College Basketball 2011-2012

[Derwood]

PSU's basketball coach is leaving them for Navy? lolwhut

 

really? odd.

 

I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, DeChelis has done a pretty remarkable job considering the roster of poop he's usually had. On the other, he hasn't been able to recruit very well despite getting every possible win out of his teams

[Guest]

Maybe we'll finally be able to beat PSU.

[EhDubya]

This is the textbook definition of "win-win" for both parties. Sure, he bolts a little late in the game. Hopefully though, PSU continues with the respectable coaching hires of the past decade (women's bball, wrestling, lax, soccer, hockey) and gets someone with some energy who can recruit.

[Derwood]

This is the textbook definition of "win-win" for both parties. Sure, he bolts a little late in the game. Hopefully though, PSU continues with the respectable coaching hires of the past decade (women's bball, wrestling, lax, soccer, hockey) and gets someone with some energy who can recruit.

 

but who's out there? At this point, do you let an assistant coach take over for a year and wait to see who's available next season?

[EhDubya]

Well, you have to think Curley has a short list of viable candidates he will contact. All ADs should have some sort of idea, should something like this happen. It all comes down to how serious PSU will be at the negotiation table. Even though PSU basketball is one of the harder jobs out there, there are always head coaches at a mid major looking to move up or an assistant at at Big 6 school that wants to take on a head coaching gig. PSU just needs to convince them they are serious about putting a winner out there, and then prove it with their checkbooks.

 

But it is Curley we are talking about, so yes, I can easily see him naming Kanaskie interim HC or whathaveyou, and blame the lateness of the opening on it. All I know, is you won't see a prediction out of me. ;)

[Sosa21MVP]

Dude is aware that David Robinson is out of eligibility right? I mean...Navy? Really? :-k

[Derwood]

I think the appeal of the PSU job is that you have one of the longest ropes in collegiate sports. PSU simply doesn't fire coaches. DeChellis could have been there another 10 years winning 15 games a season.

[hawkeyecub]

I think the appeal of the PSU job is that you have one of the longest ropes in collegiate sports. PSU simply doesn't fire coaches. DeChellis could have been there another 10 years winning 15 games a season.

 

Then why did everyone assume he would be fired after next year? Supposedly he was told before this past season that he would be fired if he didn't make the NCAA's.

[Derwood]

I think the appeal of the PSU job is that you have one of the longest ropes in collegiate sports. PSU simply doesn't fire coaches. DeChellis could have been there another 10 years winning 15 games a season.

 

Then why did everyone assume he would be fired after next year? Supposedly he was told before this past season that he would be fired if he didn't make the NCAA's.

 

I hadn't heard that

[EhDubya]

Yes, Ed was eventually going to get fired just like the guy he replaced, Jerry Dunn.

 

And like I've pointed out before, PSU has completely changed their hiring practices over the past 5 years. While before, the popular thought was that PSU doesn't fire coaches and even in the event of an open position, it always goes to someone in the "PSU family". That simply isn't true anymore. Starting in 2007:

 

Women's BBall - fired Rene Portland, hired Coquese Washington (from Notre Dame)

Men's LAX - fired Glenn Thiel, hired Jeff Tambourini (from Cornell)

Wrestling - fired Troy Sunderland, hired Cael Sanderson (from Iowa St)

Men's Soccer - Barry Gorman resigned, hired Bob Warming (from Creighton)

Men's Hockey - could have promoted Icers coach Scott Balboni, instead hired Guy Gadkowsky (from Princeton)

 

And soon you will see Penn State replace Baseball coach Robbie Wine... (just a hunch... ;) )

[EhDubya]

And for the record, I'd like to see us go after someone like Chris Collins. Career assistant who probably wants to be a HC someday, and has instant recognition among recruits. Having his dad coaching the only NBA team in state can't hurt either. Immediate presence in a basketball city that Penn State can't seem to get into otherwise.

[SouthSideRyan]

and kelvin sampson.

