Sheridan - Camp Colvin (A few minor leaguers got swole)

[David]

And other stuff...

 

For anyone who may not know the origin, the name ‘Camp Colvin’ sprang up from Tyler Colvin spending last year’s off-season (Nov. 2009 to Feb. 2010) in AZ working out. His routine included weight training, running, a special weight gaining diet, and even some mountain climbing. BOS was the first media (I use that term very loosely) anywhere to report Colvin’s 20lbs muscle gain (with pics) last January. Colvin wasn’t the only player to work out here in AZ last off-season, but his results, followed by a 20 HR rookie season earned this years off-season group the name Camp Colvin.

 

Speaking of Darwin Barney he really had a beneficial off-season here, adding 18 lbs to put him closer to 190 lbs after playing at about 170 at the end of last season. While watching some batting practice’s I noticed Darwin’s added strength giving him more pop with the bat (although he will likely never be confused with a power hitter). Barney is part of a dedicated group of Cubs organizational players who worked extremely hard this off-season.

 

One of the other players showing big results is DJ LeMahieu the second round pick for the Cubs in 2009. LeMahieu has added 19 lbs this off-season to his 6’4” frame . This is a very good thing because LeMahieu can hit, I bet he’s never hit below .314 for a season in his lifetime, although I haven’t checked his T-Ball records. Cubs Director of Scouting Tim Wilken said a while back that he thought DJ would eventually develop power to go with his natural line-drive swing. So it will be interesting to see if the added weight ups DJ’s power numbers this coming year. DJ has been a middle infielder playing college ball at LSU (2009 College World Series All-Tournament team) and was at second base last year with the Cubs A+ Affiliate in Daytona. LeMahieu is a player to keep your eye on, as his added strength could eventually make him a future candidate to shift to third base.

[Keener98]

Gotta love the Spring Training fluff pieces lol

[imb]

There aren't as many "HE GAINED 20 POUNDS OF PURE SHREDDED MUSCLE" articles for baseball players as for basketball and football players, so that's ... something

[abuck1220]

also, it's impossible to add 20 lbs of muscle in 3 months.

[Guest]

pretty much

[hardcorecubfan]

What vets report early?

[imb]

also, it's impossible to add 20 lbs of muscle in 3 months.

 

you dont understand, he was working out his core

[scarey]

also, it's impossible to add 20 lbs of muscle in 3 months.

 

I'm guessing you know nothing about this and threw this out there? You'd be amazed what an athlete in his prime can do when their job is to eat correctly and work out and actually do it every single day for an extended period of time. Football players transitioning from high school ball to college ball do this all the time.

 

If you're implying that they are taking something to add the muscle, I'd be curious to know what you believe it to be. They are actively screening for steroid use at this point (obviously) and despite the fact that everyone loves to point the finger at HGH, multiple studies have shown that HGH negligible benefits to athletes.

[SouthSideRyan]

Oh good, it's been exactly one year since we last argued about adding 20 pounds of muscle in an offseason.

[wade]

also, it's impossible to add 20 lbs of muscle in 3 months.

 

I'm guessing you know nothing about this and threw this out there? You'd be amazed what an athlete in his prime can do when their job is to eat correctly and work out and actually do it every single day for an extended period of time. Football players transitioning from high school ball to college ball do this all the time.

 

If you're implying that they are taking something to add the muscle, I'd be curious to know what you believe it to be. They are actively screening for steroid use at this point (obviously) and despite the fact that everyone loves to point the finger at HGH, multiple studies have shown that HGH negligible benefits to athletes.

 

It would be harder for an athlete in their prime to gain 20 pounds of muscle- harder than pretty much anyone else in the world.

[scarey]

also, it's impossible to add 20 lbs of muscle in 3 months.

 

I'm guessing you know nothing about this and threw this out there? You'd be amazed what an athlete in his prime can do when their job is to eat correctly and work out and actually do it every single day for an extended period of time. Football players transitioning from high school ball to college ball do this all the time.

 

If you're implying that they are taking something to add the muscle, I'd be curious to know what you believe it to be. They are actively screening for steroid use at this point (obviously) and despite the fact that everyone loves to point the finger at HGH, multiple studies have shown that HGH negligible benefits to athletes.

 

It would be harder for an athlete in their prime to gain 20 pounds of muscle- harder than pretty much anyone else in the world.

