Pujols signs with Angels pg 151

[XZero771679666304]

A 10 year contract for almost any player is insane.

 

I would have given 25-year old Albert 10 years. You might have been able to sell me on 10 years for Griffey when he was in his early 20s (not in hindsight, obviously). Beyond that, I'm not sure I can think of any other players in my memory I would feel good about giving a decade long contract to. Maybe young ARod.

[bukie]

A 10 year contract for almost any player is insane.

 

I would have given 25-year old Albert 10 years. You might have been able to sell me on 10 years for Griffey when he was in his early 20s (not in hindsight, obviously). Beyond that, I'm not sure I can think of any other players in my memory I would feel good about giving a decade long contract to. Maybe young ARod.

How about a 27 year old Ryan Braun?

[Hollandsworths mug]

Ken_Rosenthal 8 minutes ago

Confirmed:#Marlins have made 10-year offer to Pujols. Source says two sides trying to work through no-trade issue. MORE # MLB

[apete6]

ARod was worth 64.8 WAR (~$244.3MM in value according to fangraphs--2001 is an estimate due to there not being value assigned that year, but it's pretty close) in the 10 years starting with his signing in Texas (10 years, $250MM). That's about all you can ask for.

[Brian]

Albert if we give you a NTC, how are we going to dismantle this team in 3 years?

[XZero771679666304]

A 10 year contract for almost any player is insane.

 

I would have given 25-year old Albert 10 years. You might have been able to sell me on 10 years for Griffey when he was in his early 20s (not in hindsight, obviously). Beyond that, I'm not sure I can think of any other players in my memory I would feel good about giving a decade long contract to. Maybe young ARod.

How about a 27 year old Ryan Braun?

 

No. Braun has never really approached Pujols level, and Griffey and Rodriguez were both better at younger ages and played defense first positions.

 

Braun is really good, but no.

[apete6]

ARod was worth 64.8 WAR (~$244.3MM in value according to fangraphs--2001 is an estimate due to there not being value assigned that year, but it's pretty close) in the 10 years starting with his signing in Texas (10 years, $250MM). That's about all you can ask for.

 

Bonds was worth 88.2 WAR in his first 10 years with the Giants (although that does include 25.4 for 2001 and 2002, the last of those 10 years, when he was obviously juicing).

[bukie]

A 10 year contract for almost any player is insane.

 

I would have given 25-year old Albert 10 years. You might have been able to sell me on 10 years for Griffey when he was in his early 20s (not in hindsight, obviously). Beyond that, I'm not sure I can think of any other players in my memory I would feel good about giving a decade long contract to. Maybe young ARod.

How about a 27 year old Ryan Braun?

 

No. Braun has never really approached Pujols level, and Griffey and Rodriguez were both better at younger ages and played defense first positions.

 

Braun is really good, but no.

I mean, Braun actually has a 10-year contract.

[XZero771679666304]

Albert stands to lose more than Prince if he takes a shorter contract.

 

As far as working through the NTC issue, giving him a limited NTC seems the obvious answer. Only certain teams would figure to be able to afford to take Albert on, and of those teams you'd figure Pujols would be willing to go to most or all of them. Let him make a list of teams he'd be willing to accept a trade to.

 

Give him a limited NTC and an opt out clause.

[Banedon]

Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Cubs' interest in Fielder is on shorter deal, not eight or nine years. Would pay high dollars in exchange for shorter term. #MLB

[inari]

Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Cubs' interest in Fielder is on shorter deal, not eight or nine years. Would pay high dollars in exchange for shorter term. #MLB

 

Me likey.

[Hollandsworths mug]

Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Cubs' interest in Fielder is on shorter deal, not eight or nine years. Would pay high dollars in exchange for shorter term. #MLB

 

Prince has to love this if true.

[XZero771679666304]

A 10 year contract for almost any player is insane.

 

I would have given 25-year old Albert 10 years. You might have been able to sell me on 10 years for Griffey when he was in his early 20s (not in hindsight, obviously). Beyond that, I'm not sure I can think of any other players in my memory I would feel good about giving a decade long contract to. Maybe young ARod.

How about a 27 year old Ryan Braun?

 

No. Braun has never really approached Pujols level, and Griffey and Rodriguez were both better at younger ages and played defense first positions.

 

Braun is really good, but no.

I mean, Braun actually has a 10-year contract.

 

I know they gave him one, but I wouldn't have.

[BeerHere]

Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Cubs' interest in Fielder is on shorter deal, not eight or nine years. Would pay high dollars in exchange for shorter term. #MLB

That is perfect.

[XZero771679666304]

Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Cubs' interest in Fielder is on shorter deal, not eight or nine years. Would pay high dollars in exchange for shorter term. #MLB

 

Me likey.

 

I don't see Albert going for it. If he declines further, he could be SOL after a 4-5 year deal was up.

 

OTOH, It could free him up to retire a Card after making a ton of money, if he were interested in such a thing.

 

EDIT: Yeah, I misread that as Pujols.

Edited December 6, 2011 by XZero77

[Banedon]

jonmorosi: Source with knowledge of Pujols talks: "Very fluid situation that could go either way." #STLCards #Marlins #Drama @MLBONFOX [vi

[Banedon]

Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Cubs' interest in Fielder is on shorter deal, not eight or nine years. Would pay high dollars in exchange for shorter term. #MLB

 

Me likey.

 

I don't see Albert going for it. If he declines further, he could be SOL after a 4-5 year deal was up.

 

OTOH, It could free him up to retire a Card after making a ton of money, if he were interested in such a thing.

 

Uh...not talking about Albert.

[XZero771679666304]

Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Cubs' interest in Fielder is on shorter deal, not eight or nine years. Would pay high dollars in exchange for shorter term. #MLB

 

Me likey.

 

I don't see Albert going for it. If he declines further, he could be SOL after a 4-5 year deal was up.

 

OTOH, It could free him up to retire a Card after making a ton of money, if he were interested in such a thing.

 

Uh...not talking about Albert.

 

Yeah, I misread it. Albert on the brain and such.

[bukie]

Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Cubs' interest in Fielder is on shorter deal, not eight or nine years. Would pay high dollars in exchange for shorter term. #MLB

 

Me likey.

 

I don't see Albert going for it. If he declines further, he could be SOL after a 4-5 year deal was up.

 

OTOH, It could free him up to retire a Card after making a ton of money, if he were interested in such a thing.

 

Uh...not talking about Albert.

Helluva bowler, that Albert Fielder.

[Banedon]

Buster_ESPN: Source: there is optimism that marlins and pujols's agent will work through hurdle regarding no-trade clause. If so, all bets off

[Banedon]

http://insidesportswithdavidv.blogspot.com/2011/12/albert-pujols-to-join-miami-marlins.html

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Helluva bowler, that Albert Fielder.

 

Three first-class appearances nets you a wikipedia article? Weak.

[MWV]

If Pujols signs with Miami, how does the board feel about Gaby Sanchez? I'd prefer Fielder (by a wide margin), but Sanchez is intriguing. Looking at his MLB numbers, he's posted decent BB and K rates as a full-time player. His BAbip seems low considering his LD and IP percentages.

[Prizefight]

I still can't see him ending up anywhere other than StL.

[Butterscup1679666578]

If Pujols signs with Miami, how does the board feel about Gaby Sanchez? I'd prefer Fielder (by a wide margin), but Sanchez is intriguing. Looking at his MLB numbers, he's posted decent BB and K rates as a full-time player. His BAbip seems low considering his LD and IP percentages.

 

look back a few pages, he was discussed.