2011 Cubs picks and signings thread

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2.Vogelbach, Daniel Bishop Verot HS (FL) 1B L/R 6'00" 250 1992-12-17 18 HS

"We made a decision of what it would be worth not to go to college," said father Dan Vogelbach, whose son received a scholarship to attend the University of Florida. "We were not going to deviate, so we agreed not to go lower." Before the draft, the Vogelbachs wrote down the bonus amount they wanted, sent it to the Major League Scouting Bureau and asked that it be given to every team. Dan Vogelbach said what they asked for is a little higher than what past picks at No. 68 averaged. Those ranged from $477,000 to $1.1 million the past five years. "Four teams said it was an extremely fair number," Dan Vogelbach said.

 

3.DeVoss, Ezekiel Miami CF S/R 5'10" 175 1990-07-17 20 SO

"The Cubs are going to be calling back in the next couple of days to discuss things," DeVoss told the Miami Herald. "I don't intend on having it be something that lasts all summer. I'll decide in the next week or two. At this point, it's really 50-50. "I would like to sign, but I wouldn't have any problem with coming back next year.

 

5.Scott, Tayler Notre Dame HS (AZ) RHP R/R 6'03" 165 1992-06-01 19 HS

Among the Arizona recruiting class, Tayler Scott, a pitcher from Scottsdale Notre Dame, was selected in the fifth round by the Chicago Cubs. He told the Arizona Republic that he will sign a pro contract as he pursues his dream of being the first South African to reach the major leagues.

 

7.Gretzky, Trevor Oaks Christian HS (CA) 1B L/L 6'04" 190 1992-09-14 18 HS

The 6-foot-4, 190-pound Gretzky has committed to San Diego State, but probably won't play for the Tony Gwynn-led Aztecs. "It's still early, but I want to start my pro career as soon as possible," Gretzky said. "If it works out, great. But I am going to talk to (the Cubs) in the next couple of days and see. Nothing is set in stone yet."

 

9.Schlecht, Garrett Waterloo HS (IL) RF L/L 6'02" 1993-02-15 18 HS

"I always said when I was little that I wanted to be a professional baseball player and I finally earned my spot," he said. "I worked really hard at a it and it's a dream come true."

 

Summary: No idea on Zych, but sounds like Vogelbach will require superslot over a million, but the Cubs knew that and are prepared to pay. Sure safe superslot, the only question is how much. Otherwise, it seems like basically all of the first ten picks will be signable. Gretzky, Taylor, Schlecht, they all sound like they'll sign assuming the Cubs give the typical HS slot prices (which are of course "overslot" relative to college players in the same rounds.) I assume Lockhart will be signable, since his Dad works for them so they should have a pretty clear grip on what the family expects, and since he's not that high-ceiling a guy they wouldn't pick him that high if they expected signability to be real challenging. No idea on the Puerto Rican catcher, and last year we whiffed on Puerto Rican DeJesus. But Rosario didn't sound like that amazing of a prospect, so you don't spend 6th pick on a guy unless you're either pretty confident he'll sign or unless you think he's so spectacular that he's worth gambling on. Maybe the latter applies, but if not, then they probably figure he's signable.

 

It's after the first ten rounds that things get dicey, with Dunston and Maples especially.

 

 

23.Zimmer, Bradley La Jolla HS (CA) CF L/R 6'04" 185 1992-11-27 18 HS

..Both Zimmer boys value education, which for Bradley, is one reason why he wants to play in college. He knows that if not drafted high enough, it might not be worth it to him to miss out on his education. “I feel like I would be missing a chapter in my life,” Bradley said. “I have such a good offer there, my brother is there and I would love to play with him again.”

The higher a player is drafted, the more money he can get with a contract and a signing bonus. Bradley is not sure where he will get drafted, but he thinks somewhere in the first 10 rounds.

 

Note: Obviously he's not signing for 23rd round slot. But if he's thinking top 10 rounds, if you pay him 8th round HS slot it sounds like he might be signable. So I'm figuring the standard $120-200K HS slot might get fairly close.

 

25.Shoulders, Roderick State College of

Florida Manatee - Sarasota 1B L/R 6'02" 225 1991-09-26 19 J1

He hopes to meet with Cubs officials soon to discuss a potential deal, though he added his draft position certainly wasn't what he was hoping for. "As of right now I still don't know what's going on, but I doubt they want to give me what I want that late, drafting me that late in the draft. But there's no telling," said Shoulders, who spent this past season at State College of Florida, Manatee-Sarasota. "They could do it; they could not. But worse comes to worst, which it isn't a bad thing, I go to USF. But I love that place, so it's not a bad thing to go there. Right now I feel I'm in a great situation being 19 years old with two great choices to pick from."

