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Mychael Urban of CSN Bay Area reports that the Giants have had internal discussions about making a run at trading for the Mets' Jose Reyes.

The Giants have not been pleased with the play of Miguel Tejada thus far both at the plate and in the field, and the injury to Pablo Sandoval has increased the need for an upgrade. Reyes, who is a free agent after the season, was batting .309/.348/.439 with 10 steals and 18 runs scored coming into action Tuesday. Urban's source says not only have the Mets already decided to shop Reyes, but perhaps Carlos Beltran and David Wright, as well.

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Byrd for Beltran straight up.
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I'll take David Wright for Aramis and prospects. GIve them an expiring contract to save money and some decent arms for the future.

 

Aramis, Vitters and whatever else it takes?

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I'll take David Wright for Aramis and prospects. GIve them an expiring contract to save money and some decent arms for the future.

 

an expiring contract? this isn't the nba.

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I'll take David Wright for Aramis and prospects. GIve them an expiring contract to save money and some decent arms for the future.

 

an expiring contract? this isn't the nba.

 

Wouldn't that potentially have some appeal to a team in serious financial trouble?

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I'll take David Wright for Aramis and prospects. GIve them an expiring contract to save money and some decent arms for the future.

 

an expiring contract? this isn't the nba.

 

Wouldn't that potentially have some appeal to a team in serious financial trouble?

 

not really, if they're in financial trouble then just trade wright for a bunch of prospects. how does paying aramis ramirez to underproduce for $10 million and then leave make any sense to a terrible team like the mets?

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I'll take David Wright for Aramis and prospects. GIve them an expiring contract to save money and some decent arms for the future.

 

an expiring contract? this isn't the nba.

 

Wouldn't that potentially have some appeal to a team in serious financial trouble?

 

not really, if they're in financial trouble then just trade wright for a bunch of prospects. how does paying aramis ramirez to underproduce for $10 million and then leave make any sense to a terrible team like the mets?

 

Because they're a terrible team like the Mets. I mean, I'm figuring the Cubs would make prospects the focus of the deal anyway. Throw Aramis and some money in there for the hell of it since he and Wright effectively negate each other, unless they could trick the Mets into taking Pena and his money for next year instead.

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I brought up David Wright a couple of months ago, maybe even before we traded for Garza. I'd love to find a way to get him, but considering what it took to get a guy like Garza, I can't even really imagine what the Mets think Wright is worth: My guess is they'd start with Castro and want more than just him. Assuming Alderson realizes he can't get him, I'd be shocked if we could land him without including both Brett and McNutt in a deal, with probably more going their way as well. Worth it? I say yes actually, depending on how things go over the next month or two in the minors(to see if anyone steps up and looks like they may be a capable replacement prospect, albeit probably at a different spot than those 2) and how we do in June with the draft. If we load up there and have a guy or two step up also, go for it. Guys like Wright aren't exactly easy to find obviously.
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not really, if they're in financial trouble then just trade wright for a bunch of prospects. how does paying aramis ramirez to underproduce for $10 million and then leave make any sense to a terrible team like the mets?

 

If they're getting a good haul of prospects either way, getting a name like Ramirez might help keep the fans a little happier. An Aramis+prospects for Wright deal looks a lot less like giving up - especially to the casual fan - than all prospects for Wright.

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They will want McNutt.

 

Also heard that the Dodgers only have enough money to make payroll through the end of this month.

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They will want McNutt.

 

Also heard that the Dodgers only have enough money to make payroll through the end of this month.

McNutt, Vitters and Aramis for Wright?

 

I would do that in a second.

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I wonder if they'd do something like Soto, Vitters and Ha.

 

The problem with that is we're losing a lot of the value of going from Aramis to Wright by dropping from Soto to Wellington Castillo/Koyie Hill/Max Ramirez. As much as I'd hate to trade McNutt so shortly after dealing Archer, I'd almost rather include him than Soto.

 

We've got a lot of good, young starting pitchers floating around the minors - we don't have any catchers who will give us an .850+ OPS.

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I wonder if they'd do something like Soto, Vitters and Ha.

 

The problem with that is we're losing a lot of the value of going from Aramis to Wright by dropping from Soto to Wellington Castillo/Koyie Hill/Max Ramirez. As much as I'd hate to trade McNutt so shortly after dealing Archer, I'd almost rather include him than Soto.

 

We've got a lot of good, young starting pitchers floating around the minors - we don't have any catchers who will give us an .850+ OPS.

