word. Got it.

 

Cast with extra letters actually...which probably has nothing to do with your original post anyway.

 

imb, not tall and not projectable as a HS arm....Turns out it's because he's already got the goods. I was turned around after the mid-point of the whole draft talk saga anyway, but yep it did happen.

[TruffleShuffle]

Yeah I'd really be concerned that a guy whose fastball sits in the upper 90s does not project to add much velocity.

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

Yeah I'd really be concerned that a guy whose fastball sits in the upper 90s does not project to add much velocity.

 

Shudup! *hangs head*

 

I'm a contrarian, what do you want? It went away fast as more and more pitching videos hit the Internet.

[El Duderino]

They finally promoted Bundy to high-A.

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

Bundy pron in the form of a 2 minute video within a scouting report article:

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/scouting-dylan-bundy/

 

The stuff is as nasty as you think it would be, the fastball is as hard as you'd expect it to be, and he buries a curveball at 1:44 that clearly has curveball of doom potential.

 

Kind of reminds me of a young Javier Vazquez with a better fastball. Not sure at all why Vazquez is the first name that came to mind...maybe it was the two curveballs he throws during his side session/bullpen at the beginning, and the leg kick has some similarities. He's got the same kind of blow it right by you fastball Sheets had when he threw hard (it's also straight), and if he can bury that curve like he does in the video...I'm babbling here just watch the video and enjoy Bundy being Bundy.

[Cubswin11]

Bundy pron in the form of a 2 minute video within a scouting report article:

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/scouting-dylan-bundy/

 

The stuff is as nasty as you think it would be, the fastball is as hard as you'd expect it to be, and he buries a curveball at 1:44 that clearly has curveball of doom potential.

 

Kind of reminds me of a young Javier Vazquez with a better fastball. Not sure at all why Vazquez is the first name that came to mind...maybe it was the two curveballs he throws during his side session/bullpen at the beginning, and the leg kick has some similarities. He's got the same kind of blow it right by you fastball Sheets had when he threw hard (it's also straight), and if he can bury that curve like he does in the video...I'm babbling here just watch the video and enjoy Bundy being Bundy.

Thanks for the video. His pitching mechanics, especially when they show him out of the stretch warming up before the game, remind me a little of Harden.

[imb]

Bundy pron in the form of a 2 minute video within a scouting report article:

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/scouting-dylan-bundy/

 

The stuff is as nasty as you think it would be, the fastball is as hard as you'd expect it to be, and he buries a curveball at 1:44 that clearly has curveball of doom potential.

 

Kind of reminds me of a young Javier Vazquez with a better fastball. Not sure at all why Vazquez is the first name that came to mind...maybe it was the two curveballs he throws during his side session/bullpen at the beginning, and the leg kick has some similarities. He's got the same kind of blow it right by you fastball Sheets had when he threw hard (it's also straight), and if he can bury that curve like he does in the video...I'm babbling here just watch the video and enjoy Bundy being Bundy.

Thanks for the video. His pitching mechanics, especially when they show him out of the stretch warming up before the game, remind me a little of Harden.

 

physically he's very similar.

[javy knows my name]

Kinda hope that's where the similarities end

[illiniguy]

Kinda hope that's where the similarities end

I'm hoping for the they both played for the cubs one to be true also.

[Tryptamine]

Blue Jay's #1 prospect Travis d'Arnaud has hit 7HR in his last 10 games to go along with a .924 OPS. As soon as the Jays do whatever it is they're going to do with Arrencibia, I could see d'Arnaud come up and put together a career like McCann.

[PriortoTheoIhadWood]

Blue Jay's #1 prospect Travis d'Arnaud has hit 7HR in his last 10 games to go along with a .924 OPS. As soon as the Jays do whatever it is they're going to do with Arrencibia, I could see d'Arnaud come up and put together a career like McCann.

 

Send Arencibia to the Cubs for the ability to start d'Arnaud.

[Tryptamine]

Top 100 prospect Yasmani Grandal gets called up and gets 1 AB before being sent back down. This is pretty much the equivalent of the Cubs doing the same with BJax. I don't know that I've ever seen this type of thing done with a real prospect. It's usually the 30 year old journeyman.

[Guest]

http://triblive.com/sports/pirates/1909481-85/allie-pitcher-hitter-pirates-team-biertempfel-converting-draft-huntington-kovacevic

 

Stetson Allie being converted from pitcher.

[Guest]

Stetson Allie, the 2nd rounder from last year's Pirates spending binge, is being converted to a hitter. In his short pitching career he had 37 walks in 26.2 IP, including 8 walks in 2 outings this year, totaling 0.2 IP.

[TruffleShuffle]

lol. lots of people loved that pick too. poor pirates can't catch a break; dump $2.5m on a high school kid hitting 100mph and immediately he forgets how to throw the ball over the plate.

[Guest]

lol. lots of people loved that pick too. poor pirates can't catch a break; dump $2.5m on a high school kid hitting 100mph and immediately he forgets how to throw the ball over the plate.

 

To be fair, he had questions about his command when he was drafted.

 

Though he'll struggle with his control and command, the only pitcher in this draft with comparable pure stuff is Jameson Taillon.

[Guest]

Stetson Allie, the 2nd rounder from last year's Pirates spending binge, is being converted to a hitter. In his short pitching career he had 37 walks in 26.2 IP, including 8 walks in 2 outings this year, totaling 0.2 IP.

lol on top of those walks, he had 10 HBP and 10 WP

[TruffleShuffle]

Stetson Allie, the 2nd rounder from last year's Pirates spending binge, is being converted to a hitter. In his short pitching career he had 37 walks in 26.2 IP, including 8 walks in 2 outings this year, totaling 0.2 IP.

lol on top of those walks, he had 10 HBP and 10 WP

 

meh, jason neighborgall was way better than that:

 

3 seasons: 42.1 IP, 40 H, 93 R, 81 ER, 2 HR, 128 BB, 48 K, 13 HBP, 59 WP, 17.22 ERA, 3.97 WHIP

 

It finally happened.

 

PECOTA has survived oddities like Barry Bonds and Ichiro Suzuki. It’s survived 17-year-olds who hit .162 in rookie ball. It’s survived Julio Franco, although we have to cheat a little bit to make that happen. But when I woke up this morning to something called a “subscript out of range error”, the batch of forecasts I was running overnight stopped midway in its tracks, I realized that PECOTA finally met the man it couldn’t handle: Jason Neighborgall.

 

Neighborgall, a pitching prospect in the Diamondbacks system, is a modern day Steve Dalkowski. Except that, he makes Dalkowski look like Carlos Silva. Dalkowski, throughout his minor league career, walked 12.2 batters per nine innings. Neighborgall, in his rookie season, walked 17.9 batters per nine innings. As if that wasn’t enough, he upped his rate this year to 31.9 walks per nine innings. In the Pioneer League. He faced 99 batters this season … 46 of those drew a free pass to first base. Neighborgall issued nearly as many walks as his opponents had at-bats (48). He gave up 11 hits … and 22 wild pitches.

 

PECOTA can’t find anybody remotely close to Neighborgall’s numbers in its database, which covers all minor league players since 1997. When we finally do make it more and more and more tolerant, so that it brings in any ol’ rookie-ball pitcher with below-average command, it spits out nonsense: 12 innings, 3,217 walks, and negative 6,000 strikeouts. Things like that.

 

There’s the old aphorism about a pitcher who loses 20 games in a season having to be a pretty good arm; otherwise, he’d never have gotten the chance to accumulate so many losses. By that theory, Neighborgall is one of the best prospects in baseball. But PECOTA won’t be able to confirm that.