 

It isn't like the average fan has any say in who they hire anyways. With Sampson I think most IU fans just hoped for the best and made themselves believe he would never break NCAA rules ever again.

 

Not that I'm going to deny we have a large number of douchebags in our own fan base. I can barely stand to read any Indiana basketball message boards.

Illinois scout board takes the cake for dbags. Mostly the mods.

 

And right on cue, a 5 day ban for telling Nova he was being arrogant (following his standard, I'm [expletive] old so I know more than you) and challenging his contention that Bradley was an elite mid-major that just ran into a couple bad coaching hires.

[illiniguy]

and kelvin sampson.

 

It isn't like the average fan has any say in who they hire anyways. With Sampson I think most IU fans just hoped for the best and made themselves believe he would never break NCAA rules ever again.

 

Not that I'm going to deny we have a large number of douchebags in our own fan base. I can barely stand to read any Indiana basketball message boards.

Illinois scout board takes the cake for dbags. Mostly the mods.

 

And right on cue, a 5 day ban for telling Nova he was being arrogant (following his standard, I'm [expletive] old so I know more than you) and challenging his contention that Bradley was an elite mid-major that just ran into a couple bad coaching hires.

Were you around on that board when he banned the guy who proved he actually wasn't in the Navy like he claimed to be?

[SouthSideRyan]

and kelvin sampson.

 

It isn't like the average fan has any say in who they hire anyways. With Sampson I think most IU fans just hoped for the best and made themselves believe he would never break NCAA rules ever again.

 

Not that I'm going to deny we have a large number of douchebags in our own fan base. I can barely stand to read any Indiana basketball message boards.

Illinois scout board takes the cake for dbags. Mostly the mods.

 

And right on cue, a 5 day ban for telling Nova he was being arrogant (following his standard, I'm [expletive] old so I know more than you) and challenging his contention that Bradley was an elite mid-major that just ran into a couple bad coaching hires.

Were you around on that board when he banned the guy who proved he actually wasn't in the Navy like he claimed to be?

 

Hahaha, I missed that one. [expletive], I thought his military way [expletive] was obnoxious before.

[illiniguy]

Hahaha, I missed that one. [expletive], I thought his military way [expletive] was obnoxious before.

I hate his schtick when he starts calling all player Mr. Well Mr. McCamey needs to work harder and Mr. Paul needs to do this. They have first names moran.

[Magnetic Curses]

i thought nova claimed to be a marine.

 

anyways, he and peoriaman are out of control. i've never seen so many normal, harmless threads locked or deleted for such petty [expletive]. pair that with the shameless teasing jacklyman does for the premium board 800 threads a day and i hardly go there anymore. oh yeah, no boneyard anymore either.

 

i know peoriaman posts on this board, so if he's reading this, chill the [expletive] out and bring back the boneyard [expletive].

[Magnetic Curses]

Hahaha, I missed that one. [expletive], I thought his military way [expletive] was obnoxious before.

I hate his schtick when he starts calling all player Mr. Well Mr. McCamey needs to work harder and Mr. Paul needs to do this. They have first names moran.

 

oh, you didn't see his explanation for that? "I don't know them personally, so I can't call them by their first names and calling them just by their last names is impolite."

 

what a pompous ass

[illiniguy]

i thought nova claimed to be a marine.

 

anyways, he and peoriaman are out of control. i've never seen so many normal, harmless threads locked or deleted for such petty [expletive]. pair that with the shameless teasing jacklyman does for the premium board 800 threads a day and i hardly go there anymore. oh yeah, no boneyard anymore either.

 

i know peoriaman posts on this board, so if he's reading this, chill the [expletive] out and bring back the boneyard [expletive].

Whatever he claimed it was proven to be false. Then instead of explaining it he banned the guy and deleted the thread. The guy who did it also posted on the Phog and sadly Nova couldn't delete threads there.

[illiniguy]

Big write up on ESPN.com on how Indiana is in good with the Adams family. Mention how it is shady.

