Pujols signs with Angels pg 151

[MSG T]

I would be very hesitant to offer Pujols a 10 year contract. I've seen video of Willie Mays later years and they weren't pretty.

 

 

My dad tells how I asked him who that was playing in the '73 Series, I was 4-5 at the time. He told me Willie Mays. I said "he sucks".

[jersey cubs fan]

I would be very hesitant to offer Pujols a 10 year contract. I've seen video of Willie Mays later years and they weren't pretty.

 

We've got HD now so any video of Pujols should hold up really well over time.

 

I really wish the Jordan era had happened about 10 years later. Or that TV had been 10-15 years ahead of its time.

 

I think the recent improvements in HD and television in general do a hell of a lot more for hockey, football and baseball than they do for basketball. What do you really think it adds to NBA?

[Clem Fandango]

Kids say the darndest things... although in 1973 he did in fact suck

[Guest]

I would be very hesitant to offer Pujols a 10 year contract. I've seen video of Willie Mays later years and they weren't pretty.

 

We've got HD now so any video of Pujols should hold up really well over time.

 

I really wish the Jordan era had happened about 10 years later. Or that TV had been 10-15 years ahead of its time.

 

I think the recent improvements in HD and television in general do a hell of a lot more for hockey, football and baseball than they do for basketball. What do you really think it adds to NBA?

 

What does it really do for baseball even? It all just looks way better.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Jon Paul Morosi of FOXSports.com was told by a Cardinals' source that a resolution in regard to Albert Pujols is expected Wednesday.

[MSG T]

Kids say the darndest things... although in 1973 he did in fact suck

 

 

Unfortunately I caught the tail end of a few of the greats. They weren't so great when I saw them. Same goes for Aaron, and (I'm sorry) the White Sox version of Santo. There were some others I can't think of at the moment.

[buckeye27]

Pujols also helped bring 2 titles to STL. Lebron bolted right when the Cavs were finally making some deep playoff runs, without ever having gotten a title.

 

Also, the NBA is much, much more reliant on one or two superstars.

 

STL w/out albert is still competitive. CLE w/out lebron, we all know where that went.

[jersey cubs fan]

What does it really do for baseball even? It all just looks way better.

 

I think it does less than with the other two, but you've got a giant field, usually with grass and outdoors, and all sorts of bang bang plays that can be seen so much clearer with a quality HD broadcast. Basketball's relatively small controlled environment doesn't really seem to benefit to the same extent.

[MSG T]

What does it really do for baseball even? It all just looks way better.

 

I think it does less than with the other two, but you've got a giant field, usually with grass and outdoors, and all sorts of bang bang plays that can be seen so much clearer with a quality HD broadcast. Basketball's relatively small controlled environment doesn't really seem to benefit to the same extent.

 

 

For me, the best part is seeing those bang bang plays, especially in slow motion. I remember the days when, at times, slow motion made it harder to tell which way the call should go because it was so blurry. That goes along with all of the traps, foul/fair calls, did the ball hit above or below the line etc. With HD, there's not much question left anymore.

[Guest]

What does it really do for baseball even? It all just looks way better.

 

I think it does less than with the other two, but you've got a giant field, usually with grass and outdoors, and all sorts of bang bang plays that can be seen so much clearer with a quality HD broadcast. Basketball's relatively small controlled environment doesn't really seem to benefit to the same extent.

 

 

For me, the best part is seeing those bang bang plays, especially in slow motion. I remember the days when, at times, slow motion made it harder to tell which way the call should go because it was so blurry. That goes along with all of the traps, foul/fair calls, did the ball hit above or below the line etc. With HD, there's not much question left anymore.

 

Well yea...that's all about the picture quality/resolution and less about the aspect ratio. Which is why I wish we could have all the old sports highlights at that type of resolution.

[jersey cubs fan]

What does it really do for baseball even? It all just looks way better.

 

I think it does less than with the other two, but you've got a giant field, usually with grass and outdoors, and all sorts of bang bang plays that can be seen so much clearer with a quality HD broadcast. Basketball's relatively small controlled environment doesn't really seem to benefit to the same extent.

 

 

For me, the best part is seeing those bang bang plays, especially in slow motion. I remember the days when, at times, slow motion made it harder to tell which way the call should go because it was so blurry. That goes along with all of the traps, foul/fair calls, did the ball hit above or below the line etc. With HD, there's not much question left anymore.

 

Well yea...that's all about the picture quality/resolution and less about the aspect ratio. Which is why I wish we could have all the old sports highlights at that type of resolution.

 

What's important in all of this is that in 10 years I would be ecstatic to look back at all the high quality HD video of Pujols in a Cubs uniform, regardless of how that 10th year played out.

[Banedon]

Jon_Heyman: #marlins definitely will talk to prince if they don't get albert. Buehrle, wilson (angels the leader there) also options

 

Earlier though, Rosenthal tweeted they'll go after a starter rather than Fielder.

