Pujols signs with Angels pg 151

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I would.

 

You'd [expletive] a plugged in toaster with a tin foil condom.

 

Why would you need a condom? And I don't think tin foil would be very effective at preventing the exchange of fluid...lol.

[TruffleShuffle]

I would.

 

You'd [expletive] a plugged in toaster with a tin foil condom.

 

:rotfl:

[imb]

So you work for this company that will only pay you about 2/3 of what you are worth. You've been there a long time. A company down the street sees how good you are at what you do and will pay you more than your long time company sight unseen.

 

not a bad analogy, but this isn't a company down the street, it's like 2000 miles away. it's a big life change so you can understand why she/they would be stressed about it, and disappointed that the cards didn't step up with a more market-competitive offer to keep him in town.

 

of course davearm throws around the term "greedy" because it's huge money, but if you're living in st louis and making 80 grand a year and some company in california offers you 125k, and you go for it, people aren't going to call you greedy. this may be hard to believe, but people like to be paid a fair wage given what they bring to their employer, regardless of whether that be 50 grand or 50 million.

 

people also would rather live in california rather than st. louis

[TruffleShuffle]

So you work for this company that will only pay you about 2/3 of what you are worth. You've been there a long time. A company down the street sees how good you are at what you do and will pay you more than your long time company sight unseen.

 

not a bad analogy, but this isn't a company down the street, it's like 2000 miles away. it's a big life change so you can understand why she/they would be stressed about it, and disappointed that the cards didn't step up with a more market-competitive offer to keep him in town.

 

of course davearm throws around the term "greedy" because it's huge money, but if you're living in st louis and making 80 grand a year and some company in california offers you 125k, and you go for it, people aren't going to call you greedy. this may be hard to believe, but people like to be paid a fair wage given what they bring to their employer, regardless of whether that be 50 grand or 50 million.

 

people also would rather live in california rather than st. louis

 

i surprised they even wanted to stay in st louis. if i was a pro athlete and had a choice to make millions of dollars pretty much anywhere i wanted, i sure as hell wouldn't staying in [expletive] st louis.

[Elwood]

I would.

 

You'd [expletive] a plugged in toaster with a tin foil condom.

 

Why would you need a condom? And I don't think tin foil would be very effective at preventing the exchange of fluid...lol.

 

Agreed. Gotta go with Ziplock.

[Guest]

If what she says about the offers the Cards made is true, then she only had to add one word to her quote "realistic". If the cards were really offering a five year deal against a 10 year deal, then they truly did not make a realistic effort to retain Pujols.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I would.

 

You'd [expletive] a plugged in toaster with a tin foil condom.

 

Only the two-slot. The four-slotters are disgusting.

[davearm2]

If what she says about the offers the Cards made is true, then she only had to add one word to her quote "realistic". If the cards were really offering a five year deal against a 10 year deal, then they truly did not make a realistic effort to retain Pujols.

Let's see a show of hands of everyone that believes the Cards' best offer to Pujols was a 5 year deal.

[MWV]

I'd honestly rather discuss toaster [expletive].

[Sammy Sofa]

So your problem is actually over the semantics of what was said. If she had said something like "Albert felt in the end that he wanted the Angels' offer more than the Cardinals'" instead of "we had no choice" you wouldn't have an issue? Because Mrs. Pujols didn't make it explicitly clear that they weren't literally without a choice you find what she said "laughable" and a "sob story?"

My problem is with the tone of Mrs. Pujols' comments. She made it abundantly clear that they really wanted to stay, had no intentions to leave, and that moving is very difficult for a number of reasons.

 

That obviously begs the question, well then why didn't you stay, if that's what you wanted?

 

Her implication is, the reason they didn't stay is because Cardinals somehow took that option away from them. That I find laughable.

 

If she had said something like "Albert felt in the end that he wanted the Angels' offer more than the Cardinals'", then I wouldn't have an issue, since that's what really happened.

 

WHOOSH.

 

They wanted to stay, but Pujols also wanted to get paid. The Cardinals apparently weren't willing to pay up while another team was, so they couldn't stay.

 

The only way your argument makes any sense is if you honestly think she's talking like money didn't matter to them. She isn't, and she makes it very clear in the interview that money was the main factor. From the money standpoint, no, St. Louis took that option away from them. The decision to stay or leave St. Louis didn't occur in a vacuum where the decision was only based on the desire to stay or leave.

 

It really is astounding how black and white things have to be with you.

[Clem Fandango]

If what she says about the offers the Cards made is true, then she only had to add one word to her quote "realistic". If the cards were really offering a five year deal against a 10 year deal, then they truly did not make a realistic effort to retain Pujols.