Soto is the same age as Wright and is about to get expensive. I'd much rather have Wright over the next 5-6 years considering how catchers tend to break down (and Soto already is a bit injury-prone). I don't want to trade him, but the Cubs should sell high for once if given the opportunity to get someone like Wright. And I disagree that we have a lot of good young starting pitchers in our system. Other than McNutt, it's basically a lot of guys that project to be middle/back-end starters, and you can't compete if you're relying on guys like that.

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Soto is the same age as Wright and is about to get expensive. I'd much rather have Wright over the next 5-6 years considering how catchers tend to break down (and Soto already is a bit injury-prone). I don't want to trade him, but the Cubs should sell high for once if given the opportunity to get someone like Wright. And I disagree that we have a lot of good young starting pitchers in our system. Other than McNutt, it's basically a lot of guys that project to be middle/back-end starters, and you can't compete if you're relying on guys like that.

If their intention is to shed payroll, why would they want somebody who's about to get expensive?

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Soto is the same age as Wright and is about to get expensive. I'd much rather have Wright over the next 5-6 years considering how catchers tend to break down (and Soto already is a bit injury-prone). I don't want to trade him, but the Cubs should sell high for once if given the opportunity to get someone like Wright. And I disagree that we have a lot of good young starting pitchers in our system. Other than McNutt, it's basically a lot of guys that project to be middle/back-end starters, and you can't compete if you're relying on guys like that.

 

If they won't take McNutt/Vitters/Ha and are only interested in Soto/Vitters/Ha, then I might do the deal with Soto - I simply think I'd prefer McNutt over Soto since productive catchers are so scarce.

 

As for the pitching in the minors, it's true that much of our pitching does project to more of a 3-5 starter range, keep in mind we already have Cashner and Garza at the major league level. Both could become frontline starters (many would argue Garza is already there), so the need for a more elite arm may not be there for us.

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Soto is the same age as Wright and is about to get expensive. I'd much rather have Wright over the next 5-6 years considering how catchers tend to break down (and Soto already is a bit injury-prone). I don't want to trade him, but the Cubs should sell high for once if given the opportunity to get someone like Wright. And I disagree that we have a lot of good young starting pitchers in our system. Other than McNutt, it's basically a lot of guys that project to be middle/back-end starters, and you can't compete if you're relying on guys like that.

If their intention is to shed payroll, why would they want somebody who's about to get expensive?

That's why I'm not sure if they'd do it. But he's not going to be as expensive as Wright, and maybe they'd feel better getting a legit All-Star instead of a bunch of prospects.

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The Mets aren't going to trade Wright most likely, unless they're blown away: Brett/McNutt/Vitters? I'm not even sure they'd think that's enough. Brett/McNutt/Cashner?

 

 

I'd possibly do the first one, provided we had a really good draft. I'm a total "no" on the second one. That said, the more I think about it, the more I think the Mets are going to want young, inexpensive MAJOR league talent in return, as it's at least easier to sell to their fans, should they trade the face of their franchise.

 

Castro isn't going anywhere obviously, but I could see ANYONE else being moved in a deal for Wright. It'd be great if Colvin got hot and the Mets actually liked him, he wouldn't be the major piece, but he could fill a spot at least. I'd rather part with him than Brett for sure.

 

My guess at an offer that'd make the Mets consider it would be something like Cashner/Byrd/McNutt/Castillo for Wright.

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Wright's contract...

 

2011 - $14m

2012 - $15m

2013 - $16m team option/$1m buyout

 

I'd give serious thought to trading them Brett Jackson/Trey McNutt/Andrew Cashner for Wright. The only thing that gives me pause is that Wright's defense at 3B fell off a cliff in 2009 and doesn't seem to have recovered since then.

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They will want McNutt.

 

Also heard that the Dodgers only have enough money to make payroll through the end of this month.

Well I guess we'll just have to take Kemp and Kershaw off their hands.

 

Ethier, too.

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I'll take David Wright for Aramis and prospects. GIve them an expiring contract to save money and some decent arms for the future.

 

an expiring contract? this isn't the nba.

 

Wouldn't that potentially have some appeal to a team in serious financial trouble?

 

Thank you. The mets are so bad off right now that they need to start shipping guys out quickly. I'm pretty sure they are 600 million in the hole and no one is going to their games. But yeah the mets would take some back lash for trading wright so they would at least need to feign competitiveness by picking up a deteriorating veteran who they arent on the hook for past this year. all the while picking up pitchers which is the biggest reason why they have sucked for the last 8 years.

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