 

If they've peaked already than yes. My guess is 6'4 DJ LeMahieu never really pushed himself too much on gaining weight if he was only ever 180 lbs. My point was more of the fact that a 23 year old male can take on a brutal weight lifting regimen and potentially gain 19 lbs of muscle over the course of 4 or 5 months. At least more capably than a 48 year old female.

[tfarks]

I always kind of assumed that when a writer says a player added 20 pounds of muscle they're just seperating it from a guy who put on 20 pounds. Which could easily be 20 pounds of fat. 20 lbs of muscle = bigger and stronger.

 

I think its quite simple to gain some extra weight thats not exactly muscle when you're on a weight gaining regimen. Kind of like how a 250 lb NFL linebacker isn't all muscle. When Arnold Schwarzenegger was winning every Mr Olympia title he weighed 240 at 6'2", and thats about as close as possible to being all muscle.

[Soul]

My guess is that the writer is assuming everyone knows that the exact medical detail on how much was muscle and how much wasn't isn't going to be included. It's a decent guess, pictures are provided.

 

And that seems like a reasonable assumption to me. He's been working out, he's gained some weight, here are some pictures.

[wade]

also, it's impossible to add 20 lbs of muscle in 3 months.

 

I'm guessing you know nothing about this and threw this out there? You'd be amazed what an athlete in his prime can do when their job is to eat correctly and work out and actually do it every single day for an extended period of time. Football players transitioning from high school ball to college ball do this all the time.

 

If you're implying that they are taking something to add the muscle, I'd be curious to know what you believe it to be. They are actively screening for steroid use at this point (obviously) and despite the fact that everyone loves to point the finger at HGH, multiple studies have shown that HGH negligible benefits to athletes.

 

It would be harder for an athlete in their prime to gain 20 pounds of muscle- harder than pretty much anyone else in the world.

 

If they've peaked already than yes. My guess is 6'4 DJ LeMahieu never really pushed himself too much on gaining weight if he was only ever 180 lbs. My point was more of the fact that a 23 year old male can take on a brutal weight lifting regimen and potentially gain 19 lbs of muscle over the course of 4 or 5 months. At least more capably than a 48 year old female.

 

Yes, he'd typically be more capable of adding muscle than an older female, but he still wouldn't be able to add 19 pounds of muscle in 4-5 months. A guy could probably add that much in a year, provided they'd never lifted weights before, or only did so poorly.

 

To clarify my position, please remember I'm talking about muscle gain. People can certainly gain body weight at a much faster clip than they gain muscle weight.

 

20 pounds of muscle in three months is pretty much impossible without the benefit of puberty, or maybe steroids.

[scarey]

also, it's impossible to add 20 lbs of muscle in 3 months.

 

I'm guessing you know nothing about this and threw this out there? You'd be amazed what an athlete in his prime can do when their job is to eat correctly and work out and actually do it every single day for an extended period of time. Football players transitioning from high school ball to college ball do this all the time.

 

If you're implying that they are taking something to add the muscle, I'd be curious to know what you believe it to be. They are actively screening for steroid use at this point (obviously) and despite the fact that everyone loves to point the finger at HGH, multiple studies have shown that HGH negligible benefits to athletes.

 

It would be harder for an athlete in their prime to gain 20 pounds of muscle- harder than pretty much anyone else in the world.

 

If they've peaked already than yes. My guess is 6'4 DJ LeMahieu never really pushed himself too much on gaining weight if he was only ever 180 lbs. My point was more of the fact that a 23 year old male can take on a brutal weight lifting regimen and potentially gain 19 lbs of muscle over the course of 4 or 5 months. At least more capably than a 48 year old female.

 

Yes, he'd typically be more capable of adding muscle than an older female, but he still wouldn't be able to add 19 pounds of muscle in 4-5 months. A guy could probably add that much in a year, provided they'd never lifted weights before, or only did so poorly.

 

To clarify my position, please remember I'm talking about muscle gain. People can certainly gain body weight at a much faster clip than they gain muscle weight.

 

20 pounds of muscle in three months is pretty much impossible without the benefit of puberty, or maybe steroids.