 

Note: again, sounds to me like if you offer 10th round money, or teenage slot $120-250K, he'll be signable.

 

Fantastic post, thanks.

 

And nick23, thanks for posting Law's thoughts. Good stuff all around.

[Little Slide Rooter]

When do the day 3 festivities begin?

[thefranchise]

Going on now. Currently in Round 35

[Little Slide Rooter]

have we picked anyone interesting?

[thefranchise]

I don't know any of these players, but feel free to look them up.

 

Round 31: OF Ronnie Richardson - UCF

Round 32: RHP Pete Levitt Mount - Olive College

Round 33: LHP Sheldon McDonald - University of British Columbia

Round 34: OF Hunter Kelley - Calhoun CC

Round 35: RHP Ian Dickson - Lafayette College

Round 36: UTIL Travis Garcia - Martin Methodist College (TN)

[waffle]

has our Canadian scouting/drafting led to any good minor league talent? Sure seems like we draft a few from up North

[thefranchise]

Ex Cubs catcher Scott Servais just had his son drafted.

[thefranchise]

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110607&content_id=20160726&vkey=draftcentral2011

 

Funny blurb describing Randy Wells

[Little Slide Rooter]

2.Vogelbach, Daniel Bishop Verot HS (FL) 1B L/R 6'00" 250 1992-12-17 18 HS

"We made a decision of what it would be worth not to go to college," said father Dan Vogelbach, whose son received a scholarship to attend the University of Florida. "We were not going to deviate, so we agreed not to go lower." Before the draft, the Vogelbachs wrote down the bonus amount they wanted, sent it to the Major League Scouting Bureau and asked that it be given to every team. Dan Vogelbach said what they asked for is a little higher than what past picks at No. 68 averaged. Those ranged from $477,000 to $1.1 million the past five years. "Four teams said it was an extremely fair number," Dan Vogelbach said.

 

3.DeVoss, Ezekiel Miami CF S/R 5'10" 175 1990-07-17 20 SO

"The Cubs are going to be calling back in the next couple of days to discuss things," DeVoss told the Miami Herald. "I don't intend on having it be something that lasts all summer. I'll decide in the next week or two. At this point, it's really 50-50. "I would like to sign, but I wouldn't have any problem with coming back next year.

 

5.Scott, Tayler Notre Dame HS (AZ) RHP R/R 6'03" 165 1992-06-01 19 HS

Among the Arizona recruiting class, Tayler Scott, a pitcher from Scottsdale Notre Dame, was selected in the fifth round by the Chicago Cubs. He told the Arizona Republic that he will sign a pro contract as he pursues his dream of being the first South African to reach the major leagues.

 

7.Gretzky, Trevor Oaks Christian HS (CA) 1B L/L 6'04" 190 1992-09-14 18 HS

The 6-foot-4, 190-pound Gretzky has committed to San Diego State, but probably won't play for the Tony Gwynn-led Aztecs. "It's still early, but I want to start my pro career as soon as possible," Gretzky said. "If it works out, great. But I am going to talk to (the Cubs) in the next couple of days and see. Nothing is set in stone yet."

 

9.Schlecht, Garrett Waterloo HS (IL) RF L/L 6'02" 1993-02-15 18 HS

"I always said when I

 

was little that I wanted to be a professional baseball player and I finally earned my spot," he said. "I worked really hard at a it and it's a dream come true."

 

Summary: No idea on Zych, but sounds like Vogelbach will require superslot over a million, but the Cubs knew that and are prepared to pay. Sure safe superslot, the only question is how much. Otherwise, it seems like basically all of the first ten picks will be signable. Gretzky, Taylor, Schlecht, they all sound like they'll sign assuming the Cubs give the typical HS slot prices (which are of course "overslot" relative to college players in the same rounds.) I assume Lockhart will be signable, since his Dad works for them so they should have a pretty clear grip on what the family expects, and since he's not that high-ceiling a guy they wouldn't pick him that high if they expected signability to be real challenging. No idea on the Puerto Rican catcher, and last year we whiffed on Puerto Rican DeJesus. But Rosario didn't sound like that amazing of a prospect, so you don't spend 6th pick on a guy unless you're either pretty confident he'll sign or unless you think he's so spectacular that he's worth gambling on. Maybe the latter applies, but if not, then they probably figure he's signable.

 

It's after the first ten rounds that things get dicey, with Dunston and Maples especially.