[Guest]

I'm sure Boras is praying Albert stays so that he can use the Marlins, whether they're interested or not.

[Rob]

Rob, relating to that fangraphs chart, is "normal player" defined as everyone else in the majors?

 

That's the way I read it.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Andy Martino of the New York Daily News reports that Albert Pujols is likely to return to the Cardinals.

Pujols is reportedly mulling offers from the Cardinals and Marlins worth around $200 million over 10 years. All things being equal, we expect he'll return to St. Louis. Martino hears that the Marlins are now shifting their attention to landing Prince Fielder while various other reports suggest that they could be in the mix for either Mark Buehrle or C.J. Wilson.

[Rob]

Rob, relating to that fangraphs chart, is "normal player" defined as everyone else in the majors?

 

The author's conclusion was that he proved it was "clear that [Fielder's] best days are behind him" (emphasis supplied). Not that his analysis showed that, historically, players shaped similar to Fielder generally aged poorly; but that comparisions to other players proved, clearly, that Fielder's immediate decline was already written. Such hubris, such complete misunderstanding of what proof entails, should alone call into question the entirety of his analysis.

 

Of course, the writer who wrote the bulk of the article was not the same as the one who did the research on how heavier players age.

[Guest]

Andy Martino of the New York Daily News reports that Albert Pujols is likely to return to the Cardinals.

Pujols is reportedly mulling offers from the Cardinals and Marlins worth around $200 million over 10 years. All things being equal, we expect he'll return to St. Louis. Martino hears that the Marlins are now shifting their attention to landing Prince Fielder while various other reports suggest that they could be in the mix for either Mark Buehrle or C.J. Wilson.

 

All things being equal he'd probably go to St. Louis? Groundbreaking report.

[Guest]

What does it really do for baseball even? It all just looks way better.

 

I think it does less than with the other two, but you've got a giant field, usually with grass and outdoors, and all sorts of bang bang plays that can be seen so much clearer with a quality HD broadcast. Basketball's relatively small controlled environment doesn't really seem to benefit to the same extent.

 

 

For me, the best part is seeing those bang bang plays, especially in slow motion. I remember the days when, at times, slow motion made it harder to tell which way the call should go because it was so blurry. That goes along with all of the traps, foul/fair calls, did the ball hit above or below the line etc. With HD, there's not much question left anymore.

 

Well yea...that's all about the picture quality/resolution and less about the aspect ratio. Which is why I wish we could have all the old sports highlights at that type of resolution.

 

What's important in all of this is that in 10 years I would be ecstatic to look back at all the high quality HD video of Pujols in a Cubs uniform, regardless of how that 10th year played out.

The 7th, 8th, and 9th years won't look so good either.

[Guest]

 

 

The 7th, 8th, and 9th years won't look so good either.

 

If they're as good as Mays's later years that you said didn't look good, they'll be plenty good.

[MSG T]

 

 

The 7th, 8th, and 9th years won't look so good either.

 

If they're as good as Mays's later years that you said didn't look good, they'll be plenty good.

 

 

His WAR totals for his last four years.

 

1970 (age 39) - 5.4

1971 (age 40) - 6.4

1972 (age 41) - 2.2

1973 (age 42) - 0.0

 

I'd take that in exchange for the elite first 6 years at $25 mil per +/-.

[RynoRules]

 

 

The 7th, 8th, and 9th years won't look so good either.

 

If they're as good as Mays's later years that you said didn't look good, they'll be plenty good.

 

 

His WAR totals for his last four years.

 

1970 (age 39) - 5.4

1971 (age 40) - 6.4

1972 (age 41) - 2.2

1973 (age 42) - 0.0

 

I'd take that in exchange for the elite first 6 years at $25 mil per +/-.

 

Putting up a 6.4 WAR as a 40-yr old OF'er is amazing.

[Banedon]

jcrasnick: Lots of buzz in Dallas that the Pujols decision is shifting strongly in the #Cardinals direction

[mookie]

Come on mystery team!!!

[Banedon]

Jon_Heyman: #marlins already in pursuit of prince. Signs indicate cards likely to get pujols [

[Exile on Waveland]

Rob, relating to that fangraphs chart, is "normal player" defined as everyone else in the majors?

 

The author's conclusion was that he proved it was "clear that [Fielder's] best days are behind him" (emphasis supplied). Not that his analysis showed that, historically, players shaped similar to Fielder generally aged poorly; but that comparisions to other players proved, clearly, that Fielder's immediate decline was already written. Such hubris, such complete misunderstanding of what proof entails, should alone call into question the entirety of his analysis.

 

Of course, the writer who wrote the bulk of the article was not the same as the one who did the research on how heavier players age.

 

True, he did not do the research for the chart; he did the graphs and all the writing you quoted. Regardless, the link between the charted players and Fielder seems so thinly related to warrant little persuasive merit.