 

I think Soul provided insight on to the weight being reported. I still contend that it is possible to put on 20 lbs of solid muscle in a 5 month period of time if you're hell bent on doing it, even if that's not exactly the case here. I read a lot of studies in college about increased weight gain, but that was mostly in older populations. Admittedly, I've never read any research on extreme muscle gain like this. Just based on the results I've seen in other studies though, I certainly think it's a legitimate possibility.

[Guest]

also, it's impossible to add 20 lbs of muscle in 3 months.

 

I'm guessing you know nothing about this and threw this out there? You'd be amazed what an athlete in his prime can do when their job is to eat correctly and work out and actually do it every single day for an extended period of time. Football players transitioning from high school ball to college ball do this all the time.

 

If you're implying that they are taking something to add the muscle, I'd be curious to know what you believe it to be. They are actively screening for steroid use at this point (obviously) and despite the fact that everyone loves to point the finger at HGH, multiple studies have shown that HGH negligible benefits to athletes.

 

It would be harder for an athlete in their prime to gain 20 pounds of muscle- harder than pretty much anyone else in the world.

 

If they've peaked already than yes. My guess is 6'4 DJ LeMahieu never really pushed himself too much on gaining weight if he was only ever 180 lbs. My point was more of the fact that a 23 year old male can take on a brutal weight lifting regimen and potentially gain 19 lbs of muscle over the course of 4 or 5 months. At least more capably than a 48 year old female.

 

IF DJ LeMahieu wasn't pushing himself to gain muscle the past 3 offseasons, then he probably doesn't give a [expletive] about baseball.

[abuck1220]

I still contend that it is possible to put on 20 lbs of solid muscle in a 5 month period of time if you're hell bent on doing it.

 

it's not.

[scarey]

I still contend that it is possible to put on 20 lbs of solid muscle in a 5 month period of time if you're hell bent on doing it.

 

it's not.

 

It is.

 

I guess I'm just wondering what everyone thinks is going on here? 11 lbs of muscle and 8 lbs of fat? Rampant steroid use? HGH? If they're not gaining 19 lbs of muscle (which I actually do think that only part of that gain is lean body mass), what is the theory for the weight gain?

Edited February 14, 2011 by scarey

[abuck1220]

the most weight (not muscle) arnold gained in a year was 25 pounds. and he was a professional bodybuilder with incredible, incredible, mind-blowing genetics and a bunch of steroids.

[Guest]

I bet if you checked his weight at ST last year and this year that the 20 pounds would be about the delta. In other words, I'm guessing this is more a 12 month thing as opposed to a 3 month thing. The last three months have probably been the most intense part, so it is getting the credit for the entire gain.

 

I just believe the Cubs have gotten much more serious about S&C for their prospects recently.

[abuck1220]

i believe that he gained 20 lbs. he just didn't gain 20 lbs of muscle.

[Guest]

the most weight (not muscle) arnold gained in a year was 25 pounds. and he was a professional bodybuilder with incredible, incredible, mind-blowing genetics and a bunch of steroids.

Was Arnold starting from 6'4", 180 pounds?

 

Is it hard to believe that someone with that frame that goes from doing primarily aerobic conditioning to a serious weight regimen could gain 20 lbs to get to 200 lbs in a year? I don't buy the 20 lbs/3 months thing, but I could easily see it over a 12 month span from last spring to this spring.

[scarey]

I bet if you checked his weight at ST last year and this year that the 20 pounds would be about the delta. In other words, I'm guessing this is more a 12 month thing as opposed to a 3 month thing. The last three months have probably been the most intense part, so it is getting the credit for the entire gain.

 

I just believe the Cubs have gotten much more serious about S&C for their prospects recently.

That makes a lot of sense. I think it's probably a combination of a lot of things. I just feel like some are jumping to the performance enhancing drug conclusion. Maybe my feeling is wrong.

 

I don't think it's completely silly to think these guys may be taking something. It's a consequence of the years of rampant performance enhancing substances in MLB. I just tend to believe that it's a lot harder to get away with it now than some people may think.

[scarey]

i believe that he gained 20 lbs. he just didn't gain 20 lbs of muscle.

 

Interestingly enough, a lot of the stories you hear about so-and-so gaining 20 lbs in 2 months often are true. It's just a shame that a large majority of that weight is a result of water retention.

[abuck1220]

what the hell are you even talking about?

 

he may have gained 20 lbs in a year. it wasn't all muscle. nobody's saying anything about PEDs.