[SouthSideRyan]

Big write up on ESPN.com on how Indiana is in good with the Adams family. Mention how it is shady.

 

That guy with the creepy orange alien avatar is going to be wet.

[illiniguy]

Big write up on ESPN.com on how Indiana is in good with the Adams family. Mention how it is shady.

 

That guy with the creepy orange alien avatar is going to be wet.

He already is. Teamwork Oragne I think?

[Magnetic Curses]

also hanner parea has been taking presents apparently

[Exile on Waveland]

Uh . . . wow. That article was basically a whole lot of nothing but thinly supported innuendo you might find in a conspiracy theory blog. Five months of investigation and the story is that a lot of in-state kids from an in-state AAU program are going to the big in-state school? Shocking. A-Hope may or may not be fishy, and I've wondered about them (neither here nor there, but I'm also extremely uncomfortable with Capobianco's transfer). But, as it stands, that article is worthless and a piece of sham journalism (from a sham journalist: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/01/20/espn-fish-decline-interview-on-steelers-and-hgh-story/).

 

Few things:

 

-IU's verbals for 2013 and 2014 do not play for Indiana Elite and have no ties to A-Hope (they are all Indiana kids).

 

-All of one A-Hope kid has played at IU so far (Tijan Jobe, probably the worst scholarship player ever at IU), and two more have verballed (one is unranked Peter Jurkin, the other being Hanner Perea, who is obviously really well thought of). A-Hope has sent plenty of kids to other schools over this time, including a few IU wanted.

 

-The rest of IU's commitments from 2011-14 are from Indiana (with the exception being Remy Abell, an unranked player from Louisville) and with no ties to A-Hope. Two of them, Patterson and Hollowell, did not play for Indiana Elite prior to their verbals.

 

-Indiana Elite has sent kids, over the past couple years, to Duke, North Carolina, Kentucky, Purdue, Butler, Louisville, etc. I wish IU got all the Indiana Elite kids it wanted. Indiana Elite is definitely IU friendly, but I'm not sure how that's a story. It's both common knowledge and not exactly a rarity in the AAU world (meaning AAU programs are often friendly with one or two coaches/schools). Edit: ESPN was aware of this fact and praised it just a few months ago: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5750525

 

-I suppose the article was mainly about Perea and his "gifts" -- which were given to him by his legal guardian. That's probably suspicious -- a basketball guy becoming legal guardian for a basketball prospect -- and worth addressing, but legal guardians can give gifts.

Edited May 26, 2011 by Exile on Waveland

[Magnetic Curses]

I suppose the article was mainly about Perea and his "gifts" -- which were given to him by his legal guardian. That's probably suspicious -- a basketball guy becoming legal guardian for a basketball prospect -- and worth addressing, but legal guardians can give gifts.

 

come on man

[Exile on Waveland]

I suppose the article was mainly about Perea and his "gifts" -- which were given to him by his legal guardian. That's probably suspicious -- a basketball guy becoming legal guardian for a basketball prospect -- and worth addressing, but legal guardians can give gifts.

 

come on man

 

Come on man, what? A-Hope provides these gifts to all their students/athletes. Is that OK? I don't know (and notice the article doesn't even outright say it's a violation). But, evidently, IU's compliance department and the NCAA were/are aware of it and found no violation. The NCAA, however, has evidently not defined appropriate roles for non-profits at this time. Should non-profits give prospective athletes trips/gifts? Maybe not, but, then again, we're talking about dirt poor kids from Africa* (I'd think you, of all people, would be OK with that). Adams is also Perea's legal guardian, meaning he can give him gifts. Should a person involved in an athletic program like A-Hope become a legal guardian (which obviously raises these questions)? Maybe not, but, again, Adams has done this before and the kids didn't invariably go to IU. As to how A-Hope has connected and benefited IU, it's basically at this point all Perea, who was very close to committing to Baylor until Baylor threatened to deport him if he chose IU.

 

*South America in this instance.