 

 

23.Zimmer, Bradley La Jolla HS (CA) CF L/R 6'04" 185 1992-11-27 18 HS

..Both Zimmer boys value education, which for Bradley, is one reason why he wants to play in college. He knows that if not drafted high enough, it might not be worth it to him to miss out on his education. “I feel like I would be missing a chapter in my life,” Bradley said. “I have such a good offer there, my brother is there and I would love to play with him again.”

The higher a player is drafted, the more money he can get with a contract and a signing bonus. Bradley is not sure where he will get drafted, but he thinks somewhere in the first 10 rounds.

 

Note: Obviously he's not signing for 23rd round slot. But if he's thinking top 10 rounds, if you pay him 8th round HS slot it sounds like he might be signable. So I'm figuring the standard $120-200K HS slot might get fairly close.

 

25.Shoulders, Roderick State College of

Florida Manatee - Sarasota 1B L/R 6'02" 225 1991-09-26 19 J1

He hopes to meet with Cubs officials soon to discuss a potential deal, though he added his draft position certainly wasn't what he was hoping for. "As of right now I still don't know what's going on, but I doubt they want to give me what I want that late, drafting me that late in the draft. But there's no telling," said Shoulders, who spent this past season at State College of Florida, Manatee-Sarasota. "They could do it; they could not. But worse comes to worst, which it isn't a bad thing, I go to USF. But I love that place, so it's not a bad thing to go there. Right now I feel I'm in a great situation being 19 years old with two great choices to pick from."

 

Note: again, sounds to me like if you offer 10th round money, or teenage slot $120-250K, he'll be signable.

 

Fantastic post, thanks.

 

And nick23, thanks for posting Law's thoughts. Good stuff all around.

I say let Zimmer and Shoulders have their precious edgeamacation and offer Maples and Dunston more money.

[thefranchise]

Round 37: RHP Steven Maxwell - TCU

 

Was drafted in the 12th round last year

[davell]

Richardson is a speed guy with gap power. All I can remember about him honestly, but he was a guy that was in BA top 100 college players heading into this season. No idea what kind of year he had, but it much have been pretty ugly.

[thefranchise]

Round 38: RHP Casey Lucchese - College of Charleston

[thefranchise]

Round 39: RHP Ricky Jacquez - Franklin HS (TX)

[thefranchise]

He was projected to go as high as round 1

 

Baseball America, which ranks Jacquez as the 190th best prospect in this year's draft, is one of the lowest rankings on Jacquez.

 

Several scouts and websites put Jacquez in the top 100 prospects based purely on talent. ESPN's Keith Law ranks Jacquez No. 93 while MLBbonusbaby. com lists Jacquez at No. 95

 

He probably won't sign and will go to Texas

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Stupid question: Has anyone ever done a WAR:dollars study on these high draft picks? It seems like an awful lot to shell out millions to these guys when they can be such a long shot to even make the majors.

[thefranchise]

Round 40: RHP Patrick Francescon - Trevecca Nazarene U (TN)

[jersey cubs fan]

Stupid question: Has anyone ever done a WAR:dollars study on these high draft picks? It seems like an awful lot to shell out millions to these guys when they can be such a long shot to even make the majors.

 

When you consider what kind of money international free agents can get, I think it may actually be depressed a bit. A $4m investment can turn into an extremely cheap 4+ years of service time. Throwing $10m at a group should get you some payoff.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Im sure its happened on more than one occasion when a guy turns down a big bonus in a mid-late round, only to never be drafted again. I wonder what kind of effect that has on a guys life. Just sayin.

[woodchip2153]

Stupid question: Has anyone ever done a WAR:dollars study on these high draft picks? It seems like an awful lot to shell out millions to these guys when they can be such a long shot to even make the majors.

 

I don't know where I read it, or if I'm making it up, but I seem to remember reading a study that teams get there greatest return on investment from the draft.

[thefranchise]

Round 41: RHP Austin Urban - Des Moines Area CC

[apete6]

Im sure its happened on more than one occasion when a guy turns down a big bonus in a mid-late round, only to never be drafted again. I wonder what kind of effect that has on a guys life. Just sayin.

 

There was some story about a guy who turned down $1M+ and is now working at Costco changing tires. Moron.

[davell]

Jacquez is an excellent two way player, Texas is one of those schools it's hard to take guys away from, and he got drafted in round 39. It's going to take some serious coin to make him change his mind, most likely. He's probably either said there's no chance whatsoever or threw out something like what Maples did.

 

Either way, it's cool to see us draft these types. It'll be the only thing we've got any interest in all summer: The quest to sign overslots

[thefranchise]

Round 42: SS Brad Zapenas - Boston College

[thefranchise]

Round 43: RHP Jay Calhoun - Second Baptist School (TX)

[thefranchise]

Round 44: SS Kenny Socorro - Marshall University