 

Yeah, the way she phrases it sounds like this 10 year offer the Cardinals made was never actually real, saying stuff like what we heard in the news was lies?

 

If the Cardinals never offered a 10 year deal, I get it, but there were news reports abound that said that wasn't the case. Then again ,she said if they did offer what the rumored amount was they would've stayed. Who knows. What's done is done, no looking back now.

[davearm2]

So your problem is actually over the semantics of what was said. If she had said something like "Albert felt in the end that he wanted the Angels' offer more than the Cardinals'" instead of "we had no choice" you wouldn't have an issue? Because Mrs. Pujols didn't make it explicitly clear that they weren't literally without a choice you find what she said "laughable" and a "sob story?"

My problem is with the tone of Mrs. Pujols' comments. She made it abundantly clear that they really wanted to stay, had no intentions to leave, and that moving is very difficult for a number of reasons.

 

That obviously begs the question, well then why didn't you stay, if that's what you wanted?

 

Her implication is, the reason they didn't stay is because Cardinals somehow took that option away from them. That I find laughable.

 

If she had said something like "Albert felt in the end that he wanted the Angels' offer more than the Cardinals'", then I wouldn't have an issue, since that's what really happened.

They wanted to stay, but Pujols also wanted to get paid.

 

The only way your argument makes any sense is if you honestly think she's talking like money didn't matter to them. She isn't, and she makes it very clear in the interview that money was the main factor. From the money standpoint, no, St. Louis took that option away from them. The decision to stay or leave St. Louis didn't occur in a vacuum where the decision was only based on the desire to stay or leave.

Ah, now we're finally getting somewhere.

 

They wanted to stay, AND they wanted to get paid.

 

In the end, they wanted to get paid MORE than they wanted to stay.

 

Fine, no problem whatsoever.

 

Just don't be whining about how stressful and burdensome it is that you couldn't have your cake and eat it too.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

This might be the dumbest argument you've started/participated in to date.

[Sammy Sofa]

He's like a really old, clunky 50's robot that has to be fed precise commands on punch cards.

[biittner77]

He's like a really old, clunky 50's robot that has to be fed precise commands on punch cards.

 

Is that similar to the HCCF malfunctioning robot? Because that always makes me smile.

[Sammy Sofa]

He's like a really old, clunky 50's robot that has to be fed precise commands on punch cards.

 

Is that similar to the HCCF malfunctioning robot? Because that always makes me smile.

 

Oh, he wasn't malfunctioning.

[TruffleShuffle]

This might be the dumbest argument you've started/participated in to date.

 

 

I'm pretty sure the "all players should know be good at bunting bc it sends a good message to the team" was worse than this.

[javy knows my name]

This might be the dumbest argument you've started/participated in to date.

 

 

I'm pretty sure the "all players should know be good at bunting bc it sends a good message to the team" was worse than this.

 

Followed closely by "don't dismiss this book that claims that birds getting hit by balls disproves sabermetrics"

[Pushfrog98]

It is obvious why Albert left St. Louis. He is afraid of Nyger Morgan.

[Sammy Sofa]

This might be the dumbest argument you've started/participated in to date.

 

 

I'm pretty sure the "all players should know be good at bunting bc it sends a good message to the team" was worse than this.

 

Followed closely by "don't dismiss this book that claims that birds getting hit by balls disproves sabermetrics"

 

Look how far he's come since then.

[Careless]

2012: $12 million;

2013: $16 million

2014: $23 million;

2015: $24 million

2016: $25 million;

2017: $26 million

2018: $27 million;

2019: $28 million

2020: $29 million;

2021: $30 million

$3 million for 3000 hits, $7 for the HR record.

[XZero771679666304]

2012: $12 million;

2013: $16 million

2014: $23 million;

2015: $24 million

2016: $25 million;

2017: $26 million

2018: $27 million;

2019: $28 million

2020: $29 million;

2021: $30 million

$3 million for 3000 hits, $7 for the HR record.

 

Any info on the personal services contract?

[Rob]

2012: $12 million;

2013: $16 million

2014: $23 million;

2015: $24 million

2016: $25 million;

2017: $26 million

2018: $27 million;

2019: $28 million

2020: $29 million;

2021: $30 million

$3 million for 3000 hits, $7 for the HR record.

 

Any info on the personal services contract?

 

Heard it was $1 mil per for 10 years.

[Guest]

I think he should have held out for more for breaking the home run record.

[Old Style]

I think he should have held out for more for breaking the home run record.

Greedy SOB. How much is enough? $7.50? $8.00?